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$1,500,000 Fine For Sharing 10 Movies On BitTorrent

another random user writes with news that a Virginia man, Kywan Fisher, has been ordered to pay $1,500,000 to porn-maker Flava Works for sharing ten of the company's films over BitTorrent. "The huge total was reached through penalties of $150,000 per movie, the maximum possible statutory damages under U.S. copyright law." The man did not make any defense in federal court to Flava Works' copyright infringement claims, so the judge handed down a default judgement. "In 2011 Fisher and several other defendants were sued by adult entertainment company Flava Works. The case in question differs from the so-called 'John Doe' lawsuits as the copyright holder had detailed information on the defendants who had paid accounts on the company’s movie portal. For Fisher the trouble started when instead of just viewing the films for personal entertainment, he allegedly went on to share copies on BitTorrent. These illicit copies were traced directly back to his account through a code embedded in the videos. ... The verdict will be welcomed by Flava and the many other copyright holders involved in BitTorrent lawsuits in the United States. DieTrollDie, a close follower and critic of these cases, points out that it will be widely cited in settlement letters to other defendants, but that the case itself is notably different. 'This was not the normal Copyright Troll case – there was some actual evidence beyond a public IP address. Not a smoking gun by far, but certainly enough to show a preponderance of evidence,' DTD writes.

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  1. Re:embedded code? by michelcolman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, we just watch them for the hidden codes, it's what turns us on.

  2. Evidence. by slackware+3.6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So did the judge watch all of the evidence?

  3. Re:WTF... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    i blame tcp/ip. hacker protocol.

  4. Spin by biodata · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The quoted story sounds like it's full of spin. The way I read the story from the BBC was that there were several defendants, most got thrown out of court due to there being no actual evidence of guilt (IP addresses anyone?) and this guy was found against because he didn't bother turning up. Maybe I misread it though.

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  5. Re:WTF... by tgd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem is not Bittorrent. The problem is what you use Bittorent for.
    I I use Bittorent almost exclusivly for down/uploading Linux iso's so I think I'm pretty safe.

    No, for the particular use case this guy (and the GP) are talking about, Bittorrent is, in fact, a dumb solution. The downloading isn't the problem, the sharing back of data you didn't originate is.

    And more generically, you're wrong anyway. If someone rooted one of the seeds of your Linux ISO and stuck a bunch of child porn in it, you're guilty of both downloading and distributing child pornography at that point. It doesn't matter what you say you were doing, or that you didn't produce the ISO. And you can't really detect there's a problem until you've already downloaded the whole ISO so you can hash the file. Now, maybe you get your .torrent files from somewhere secure, but people get onto distro servers with some regularity.

    So, the GP is absolutely right -- using Bittorrent to download and re-seed anything you didn't explicitly produce yourself is, in fact, unsafe, and doing so with content you know is illegal is just plain stupid.

  6. Re:Yeah, because that makes sense by FreonTrip · · Score: 5, Funny

    Forgive my cynicism, but I'm pretty sure There's a Black Man in My Wife's Ass didn't cost more to make than Forrest Gump, or even something like They Live.

  7. Re:WTF... by shentino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting notions but you assume that the lawmakers actually care about common sense.

    They don't. They care about keeping their palms greased.

  8. Re:$1,500,000 for porn by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know, like, when somebody makes a subtle joke, and then somebody else kind of gets that joke, but doesn't know it was a joke, and then makes the obvious joke based on the subtle joke that they didn't know was the joke and ruins both jokes? And then everybody else just gets a little uncomfortable, and says something like "hm... yeah..."

    Yeah, it was kind of like that.

  9. Re:WTF... by volxdragon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interesting notions but you assume that the lawmakers actually care about common sense.

    They don't. They care about keeping their palms greased.

    WRONG metaphor to use with this story, now it will take a few strong drinks to get that mental image out of my head...

  10. Re:embedded code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I work for a provider of digitally downloaded music, and we use watermarking.
    Several years ago, we had an incident where a high-profile music score was released earlier than intended (a winner of a talent show of some sort IIRC), sold a handful of copies before realising the mistake, and then removing the track again. It popped up on piratebay shortly after, and thanks to watermarking, we were easily able to locate the exact individual who shared the track.

    Turned out the marketing guys didn't wanna follow up on the case, apparently because they were afraid to lose reputation with the legit customers.
    To this day, I still have this weird "What is power if you don't use it!" feeling when thinking of the case, and I'm regularly annoyed by uneducated masses who essentially doesn't believe such technology exists and can practically be applied.

    Posting anonymously for probably obvious reasons.