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US Justice Dept. Sues eBay For Anti-Competitive Hiring Practices
McGruber writes "The Associated Press is reporting that the U.S. Justice Department is suing eBay for allegedly agreeing with Intuit not to hire each other's employees. According to the article, 'eBay's agreement with Intuit hurt employees by lowering the salaries and benefits they might have received and deprived them of better job opportunities at the other company,' said acting Assistant Attorney General Joseph Wayland, who is in charge of the Justice Department's antitrust division. The division 'has consistently taken the position that these kinds of agreements are per se (on their face) unlawful under antitrust laws.'"
As a software developer and QuickBooks user I can assure you that no one should hire the Intuit guys anyway.
IBM uses contract employee companies like CDI for disposable employees. CDI and IBM have agreements that limit CDI employee's ability to apply for other positions within CDI and IBM. Would these agreements be illegal as well?
per se -- in itself
prima facie -- on it's face
Collusion
Collusion is an agreement between two or more persons, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair advantage. It is an agreement among firms to divide the market, set prices, or limit production. It can involve "wage fixing, kickbacks, or misrepresenting the independence of the relationship between the colluding parties". In legal terms, all acts affected by collusion are considered void.
Collusion is largely illegal in the United States, Canada and most of the EU due to competition/antitrust law, but implicit collusion in the form of price leadership and tacit understandings still takes place.
Also known as the opposite of competition, or incompatible with a competitive environment, or simply "anti-competitive."
But I thought Meg was in favor of a free market! Just not for employees I suppose. Apparently what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Intuit was sued by the DOJ before for this, and along with Apple, Google, Intel and Pixar, reached a settlement with DOJ and agreed in 2010 to stop doing this. Of course, TFA says the collusion in question took place from 2006 to 2009, so I'm thinking they've already covered this. Unless they kept their collusion with eBay a secret at the time, so it's not covered by the settlement, and now DOJ is going to kick them in the pants for not coming clean about all of their illegal activities and partners. My guess is that now DOJ is going to be on a fishing expedition to find out what other collusion Intuit was hiding.
BOOM!
Sounds more like how the US uses the Special Compartmentalized information Compartment
HCS - Human Control System to enslave ppl (illegal thus can not legally be classified)
Points to "Real" hackers not some false authorities or fake slashdot clowns
Work for the US or not work at all
This Slavery ended up with the massive leak of information LEGALLY of $76 trillion dollars of information
That is fatal to the US basically everything is now free to the world
That is the cost of freedom
You wanted slavery so bad then you can be one...
I am here to inform you that eBay and Intuit are the only employers in town.
I once took an excursion to Reddit, and later HN. Unlimited up/down voting sucks when dealing with a hive-mind.
I guess it's kinda nice to see the justice department doing something that'll help, but compared to H1-B this isn't even a itty, bitty itsy bitsy drop in the worlds smallest bucket. Still, it's nice to see the effect of a Democrat in the White house. He can't do much, but he's doing what he can.
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You mean the agreements explicitly agreed to between union management and corporations? Or the agreements explicitly agreed to between union management and employees? As far as I know, with the exception below, union employees are free to leave their union and sign up, there's nothing legally stopping them (caveat: there are some social issues).
Trying to figure out which of these is as unethical as two people agreeing not to hire a third person without his consent.
There is one place I may see your point on: the existence of "closed shops". That definitely needs to be attacked (and is illegal in many places). There should never be a closed shop, everyone should have the right to apply for a job. If the union is doing ITS job, employees will pay their dues and join. If management is doing ITS job, employees have no need of a union.
> union employees are free to leave their union
And Ebay/Intuit were free to end their agreement at any time. What's your point? Do you think that the labor supply market cannot be monopolized by unions, or at least reduced per se by agreements?
Ebay steals money from its sellers. I hope DOJ will take notice of this and sue Ebay. I know someone who did nothing wrong but was accused by Ebay of doing something illegal. Consequently, they stole all the proceeds of his sale on Half.com
Only applys when it's in the companys favor. Not yours.
Just like pretty much everything else. One set of rules for us peons. No rules for those with the money to bribe, buy, lobby, etc...
Where has the DOJ been? Oh that's right going after states who pass voter id laws all the while the AG grand stands and panders to ever special interest in the country instead of enforcing our laws. Now they can go after bigger fish and say "hey, lookie what we got right chere!" Yeah, you got two lame ducks. EBay and Intuit? Come on you may as well have gone after Hostess and Wonder Bread. Oh wait, Hostess is out of business now anyway, so they won't put up much of a fight with the DOJ.
American Airlines, IBM, HP (and the former EDS) and many others, all of them do this and now they're making a point out of EBay and Intuit? Wow, this seems like so 10 years ago when both of these entities mattered. The collusion is rampant and it's meant to keep wages low and remove options for people.
So here's how it'll play out, the DOG will go to court and lambaste these two titans of industry (I'm still laughing) They'll rail against these companies and make really good press for a couple of weeks. Then they'll reach a settlement deal and EBay and Intuit will pay a fine and say "we're sorry and won't do it again." Yeah right. As long as nobody gets caught and held truly accountable for this kind of crap, it will keep on happening
Then again you have a right to work wherever you want and they have a right to fire you whenever they want. It's the American way.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
I don't even see how there could be a conflict. One is an internet company and the other mainly hunts seals and whales for meat.
I'm confused, is this different from non-competes? I thought non-competes where standard practice in a lot of area's of business. Sorry for my ignorance
Take a course in game theory and at the end see if you think all companies don't signal each other wrt hiring, salary and advancement.
ALMOST FORGOT
paypal is a cocksucking ticking time bomb for sellers
Buyers got it made.
Had to be said.
There needs to be other ways to pay.
I like gold and silver like the constitution says, but the oath breakers currently outnumber the oath keepers.
MAY GOD HELP THEM, WHEN THIS SHIT FINALLY GETS REAL
My firm is in a joint venture with another, and they explicitly will not hire each others' employees while partnered. Anyone familiar with what the law says in such a case?
... of corporations? I mean, now that companies are considered to be people, shouldn't their rights be weighed equally against those of their workers?
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Labor unions are exempt from most antitrust laws.
By entering into such an agreement they are only hurting each other. The employees have plenty of other places to go.
It is in the interest of every company to be able to hire whomever best fits the need.
Liberty.
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