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Actual Final Third Party Debate Tonight

Separate from the debate moderated by Ralph Nader last night, Free and Equal is hosting a final third party debate tonight at 9:00 p.m. EST (pre-debate coverage began at 8:00 p.m. EST). As a follow up to the October 23rd debate, only Jill Stein (Green) and Gary Johnson (Libertarian) will be facing each other for ninety minutes of questions primarily focusing on foreign policy. It appears that this one isn't being picked up by C-SPAN, but it is being broadcast on RT America on a few cable networks as well as on YouTube (which should work if you have an HTML5 browser, or via the XBMC YouTube plugin). Discuss.

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  1. Runoff elections... by brainproxy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is why we need them.

  2. Re:Pointless by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Third parties have literally zero relevance on a national stage.

    Unfortunately this will get modded down, but it's true. Having a debate amongst candidates who will never get elected is just an exercise in mental masturbation. Focus needs to be on how to get these candidates electable - how to show most Americans that it does not *have* to be a two-party system.

  3. Re:Loon vs. fruitcake. by Alien+Being · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Loons and fruitcakes? Your brain has been washed. Wake up, look around, and think about the true meaning of the word "democracy".

    The primary goal of every right-minded American should be to eliminate the Democratic and Republican parties with EXTREME prejudice. They are two massive weights sitting on a balance beam and we, REAL FUCKING PEOPLE, are the fulcrum. FUCK THEM.

    Sorry about all the caps but some people need to be shouted at.

  4. Re:Pointless by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I agree there should be focus on how to get these candidates elected. But these debates are not entirely useless. There are people who are not satisfied with R & D, and are looking for alternatives. These debates do help these people (how ever small percentage of the population they are), to choose their right candidate.

  5. Re:Pointless by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Focus needs to be on how to get these candidates electable - how to show most Americans that it does not *have* to be a two-party system.

    As long as the election system is the way it is, it will be a two party system. Even if through some extraordinary circumstances a third party were to get support - like say uncovering that one of the existing parties is a satanic baby raping cult, because that's roughly the level of extraordinary you'd need - they'll either replace one of the existing two parties or return to obscurity, any three-way race is an extremely unstable constellation. And the only ones who can change that is Congress by a 2/3rds majority in both the House and the Senate or 2/3rds of the states calling a congressional convention. Would you care to wager on the odds of a bipartisan constitutional amendment to end their power duopoly? I think the chances are better for me winning the lottery each week for the rest of my life. Until then, the game is rigged for third parties to lose.

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  6. Re:Jill Stein On Nuclear by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is actually one of my biggest gripes against the greens. Next gen nuclear, alongside solar represents the best of green energy.