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Mega Finds New Home, Dotcom Says

hypnosec writes "Kim Dotcom has revealed that Megaupload's successor, Mega, which is reportedly launching on January 20, 2013, will be operating through a new domain name: Mega.co.nz. Through a tweet Dotcom announced that Mega has found a new home and that the new domain name is protected by the law. Dotcom also revealed that lobbyists won't be able to do anything about this, as 'judges are not influenced by politics in New Zealand.' Recent announcements about Mega's domain — Me.ga — didn't go as planned following a decision by the Government of Gabon to suspend the domain name. Dotcom had announced at the time that despite the blockage, Mega would launch as planned."

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  1. Question - "Judges are not influenced by politics" by ciderbrew · · Score: 2

    Who sets the laws in the first place and who changes laws? (Don't say "the people" you'll be modded down as mental.)

  2. Mega Conz by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Mega CONZ... It's a TRAP! err, a Con!

  3. Launching Jan 20, 2012! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seems like it is a bit belated.

    1. Re:Launching Jan 20, 2012! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2

      shows sit in the can years before finally airing them.

      "if its yellow, let it mellow.
      if its brown, flush it down."

      (seen on a sign at a country hotel that had an, uhm, interesting bathroom setup. water conservation can be taken too far, sometimes).

      not sure why I thought of this. but it is what it is.

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  4. Sounds like by Konster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Domain sounds like Mega Cons when read aloud.

    Not a shock, or anything. ;)

  5. time machine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    "..reportedly launching on January 20, 2012."

    1. Re:time machine? by SydShamino · · Score: 4, Informative

      We'll, it is reported to be launching on January 20, 2012. The report is just wrong.

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    2. Re:time machine? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      They're the wrong side of the international dateline, so time goes backwards, just like in Australia.

      Or am I getting confused with the toilets?

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  6. Re:Question - "Judges are not influenced by politi by Evardsson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who sets the laws in the first place and who changes laws? (Don't say "the people" you'll be modded down as mental.)

    Everyone knows it's those with the cash.

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  7. Good luck with that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just looked up the Wikipedia article called "Internet censorship in New Zealand" and followed all the references.

    All it will take to get this very easily shut down is a bit of deliberate seeding with kiddie porn, or making up something similar.

    Absolutely will not work.

  8. Re:Question - "Judges are not influenced by politi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cash
    Rules
    Everything
    Around
    Me.ga

  9. Under the Piracy category, huh Slashdot? by jtnix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Despite all that has been said on this particular topic, I wonder why this is news is classified with a skull and crossbones, not under YRO, and tagged as piracy.

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    1. Re:Under the Piracy category, huh Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because Kimble was a famous pirate in the early/mid 90s (Romkids), who narced on BBS when he got caught carding. He then ran a bunch of investment scams, got busted in Germany and Hong Kong. Moved onto New Zealand after burning those bridges, ran a site that gave rewards and turned a blind eye to piracy of everything under the sun. No idea what his next venture is going to be, but the man is a pirate by reputation.

    2. Re:Under the Piracy category, huh Slashdot? by Tom · · Score: 2

      Copyright is a limitation on free speech.

      Idiot.

      Copyright is the right of the creator to his own works of art (words or otherwise). By definition, you own the copyright for your own words. Thus, your Free Speech is protected by, not limited by copyright.

      Putting someone elses words through the printing press to distribute them is not Free Speech. Doing it with your own words is legal.

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    3. Re:Under the Piracy category, huh Slashdot? by Nyder · · Score: 2

      Because Kimble was a famous pirate in the early/mid 90s (Romkids), who narced on BBS when he got caught carding. He then ran a bunch of investment scams, got busted in Germany and Hong Kong. Moved onto New Zealand after burning those bridges, ran a site that gave rewards and turned a blind eye to piracy of everything under the sun. No idea what his next venture is going to be, but the man is a pirate by reputation.

      So what? You butthurt because he narc'd on you? Or did you invest in his investments? Because no one gives a fuck about that shit, at all. What is on the table is his Megaupload site, and the fact that without it going to trial, the USA managed to get him out of business and even copies of his data, which wasn't legally theirs to take. Not to mention so far that it appears that the RIAA and MIAA convinced politicians that they have close ties to (namely, they pay off) to go above the law in bringing megaupload down.

      So no matter how much you bring up the past, it doesn't change that the USA Government overstepped their bounds at the request of some corporations. Now the USA is scared to bring it to court because it's going to be embarrassing for some key political figures, like the vice president.

      And yes, Mr. Shill, you should be scared.

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    4. Re:Under the Piracy category, huh Slashdot? by Tom · · Score: 2

      Making someone a criminal is also the first move of an authoritarian regime to suppress the speech of opponents/dissidents

      Yes, but the reverse does not hold true - not everyone treated as a criminal is actually a heroic freedom fighter. Even in China, some of the people in jail are simply robbers, rapists and murderers.

      The world is not that simple and nobody, including the US, is strong and independent enough not to have to resort to dealing with unsavory regimes, leaders, and people.

      True, and I'll be the first to agree that "good" and "bad" are often relative.

      But you're trying to distract from the point I made. That two bad guys fighting are still two bad guys fighting. And the fact that they are fighting each other, does not miraculously turn one of them into a good guy we should root for.

      Many French criminals and criminal gangs became part of the French Resistance in WW2 as well.

      And a lot of people in the security industry have less than white pasts. But in these cases, their new activities are clean, while the /. crowd is white-washing Kim's past activities into something they were not.

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  10. New Zealand is a good place by tokul · · Score: 3, Funny

    New Zealand is a good place to start new business after your business is destroyed by your arrest which occurred on some Pacific country. Could you remind me in which country you were arrested, Kim?

