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Judge To Newspaper - Reveal Name of Commenter

Posted by samzenpus on from the naming-names dept.

First time accepted submitter Andy Prough writes "A Kansas judge has ordered a Topeka newspaper to release the name of a commenter on one of its stories about the trial of Anceo D. Stovall for the murder of Natalie Gibson. Using the name 'BePrepared,' the commenter posted the following in response to a story about the ongoing trial on July 21 at 1:45pm: 'Trust me that's all they got in their little world, as you know, I have been there. Remember the pukes names they will do it for ever.' The problem? The court is convinced that 'BePrepared' was a juror, and was not supposed to be accessing news about the trial before it ended on July 24th. The court wants BePrepared's name, address and IP address. The jury was ultimately unable to find Stovall guilty of 10 of the 11 charges against him — including murder. Both defense and prosecution lawyers appear to want a new trial, and if it turns out that BePrepared was a juror, they are more likely to get their wish."

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  1. News? by ledow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    News why?

    - Juror suspected of perjury.
    - Court issues order to place that published posts which have a reasonable chance of providing evidence of said perjury, to provide the bare minimum of information to identify the poster.
    - If it's not him, end of case.
    - If it is him, file for mistrial, pursue conviction against him.

    Why is this news? This is bog-standard legal procedure for any medium whatsoever (e.g. newspaper letters page would be the same, or CCTV of him in a pub meeting the defendant, or whatever).

    Because "The Internet" means you should be anonymous, untraceable and able to commit criminal acts? Is that the logic?

    1. Re:News? by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Its news as its a bad precident that could easily be abused if allowed to proceed as it is.

      I agree criminals should be dealt with, but not at the cost of another's rights.

      The Constitution says you have a right to free speech. Nowhere does it say you have a right to anonymous speech.

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    2. Re:News? by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, because if I were on trial, I'd want a bunch of morons on the jury. Only idiots brag about getting out of jury duty. The idea is that you approach it as a civic duty and you hope to hell your jury members do too if you're ever on trial.

    3. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Last time I had jury duty I could easily have gotten out of it, but chose instead to be a productive citizen and not do so.

      Anyone who approaches jury duty with the "I want out of this" attitude should certainly not be sitting on one. They are far less likely to take the responsibility seriously, thus leading to dumb fucking decisions like the Samsung/Apple $1bn judgement.

    4. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Minimum wage would be an excellent place to start. It doesn't send a great message when they set minimum wage laws and then can't be bothered to pay even that for one's oh-so sacred civic duty. I'll leave aside for the moment the fact that in many areas, minimum wage isn't enough to live on.
       
        And yeah, I'm sticking with "they." Let's not kid ourselves; you and I are not in charge, and discussions about the nature of self-government are academic when you're missing your rent payments.

    5. Re:News? by alexander_686 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People get the government they deserve. If you can’t take time out of your life to ensure that we have a civil and just society, don’t expect society to be civil and just.

      Oh, and vote next Tuesday.

    6. Re:News? by gander666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every jury I have been called for, I was excused from in the voir dire. Apparently, being a physicist, technologist, and having a broad range of knowledge about geopolitical, local, and national issues makes you too smart for one team or the other.

      The last one I was in the selection pool for, I was called in on the first day, seated first in the jury box, and survived until the last strike from the defense team. I was the last person that they rejected. Pissed me off because it took 4 days to get to that point.

      I have come to the conclusion that one side or the other is always interested in having morons sitting in the box.

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  2. Seems reasonable by Maow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't really have a problem if they're investigating whether a juror made the posting.

    Assuming that, if the poster was not a juror, they will retain their anonymity.

    The "release the name" isn't "print it in the newspaper", it's released to the court, which won't release it further... will it?