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Singapore Builds First Vertical Vegetable Farm

kkleiner writes "Short on arable land? One solution would be to plan up. Singapore, a small country that imports most of its food, has now begun selling vegetables from its first vertical farm. And even while they're more expensive the vegetables are already selling faster than they can be grown. If the farms prove sustainable – both technologically and economically – they could provide a much desired supplement to Singapore's locally grown food and serve as a model for farming in other land-challenged areas."

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  1. suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Singapore Builds _Its_ First Vertical Vegetable Farm

    1. Re:suggestion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the picture in Singapore news is indicative of the farm it's wasting a huge amount of space. Stick solar cells on it, get some high quality LEDs in the right frequency spectrum. Pack those trays as close as possible and still be able to do automated inspection and if needed maintenance and I'd be surprised if they could not make one acre do the work of 300. It would take compartmentalization so disease would not travel, incoming water would be a torrent that would need processed and filtered, incoming nutrients the same. I would grow high dollar crops at first, herbs, spices, medicinals that are allowed and use that to fund the more mundane crops. I doubt you can do grains there at a good profit but most other produce will work. When they come up with square pigs it's all ham and beans at that point. ;)

    2. Re:suggestion by shaitand · · Score: 2

      Every time there is an LED discussion I express my as yet unchanged opinion that LED's are not cost effective and you champion them. Rather than debating the issue again, lets collaborate. I'm willing to commit a reasonable amount of time, money, and resources to being proven wrong.

      As you've indicated in another of my posts on custom lights you are building custom panels with superior output and, more importantly for LED lifetime, superior cooling. Typical off-the-shelf LED units are rated at about 50,000hrs which is comparable to HID. It sounds like you are doing much better and I'm sure that is about cooling, quality design, and quality components.

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  2. Brass Eye by Spad · · Score: 2

    Always reminds me of Brass Eye's Science episode

  3. Drinking water by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And if they can find a good, cheap way to desalinate sea water they could almost declare themselves functionally independant from Malaysia.

    1. Re:Drinking water by belmolis · · Score: 2

      There's no logistical problem importing food into Singapore. The issue is political. Malaysia is a Muslim country dominated by Malay people; Singapore is a secular country whose population is 74% Chinese. There is significant potential for trouble, and at times there actually has been. Singapore was once part of Malaysia and seceded because its people were poorly treated by the dominant Malay Muslims. Singapore is therefore quite interested in avoiding dependence on Malaysia. Similar considerations apply to Indonesia.

    2. Re:Drinking water by DriedClexler · · Score: 2

      Stupid question: Is Malaysia the only country that can export Singapore it's most needed goods?

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  4. Minecraft! by wallyhall · · Score: 2

    It's finally looking a bit more like real life!

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  5. Sunlight is finite by Hentes · · Score: 4, Informative

    No matter how you align your farms, there's a finite amount of sunlight that you can't get more of. This method can increase yields, but only up to a point.

    1. Re:Sunlight is finite by LunaticTippy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One cool thing about vertical farming is the fact that we already have lots of vertical surfaces that are just wasting that sunlight. We can convert existing vertical surfaces to create food with unused sunlight.

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    2. Re:Sunlight is finite by arcite · · Score: 3, Interesting

      LED technology can replace the sun.

    3. Re:Sunlight is finite by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      Of course a lot of housing in Singapore would be happy with a bit of shade.

    4. Re:Sunlight is finite by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

      yes they do. i have grown plants under florescent lights since i was a kid usually just to start the plants then transplant them outside in the spring but they can be grown entirely indoors and sequestered away from the sun if you so desire.

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    5. Re:Sunlight is finite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      there's a finite amount of sunlight that you can't get more of.

      There's a narrow absorption spectrum of chlorophyll A and B (P680,P700). Sunlight is mostly wasted on plants. Converting sunlight into electricity (full spectrum), and that into just 680nm and 700nm would allow more plants to be grown from a set amount of sunlight. It costs more, and the technology to get the most out of it is relatively new. However, that's not what Singapore is doing anyway.

    6. Re:Sunlight is finite by Adriax · · Score: 3, Interesting

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grow_light#LED
      ~450nm (blue) promotes vegetative growth.
      660-680nm (deep red) promotes flowering and fruiting.

      Rather tempted to experiment with led christmas light strands if they have any leftover at walmart this year. Make a cheap grid light out of them and see how plants do.

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    7. Re:Sunlight is finite by khallow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And I think it's been noted that solar cells plus LEDs are a bit more efficient than raw sunlight for plants (I understand plant photosynthesis can't use the IR, a narrow green band, and UV portions of sunlight).

    8. Re:Sunlight is finite by khallow · · Score: 2

      Maximum theoretical overall efficiency of LED lighting is only 43.9 %

      It can do a lot better than that. You're discussing white LEDs which smear the frequency of emitted light and reduce its efficiency. Colored LEDs don't have this problem. I've heard 70% or more, but I don't have cites. Google has turned up a bunch of garbage in that respect. High power LEDs seem less efficient than lower power ones, for what that's worth.