    1. Re:New Zealand is a good place by MadCow42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And if you followed the story, his bust in NZ was NOT above board. The FBI coerced them into doing it, and taking many many shortcuts and liberties along the way, embarrassing the hell out of the NZ government and police. I'd say it's a safe bet they won't do that again. If he does get taken down again, it'll be much more carefully and LEGALLY done - and Kim I'm sure is taking close care to not step over that line (although he's mighty close to it).

      Mega is different because all the content is client-side encrypted before being uploaded. Mega specifically has no access to the content or ability to filter it, and hence no responsibility for it. I'm sure they'll comply with takedown notices too. The liability is on the user, as it should be - otherwise the Cloud business model is already dead.

      MadCow.

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  11. Re:Question - "Judges are not influenced by politi by e3m4n · · Score: 4, Interesting

    no no no.. its called "The Golden Rule"

    he who has the gold makes the rules

  12. Re:Mega Cons? by e3m4n · · Score: 3, Funny

    next thing you know its going to be a full fledged vegas convention with all kinds of weirdo's dressed in costume!

  13. Being sanguine about democracy by concealment · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who sets the laws in the first place and who changes laws?

    The politicians who receive the most votes.

    That means "the people," through their delegates.

    1. Re:Being sanguine about democracy by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Classical Athens had a real democracy, where citizens voted

      For sufficiently unpoor and non-female values of "citizens".

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    2. Re:Being sanguine about democracy by Hatta · · Score: 2

      You assume that voting is a reliable method for determining the will of the people. There are many, many, many reasons why it is not. These range from social reasons, like low voter turnout, to systemic mathematical flaws, like winner take all elections.

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  14. Re:"Judges...", BUT by BoRegardless · · Score: 2

    If everything is encrypted, how can Mega.co.nz be anything but a storage container of unknown files?

  15. Re:Question - "Judges are not influenced by politi by fnj · · Score: 2

    Simplistic lazy cynics like you do more damage than the plutocrats. You have a vote, you have freedom of speech. You're not powerless, but you pretend you are because it's the easier option.

    I couldn't agree more, but there is a problem: there is no "voting public" in the sense of a single entity making rational, well informed decisions. In a land of one hundred million voters, each voter can only execute one hundred-millionth of a decision and maybe try to influence a handful more hundred-millionths through personal persuasion. A great many of those individuals naturally (but not stupidly) concentrate on one overriding issue each, and not the same issue as the next guy.

    The ridiculously anthropomorphic concept of "the decision of the voters" is nonsensical. There are one hundred million disparate decisions, based on widely varying criteria, reasoning processes, and emotions. These separate decisions then combine mathematically to result in an incoherent selection of winners across the spectrum of offices being contested. The resulting selection rarely pleases a very large percentage of voters, as an inherent result of the process.

    A modest proposal. In industry we found it necessary to develop a balance to the concentrated power of large employers by having the employees band together in unions to synthesize concentrations of power of their own. Is it possible we should think of something similar in representative democracies? What if there were a provision to allow the creation of agents with agendas? What if individual voters could sign up to hand over their voting proxies to these agents? It would be optional, just as proxies in the investment world are optional. It gets a bit messy, because you would need different systems of agents at the national, state, and local levels, but that does not really make it very difficult to administer.

    These various agents would each publish their own agenda, argue their cases, and solicit their own supporters. They would of course be required to publish their voting histories, so prospective supporters could evaluate their integrity. The gain is that they would not have the massive incentive to lie, cheat, and game the system like candidates do now; and they would be more resistant to being lied to, cheated, and games by the candidates.

    OK, the decision making in the government is already representative. Are we sure the decision making in the elective process would not benefit from also being made representative?

    I'm sure there are counter arguments, aspects I have missed, and fine tuning required. Any takers?

  16. Tom (822) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    u must be new here

  17. Governments can do whatever the hell they want by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 5, Informative

    Back in 2003, I built the world's first DIY cruise missile in a garage here in New Zealand.

    When the media found out, they approached the government for comment and the Prime MInister of the day (Helen Clark) admitted that in doing this, I had broken no laws.

    Well when the US government found out what I'd been doing they were outraged and intense pressure was applied to the NZ government to shut down this low-cost-cruise-missile project.

    But how could they do that? -- after all, the PM had admitted I'd broken no laws in doing so.

    Well as we all (now) know, governments can do any damned thing they want and if they can't achieve their ends by fair means, they'll use foul ones.

    As a result, they "Caponed" me and used the NZ equivalent of the IRS to bankrupt me by coming up with all manner of "assessed" tax liabilities and breaching an agreement I already had in place.

    A local TV current affairs program did a piece on my plight:

    Part 1
    Part 2

    and you can see from that, just how governments are able to sidestep or force the courts to do whatever they want -- when there's an agenda involved.

    So Kim Dotcom ought to be very careful -- who knows what a savage dog will do when you back it into a corner?

    I've written a book about this chapter (and others) of my life but suffice to say I have had some issues with publishers who don't want to get involved in a case where it's obvious that the rulebook gets tossed out the door in favor of covering asses at high levels.

  18. Re:Question - "Judges are not influenced by politi by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it possible we should think of something similar in representative democracies? What if there were a provision to allow the creation of agents with agendas?

    It's called a political party.

    Yes, I know the current party system is deeply flawed. But what you describe is the idea of political parties, plain and simple.

    There is also a more modern system with a more fine-grained and fluid agency system like this, invented by the Pirate Party, called Liquid Democracy. GIYF.

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