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Apple Hides Samsung Apology So It Can't Be Seen Without Scrolling

An anonymous reader writes "Apple today posted its second Samsung apology to its UK website, complying with requests by the UK Court of Appeal to say its original apology was inaccurate and link to a new statement. As users on Hacker News and Reddit point out, however, Apple modified its website recently to ensure the message is never displayed without visitors having to scroll down to the bottom first."

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  1. Shameful behaviour by manicb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you've been slapped down for contempt of court, your next action really shouldn't be this kind of open contempt. I wonder how Apple's UK employees feel about this disrespect to their courts?

    1. Re:Shameful behaviour by mschaffer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do you really think Apple's UK employees really give a damn?

    2. Re:Shameful behaviour by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It could go much farther than that. I don't know how large a fine the court is allowed to impose for contempt, but I imagine it's pretty large.

      And if the court it more interested in the apology being viewed, they could required Apple to post ads on buses and trains, buy advertising time on television and post the apology in large letters across every website and on the marquis of all their UK Apple stores. They could specify the exact wording, location and size of the ads. They could make them put it in an obtrusive place on every page and piece of paperwork their customers see -- for as long as they want.

      The point here is: don't mess with the judge!

      True in the UK. True everywhere.

    3. Re:Shameful behaviour by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it's just good design.

      Judges don't like "good design". They don't like clever marketing tricks (like the first "apology"). They like absolute, immediate compliance (and not "technical" compliance) with the spirit of their demands.

      Apple needs to suck it up and obey the court's order, or for the next round, you can expect executives to give their apologies on live TV from the inside of a cage.


      If you have clicked on this Slashdot article and are now reading this comment, it is almost certainly below the fold. Yet you read it, right? It's not invisible?

      Do you remember the SlashQuote at the bottom of your page when you wrote that comment? Did you even scroll down far enough to ever see it in the first place?

  2. Apple managers didn't think clearly. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple managers are apparently unaware that sneaky behavior is likely to get a big story on Slashdot.

  3. How long until they just reach for a big hammer? by compro01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder exactly how much patience the judges have for this kind of nonsense.

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  4. Re:OK, stick a fork in them, they're done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He's not saying 'they're done' as in 'they're bankrupt' - wrong context.

    He's saying they've made a pretty serious mistake, which is true; it doesn't matter how big a company you are, there's a point where you can't just ignore the law of the land any longer. This is now the second time that Apple's failed to comply, and the means makes it clear it's deliberate. How do you expect the courts to react to that? Or the people for that matter?

    The UK has a different culture than the US; this won't be seen as 'sticking it to the man' but as childish petulance; it's bad press that Apple does *not* need in a market where they're already behind Samsung. If sanctions go to the EU level then Apple could realistically end up a US-only phone company - so don't underestimate the seriousness of this.

  5. Re:How long until they just reach for a big hammer by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Probably very little, given how quickly they reacted to Apple ignoring the spirit of the law last week. Frankly, I'm stunned that Apple seriously expected that any kind of special treatment of the message posting wasn't doing to get picked up given the level of tech press interest in the UK - the story has even been on the front page of the BBC news site. I'm guessing we'll have wait a few days to find out whether they are going to get another chance to do the right thing by the spirit of the law, or we're just going to go straight to contempt of court and see some more serious punitive action - like having to put the message in place of that nice picture of the iPad Mini.

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  6. Re:OK, stick a fork in them, they're done. by GPierce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Way back in the early days of the Mac, Apple should have been able to rule the world. Unfortunately Apple was run by and anal-retentive asshole who actually tried to rule the world. The Developers and hardware manufacturers who could have participated in Apple's success figured out really quickly that Apple didn't want anyone to share in their success.

    So the developers and hardware companies made Microsoft and PC's a success. Apple would have lost out completely, but they actually built a decent graphics display and a few software developers were able to build some very desirable products that couldn't be run on a PC clone.

    MS could have run Apple out of the marketplace at any time, but they didn't have to because Apple had already cut their own throats. And the bean-counters were unable to make Apple competitive company again.

    When Jobs was invited back (out of sheer desperation on the bean-counters part) he invented the iToys and revitalized a dying company, but in 20 or so years he had never learned a thing and was still an anal-retentive asshole.

    Android has already captured 50% of the smartphone market and once it becomes possible for developers to make a buck (without all the walled garden BS) Apple is once again destined for a 5-10% market share - unless the marketing guys for Android think they can make a buck with their own walled garden.

    Unless they finally learn something, that high-flying Apples stock might turn into an excellent opportunity for short-sale speculators Rim used to make more money than god. It didn't take much to turn that around...

     

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  7. Re:Facts... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, if 48 hours was an unreasonable amount of time to make this change, perhaps Apple should have complied with the original order which gave them 14 days. Instead of, you know, being giant cocks about it.

  8. Re:OK, stick a fork in them, they're done. by vakuona · · Score: 5, Insightful

    iPad mini is estimated to have sold 1.5m in the first weekend. It appears Apple has redefined success. Anyone else sells that amount, it is an unqualified success. If it's Apple it's meh.

  9. Re:OK, stick a fork in them, they're done. NOT! by WGFCrafty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    UK and Samsung at Tanagra. Their arms closed.