      Also, luminous efficiency for plants is different than it is for human eyes. Red and blue LEDs would have a higher luminous efficiency as plant lights. Green LEDs would have a lower. This is a peculiar quirk of most terrestrial photosynthesis.

      And luminous efficiency for solar cells is yet again different. So here's the angle.

      1) Photosynthesis is notoriously inefficient. Something like 1% of the energy of sunlight is converted to usuable energy. A lot of this is merely because

      2) Solar cells of the slick, not on the market type, can absorb around 40% or more of that solar energy.

      3) Reemit via LEDs the spectrum of light that plants actually can use. I believe you can achieve about 25% luminous efficiency at this point. Raw solar power is probably somewhat worse, perhaps 10-15%. I've heard claims that theoretical limits of solar cells are something like 70% and LEDs somewhere in excess of 90%. If so, you might have a lot of room for improvement.

      4) The argument then is that if you can get the efficiencies of the LEDs and solar cell high enough, then you have power left over. I think we'd be a few zeros away from this tech paying for itself, but it's at least thermodynamically feasible.

      Alternately, it might be cheaper just to bioengineer a plant with better efficiency photosynthesis (eg, the "bionic leaf" that transhumanists occasionally discuss).

    9. Re:Sunlight is finite by tragedy · · Score: 2

      The claims are probably still bunk, but I think the point was that the frequencies of the LEDs could be optimized for plant growing. Green plants obviously don't absorb much green light, although the radiation peak for natural sunlight falls right at green. So, there's probably a decent efficiency bump in using properly tuned LEDs vs. sunlight. As you point out, the efficiency losses from the solar panel setup and the LEDs are probably greater than that can offset. Still, it does mean there is something to offset those other efficiency losses.

      Now, regardless of the lower efficiency, solar panels plus LEDs may still have their place, especially in setups like this. There are plenty of rooftops, parking lots, etc. where it would be completely impractical to build a vertical farm but easily practical to mount solar cells, and you can send that power to LEDs in centralized vertical farms. Even if the efficiency of sunlight to plant growth is only 10-20% you're still making use of sunlight which otherwise would have gone unused for agriculture.

  6. /ITS/ first virtical farm by kwerle · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_farming
    Specifically:
    "The Armenian tower hydroponicums are the first built examples of a vertical farm, and is documented in Sholto Douglas' seminal text "Hydroponics: The Bengal System" first published in 1951.[5] Contemporary notions of vertical farming are predated by this early technology by more than 50 years. link"

    So it's off of "THE first" by about half a century.

    1. Re:/ITS/ first virtical farm by shaitand · · Score: 2

      I think someone else already mentioned the hanging gardens of babylon, that is going to predate 1951 by a bit.

      Vertical farming is definitely old hat, you can find plenty of information on growing weed that way.

  7. Will Allen has been doing this... by sugapablo · · Score: 3, Interesting
  8. Power vs Energy by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2

    From the article "Just 60W of power – just enough for a lightbulb – is needed to operate one tower per day."

    Why is do journalist always mix-up the notions of instantaneous power and quantity of energy?

    1. Re:Power vs Energy by Dekker3D · · Score: 2

      Nah, you're just misinterpreting the units. 60 joules per second per tower per day. Do we know anything else that has time in there twice? Yep, acceleration. For each day that happens, they can power another tower with the same 60 watts.

      They are illegally copying power!

  9. Re:Not the first, only their first. by Migraineman · · Score: 2

    Aquaponics. Using the auto-siphon systems, you can grow just about anything in a gravel bed rather than soil. Uses 1/10 the water of traditional land-based farming. Cool stuff if you have limited resources, but not as simple as putting seeds on the ground and waiting.

  10. Re:Grow house by Tsingi · · Score: 2

    I grow herbs in my living room window.

    Rosemary, basil, chives, oregano, sage, thyme. They are very happy there in a nice looking scaffold sitting in front of the window.

    I may grow vegetables in the future, I'll practice on herbs in the mean time.

  11. Re:/ITS/ first vertical farm by kwerle · · Score: 2

    Gah! How'd I type-o the subject line?

  12. economic feasibility by prisma · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They may not be the first in the world to do this but any new competition should be welcome as being another team and another chance at finding techniques to improve cost effectiveness.

    My first thought after seeing the headline and thinking "That's cool!" was whether or not they could stay in business and what kind of future this setup could have elsewhere. It's probably a concept very much like fuel prices: When prices rise high enough to support more expensive production methods, these fancier methods will have a better chance of gaining traction and staying in business.

    The Singapore government should consider what value they put on food security for their population. If they value it highly enough, then perhaps a subsidy for the company to help them expand would be justifiable.

  13. Insecticides and Bees by Traiano · · Score: 5, Informative

    The value and challenges of hydroponic farming might not be obvious to those of you in the west (I live in Singapore).

    First, the local vegetable market is dominated by Malaysian and Chinese imports. Both of these countries have questionable laws limiting the use of pesticides and fertilizers. I have no doubt that their products are grown unsustainably. Most people wash Chinese vegetables with soap for fear of the chemicals that may remain on them.

