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Want a Security Pro? Get Politically Incorrect and Learn Geek Culture

coondoggie writes "While complaints can be heard far and wide that it's hard to find the right IT security experts to defend the nation's cyberspace, the real problem in hiring security professionals is the roadblocks put up by lawyers and human resources personnel and a complete lack of understanding of geek culture, says security consultant Winn Schwartau. Take Janet Napolitano, U.S. secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, who has said the country can't find the right people for network defense. The real problem is a misunderstanding of computer geeks, their personalities, habits and their backgrounds, said Schwartau today during his talk at the Hacker Halted information security conference."

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  1. Right by Antipater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the Catholic Church could prop up its declining clergy membership by recruiting straight from the local sex offender registry.

    Seriously, what the fuck? "Legal niceties" is another term for these rules are in place because we don't want to get fucked over again by someone we trusted. They're there for a reason, and actively circumventing them to search for applicants is inviting yourself to get burned. Maybe some of them could be relaxed, sure, like the one-time drug offense bit for security clearances. But just saying "they're narrowing our pool of applicants!"...Shit, Sherlock, that's why they exist!

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  2. Re:Marijuana/Drug Laws by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I haven't met a too many good hackers who haven't, at least at one time, engaged in some drug use -- whether it be smoking weed (usually), tripping on mushrooms/acid, or cocaine etc..it seems to permeate the culture quite a bit.

    Now, is that because good hackers tend to be drug users--or is it because *you* are a drug user and thus a larger percentage of the people you meet are drug users?

  3. Re:I'm sure geeks by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't want a "good hacker" whose tendencies toward "counter-culture" are a hard-wired reflex. I want a competent engineer who understands what he's working with and knows how to be effective: sometimes by kissing ass, more often than not by saying "fuck off and let me work" with the right level of polish (sometimes none). If your idea of the best of the pool is someone who hacks and tinkers without being able to buckle down to do some real engineering (which means not just being able to pull off epic shit, but doing it in such a way that it's clear that it accomplishes the objective and isn't only documented between the guy's ears), you're asking for movie hackers, not for what you need.

  4. Draft people into Congress ... by perpenso · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the House of Representatives we should probably draft them, like the Army used to. Walk out to the mail box, open the letter from the gov't, ... damn I have to report to Congress for two years. That way we get a broader sampling of perspectives and experiences. The type of people we want probably would not apply for the job (volunteer). :-)