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The Information Age: North Korean Style

An anonymous reader writes "It seems cell phones and the internet have come to the reclusive nation of North Korea — albeit in a manner that you might not expect. North Korea now sports over a million cell phones, although calls are not allowed outside of the country and text messages come daily from North Korean authorities sporting government propaganda. The internet is not the global internet of Twitter and Facebook, but a government-crafted intranet that is restricted to just a tiny percentage of the population. The intranet is restricted to elites in North Korea with good standing. The intranet uses message boards, chat functions, and state sponsored messages; its use has also been encouraged among universities, technical professionals and scientists, and others to exchange info. An even smaller fraction can access the outside internet. All of this seems to be an effort to control the information revolution without losing authority."

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  1. A Revolution without Losing Authority? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All of this seems to be an effort to control the information revolution without losing authority.

    Let's just stop and think for a minute about that sentence.

    A controlled revolution isn't really a revolution (unless you buy the propaganda of those controlling it). Furthermore the only "revolutions" I can think of that were actually controlled or orchestrated are coups d'état which is a special kind of revolution. Unlike ousting a former government and installing just a new regime, the information revolution is about fundamentally altering our class system from the bottom up. It is directly applied to the masses and by definition is difficult to control (look at China have fun with that). The reason I balk at the idea that anyone could control this is that you can't even show evidence of the information revolution except by way of anecdotes (just examples) and socioeconomic trends in a vast populace (better). How do you control that which is hard to detect?

    So I don't think you can control the information revolution (hence the reason it's called a revolution, it's happening whether those in control want it to or not). You can either let it happen or you fight it. And I feel like North Korea is doing simply the latter. Of course, the sentence from the summary bemuses me beyond most things I read ... but then again I guess that's also the case with anything I find on North Korea.

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    1. Re:A Revolution without Losing Authority? by durrr · · Score: 5, Interesting

      With the ever present wireless tech availible, and a relatively small country like NK next to super-teched SK, it's only a matter of time before enough information spills over to either forcibly induce change or through cooperation with the leadership.

      SK should put a series of 200 meter high towers with ultra strength directional-antenna open wifi beacons along the DMZ. I mean, why?, the SK soldiers along the DMZ should be able to watch starcraft streams on their phones of course! What?, dirty NK pirates stealing their bandwidth! atrocious, lets put a password("1234") to prevent those dirty thieves from stealing their positively overspecced bandwidth.

    2. Re:A Revolution without Losing Authority? by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Its not that simple. The unwashed masses does not become educated just because they got a education. The unwashed masses does not want a revolution either

      Oh, the hilarious irony! More? "Is you a unwashed mass, del_diablo?"

      (Played for humor only, I suspect English isn't your native language, although you do a lot better than many native speakers at slashdot! Mi Espanol no es muy bueno...)

    3. Re:A Revolution without Losing Authority? by dintech · · Score: 4, Funny

      who shall replace North Korea as a meme?

      Cheer up, we've still got Iran. :)

    4. Re:A Revolution without Losing Authority? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 3, Informative

      SK should put a series of 200 meter high towers with ultra strength directional-antenna open wifi beacons along the DMZ.

      Hi, could you take a seat over there? I'm here with BUTU's new reality TV show, "to catch a violator of the laws of physics," and the physics police are waiting outside. I just want to ask you a few questions. Do you think it is appropriate for a /. reader like yourself to just violate the conservative of energy like that?

      (OK, jokes aside, the more gain an antenna has, the more directional it needs to be. Thus, if you had a 75dBi antenna [which would be impractically large for 2.4GHz], you would get amazing range but only in a very tiny area, and otherwise you would have no appreciable reception.)

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    5. Re:A Revolution without Losing Authority? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      With the ever present wireless tech availible, and a relatively small country like NK next to super-teched SK, it's only a matter of time before enough information spills over to either forcibly induce change or through cooperation with the leadership.

      That might work for broadcast media; but it'd be a nervy(or foolish) North Korean who operates an unauthorized radio transmitter that would allow for any sort of bidirectional networking... Some radio receivers are noisy enough to detect(see the BBC's old-school TV detector vans); but any transmitter running at useful power, unless using some sort of extremely tight directional antenna, is just asking for a knock on the door...

    6. Re:A Revolution without Losing Authority? by NEW22 · · Score: 4, Informative

      And quite rightly so? Hell, NK has a fake city set up that actively blared propaganda into SK via loudspeaker for years. Popped off some artillery at a SK island setting fire to buildings a couple years back. Oh, and kidnappings. That's the easy stuff off the top of my head. For SK to retaliate with free Wi-fi would, in comparison, clearly be an appalling violation of NK sovereignty!

  2. Dear Leader approve this 1980's BBS! by crazyjj · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Leader wish to remind all BBS user that upload ratios be strictly enforced for glory of True Korea and Worker Party!