    Those imported vegetables are incredibly cheap locally. Its possible to get all the food you need for a stir fry for a small family (with meat) at a local wet market for just a few dollars. But, as I said above, the safety of that food is dubious. Singaporeans are now rich enough (average income second only to Japan in Asia) to expect a better quality of food.

    The one vegetable that we simply cannot get in quality is the tomato. Most are flown here under ripe so they do not crush in transit. Of course the carbon footprint of those tomatoes must be massive. The higher quality ones come from Japan, but apparently were shipped frozen. Tomatoes are mushy, mealy, and never taste like a proper tomato picked in southern Europe's late summer. Sky green's web page shows they are only tackling non-flowering vegetables (greens). This is probably because they are not able to farm the bees needed for tomato pollination. I've never seen a bee in Singapore and don't know what the concerns are of raising honey bees on the island.

    Just a few thoughts from an American in Singapore...

    1. Re:Insecticides and Bees by fm6 · · Score: 2

      According to this web page, greenhouse tomatoes are pollinated either by hand or using cultured (not wild) bumblebees. I suspect that Sky Green is simply starting out with crops that are easy to grow

  14. A bunch of random thoughts by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 2

    So each tray gets its time in the sun while going up the tower, and in the shade going down (or vice versa). It seems this would work well only if the plants you are growing are happy getting half the sunlight available at your location. I'm sure you could get a similar effect in horizontal format with little difficulty.

    If you can get friction low enough, you might be able to make the whole thing run simply by watering the plants at the top of the down part of the cycle, so the weight differential makes it go.

    Scientific American had an article on vertical farms some time back (paywalled here.) As I recall, they had a much more energy intensive design (growing lights etc.) My objection was that for anything like that you could make work in a sky scraper, you could much more cheaply put the same technology out in rural areas.

    The Singapore plan only works if there are areas you're happy to cast into shade (and block views from) with these towers. They can't be close together, or they'll be in each other's shade.

    Incidentally, Singapore's climate has remarkably little annual variation. The hottest month has average high temperature of 31.7C, the coldest month has average high temperature of 30.0C. Rain is more variable, but still by less than a factor of two through the year. (This is not from personal experience.) If anyone knows of somewhere with less weather variability, I'd be interested to hear of it.

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  15. Re:Vertical Vegetable Farming? by couchslug · · Score: 2

    "So, they're raising anencephalics to harvest for transplant organs?"

    Don't give Karl Rove any more ways to "grow" the GOP voting base...

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  16. Re:Grow house by jc42 · · Score: 2

    If you like hot peppers, they're an excellent crop for anyone with a sunny window. Some of the tastiest are sold as "decorative" peppers. This term doesn't mean that they're not worth eating; it comes from the fact that peppers like full sun, but many good hot peppers are from small plants that get shaded out in a garden by other, bigger plants. So you grow them in pots that can be put on any sunny level spot, like a porch or patio or window sill. When they get covered with flowers plus green, white, orange, purple and red fruit, they're very decorative. Like sweet peppers, they're edible at any color stage, though the ripest tend to be the hottest. The green or white ones are less hot, but this lets the other non-hot pepper flavors come through.

    One problem in our household is that, due to my wife's allergies to most furry critters, we share the house with three small parrots. Like most birds, they love hot peppers, and strip them off the plants when we're not watching. So when we take the peppers indoors for the winter, we have to put them in a few sunny windows that the birds can't easily access.

    Like tomatoes, peppers like rich soil and lots of water. So give them some compost if you can, don't let them dry out, and you'll have some very pretty, edible crops in a few months. You can use the seeds in any hot pepper that you like, but if you use a store-bought pepper's seeds, you'll have no idea how big the plant will be. So it's better to just ask for a few peppers from someone who's already growing them. Just plant a few of the seeds in each pot, put them in a sunny spot, and keep them watered.

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  17. Re:Verticle? by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Funny

    If there is one thing that a room full of monkeys can do that isn't write the complete works of Shakespeare... It is make the fertilizer stick to the walls.

  18. Re:Grow house by mogness · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not really that serious. The drug laws are strict but it's actually fairly common to come across illicit substances in SG, just like everywhere else. The cases that make the news usually appear because people are stupid about it, trying to take E out to clubs or smoking weed in the street like they think they're in Amsterdam. Most people who want to don't have a problem. No, there aren't dealers on corners or people walking up to you on the street offering you drugs like back in the US, but we like it that way. Anyone who's been here more than a few years knows someone who knows someone that has drugs. We live on an island country that's only slightly bigger than Manhattan, and we have the world's busiest port. You'd be kidding yourself if you thought they'd catch everything coming in, or if you thought they prosecute every single possession case.

    Porn is also illegal here, but it's silly to think no one is looking at it.

    Singapore's policy with just about everything is if you can keep it to yourself they aren't interested. Keep your head down and you can smoke all the weed you want, if that's your thing.

    What I find craziest of all is that in the first three years of my adult life in the US I had six, maybe seven run-ins with law enforcement. I've been in Singapore for almost four years and I've not yet ever been confronted by a single police officer. And people say Singapore is a police state?

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