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  3. Airdrop cheap tablets like leaflets by na1led · · Score: 3, Funny

    Cheap Tablets with limited 3G bandwidth and full access to the Internet. Let the real revolution start!

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    1. Re:Airdrop cheap tablets like leaflets by Remus+Shepherd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe use even cheaper tablets with no wireless access, but with a 64 Gb cache of the Best of the Internet. I'm thinking Wikipedia, the Food Network recipe files (North Koreans are hungry!), and selected high-quality porn.

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  4. NK $p4m by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lulz @ cptl$m. KrlMrx 4eva. Ma0 MTSBWY.

  5. Opportunity to sow seeds of discontent? by Muad'Dave · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could this be an opportunity for South Korea (or any other western government) to send their own daily propaganda text messages to phones in NK? All it would take is a fake cell site just over the border, on a (very high) flying aircraft/drone, or on a ship outside territorial waters. Having radio-based technology in the hands of the masses in NK can work for _and_ against the current government.

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  6. An entire country imprisoned/brainwashed by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Imagine, an *entire country* held captive and being brainwashed by political media. I hear North Korea is pretty bad too.

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  7. Meanwhile, in the US, media all sounds the same by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's no coincidence that all the major media players use exactly the same words to describe events. Case in point? The description of the election was "razor tight" was repeated everywhere. Now if this were a commonly used expression, I wouldn't have noticed. But this is a ridiculous and meaningless expression. what is "tight" about a razor? Nothing. Razors are sharp. Razors are thin. Razors are not "tight." But that the media repeated this across the board says a lot to me.

    It says they are there to repeat what they are told to say and to use that repetition to drive the masses to think and believe in particular ways. And of course it works...

    "Support the troops!" Right? It doesn't mean what I think it should mean. Of course it *does* mean that we don't reject them when they return from tours of destruction and unaccounted for "collateral damage" which may or may not include the killing of children or other innocents. It means we don't blame them for doing what they were told... or even if they were doing more than they were told. (Really, we don't know what they were told to do.) But that it should mean is that wounded fighters should have their lives taken care of for the rest of their lives... you know, like the congressmen, senators and presidents who sent them off into harm's way to do their bidding in persuit of their agenda. We don't do that. Our government has no interest in doing that. No one actually supports the troops in any meaningful way... in fact, on Veteran's day, the one "holiday" where *I* (a veteran of the first Iraq 'thing') should get recognized and the day off and all that, I don't. Who does? Banks, the postal service, some schools... Not me though.

    "Support the troops!" means something else. It actually means "support our agenda unquestioningly" and that is exactly what has been happening.

  8. Moron by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Informative

    Really, you are a moron, what base tower are they going to connect to? Or do you think 3g is some kind of miracle magic internet thingy that just works anywhere?

    Morons like this are on a tech site but know nothing about tech or reality. North Korea might have cell towers but they aren't connected to the rest of the world. All you will do in NK is you turn on a cellphone is give the position of someone who is going to spend sometime in a labor camp. Your cellphone won't connect but its position will be accurately enough determined through triangulation.

    No doubt some equal noob is going to shout something about darknet or whatever cyber crap they heard but never understood. The reason you can hide things on the internet in the west is because nobody is looking. The easiest way to stop people from communicating is NOT to listen to what they are saying but to kill anyone who says anything at all.

    In NK there won't be a crack team trying to break your encrypted mails, if you don't belong to the elite, you send an email, you die. End of story. You belong to the elite and they can't plainly see it as readable, they ask you through a rubber hose.

    In NK there is no TSA to try to catch your out at the airport, they catch you at the airport, you die. End of story.

    In NK there is no drone trying to see if you grow weed, you use electricity, your door is busted open to see what you are using it with.

    This is a dictatorship, they don't ask why you are broadcasting, broadcasting ANYTHING is illegal.

    Below some idiot talks about a mesh network... yeah because creating a netword of transmitters in a place nobody trusts each other is going to last anytime at all.

    REALLY, this is supposed to be a tech site not a site for dweebs who heard a word and run with it.

    THINK for a second what total control means. NK information comes in through the ass and goes out. Film rolls smuggled inside and if you survive the border, ANYONE finds out what you done, you are dead and your family is dead. This is a place where MILLIONS died and NOTHING happened. This is not a nice dictatorship like nazi germany, this is something the world has never seen before, total control.

    Can just everyone on this site accept that ANY transmitter will be detected? This was true as long back as WW2. The only thing possible is to create a transmitter that requires practically no power, can be moved very fast and broadcast near instantly and it tiny. Then you might get out a burst on the go and not be found. And you would have to do that all the time in a country where if someone turns you in, they will eat something besides grass.

    Dropping tablets with 3g? So dumb it really deserves not just mockery but vilification.

    Que mod down by some butthurt noob whose teachers all told him he was special.

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  9. Re:"Information age"? by JustOK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Propaganda isn't necessarily false.

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  10. Re:"Information age"? by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Propaganda isn't information.

    Repeat that often enough and people might believe you.

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