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Just Days After Release, Google's Nexus 4 Has Already Been Rooted

An anonymous reader writes "Google's Nexus 4 sold out around the world very quickly this week, and while there was talk of very limited supply, apparently some key people managed to get their hands on it. That's right: the Nexus 4 has already been rooted."

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  1. Why is this news? by Severus+Snape · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Isn't this supposed to be dead easy?

    1. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yep, it's an unlocked device and you're supposed to be able to root it without issue.

    2. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why is it news?
      Because the "reporter" lives under the iStockholmSyndrome and thinks that having access to hardware you bought can only be done through clever trickery.

    3. Re:Why is this news? by movrev · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From Wikipedia: "The Google-branded Android devices, the Nexus One, Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus, can be boot-loader unlocked by simply connecting the device to a computer while in boot-loader mode and running the Fastboot program with the command "fastboot oem unlock".[7] After accepting a warning the boot-loader will be unlocked so that a new system image can be written directly to flash without the need for an exploit."

    4. Re:Why is this news? by movrev · · Score: 5, Informative
    5. Re:Why is this news? by Psychotria · · Score: 5, Informative

      Isn't this supposed to be dead easy?

      It's not news. Clueless journalist and an even more clueless Timothy for accepting this as a story. But, hey, what else should we expect?

    6. Re:Why is this news? by Psychotria · · Score: 3, Funny

      MEDIA RELEASE

      Status: Current
      Release: For general public
      Copyright: (C) 2012, McDaffy Duck incorporated, All Rights Reserved (R)
      Approved by: Timothy

      Introduction

      Today McDaffy -- a leading anti-virus/malware/knowledge vendor -- made a startling discovery. Researchers at McDaffy for months have been toiling over and reverse engineering code from myriad sources (although the source was not available.) McDaffy is disclosing this information in the interests of honest disclosure. Severe security flaws are found on Personal Computers and PCs.

      Background and Terminology

      Beginning in early 1986 McDaffy researchers began exploring the possibility of running arbitrary code on arbitrary hardware where not only was the "root password" was known but the hardware was directly available and accessible. After 26 years of careful research a talented intern hit upon the jackpot. Through a cunning combination of access to hardware, an open operating system, and 15 M&Ms he was able to inject carefully crafted code into the colonel.

      Colonel: The heart of a computer
      CPU: Cologne Prince(poofter) Unit

      Once the intern had impregnated the colonel with the tainted DNA (code) he had unimaginable access to the system. The colonel directs all orders of the computer. Orders of the user, I mean. Or something. Anyway this injection of sperm allowed the intern unimaginable power. He had zero day access!

      Zero day access: The time it takes to impregnate a colonel; in this case zero days

      Results

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    7. Re:Why is this news? by Macthorpe · · Score: 2

      Well, unlocking the bootloader is not the same as rooting, which is why it's more news than it people give it credit for.

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    8. Re:Why is this news? by XaN-ASMoDi · · Score: 2

      In other breaking news, scientist reveal night follows day SHOCKER!

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    9. Re:Why is this news? by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From Wikipedia:

      Even better: From the Android documentation

    10. Re:Why is this news? by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right because "sold out" automatically means that the Nexus is doing as well as the iPhone without knowing how many were sold.

    11. Re:Why is this news? by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      In other breaking news, scientist reveal night follows day SHOCKER!

      It's just a correlation

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    12. Re:Why is this news? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep, it's an unlocked device and you're supposed to be able to root it without issue.

      which, I find very amusing...

      Slashdot supposed to be a place for geeks, and look what we have here ... Both the Slashdot Submitter and Slashdot Editor do not know that Google's Nexus devices are made to be rootable.

      How can Slashdot remains a geeky place when the editor ain't geeky enough?

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    13. Re:Why is this news? by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So without knowing how many we're built, "it's a very good score?" Apple announced how many they sold the first weekend. Why won't Google? If they only made 50,000 and "sold out", is that good?

    14. Re:Why is this news? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Sold out" means the same thing in any time or place:

      More people want them, than are available. In a "free market", that scarcity drives prices up. Apple intentionally creates that kind of scarcity, and it's possible that the same trick has been pulled here.

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    15. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I wish they would announce how many they sold. They still don't "get" physical merchandise fulfillment at all. I was trying to order one from 2:30 AM on the day they came out. They didn't bother to tell anyone WHEN they would become available on that day - we had to rely on reports from tech news sites that "it showed up in Australia and sold out in 1 hour and the play store was unusable". Finally at 8:37 AM Pacific Time, it shows up. I put one in my cart and proceed to checkout. I select a credit card and shipping address, then submit and - it clocks - and errors out and auto cancels my order. Within five offices of me two other folks were trying to order too. None of us got one. From what I understand there were a whole bunch of people wanting them that got nothing. We had also registered in advance for notification when they became available. No notification went out. During the "slow response" and errors the play store was getting, we registered again for notifications (hoping that they would tell us when they go back into stock or will actually allow pre-orders like other retailers). Now you can't even register anymore. They definitely screwed this up. And they continue to screw it up by not communicating AT ALL about it - they won't tell us when they might have more, won't let us pre-order, etc. I suggest that next time they let someone who knows how to build a store front site so that it stays up do the fulfillment. They should probably ask Google too as Google would have known how many units they needed. After all Google has all that data on everyone and they sell targeted ads. They can harvest Google+ posts (like mine that said I would be buying this phone day one). Oh wait - they are Google. WTF? They should have known how many they would need.

    16. Re:Why is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure Google is selling them for the same price regardless of whether or not they sold out. Here in the real world, there are more important, complicating factors than, "what's the most you can demand for this widget according to intersection on supply & demand".

      And sales volume for a Nexus device will likely be smaller than whatever Apple's new iPhone is. That's not good or bad, there are just a hundred Android devices out there to pick from.

      And more important - why do we care? Both kinds are doing well. Worry about whether or not the Nexus is a good phone or not. These are all just cell phones, after all.

  2. Rubbish by ConallB · · Score: 5, Informative

    Entering the command "fastboot oem unlock" using ADB is what enables custom firmware and bootloaders to be flashed. This is hardly a revelation. In fact, this is how you unlock many Motorola devices and others. Saying it has "already been rooted", as if there was some kind of elaborate hack or cleverness involved is simply wrong. Thats like saying by taking off your training wheels yo9u somehow rooted your bicycle.

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  3. Open Source? What?? I'm confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Isn't android supposed to be open sourced? And doesn't Google provide instructions and the tools to root a phone? I was under the impression that it was praised for those reasons.

  4. All Nexus are easy by SirJorgelOfBorgel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All Nexus devices can be rooted in 30 seconds or less .... by design.

  5. Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes they are easy to root, but you still have to know what to do once the bootloader is unlocked, meaning flashing Clockworkmod, installing the superuser or supersu apk and such.

    1. Re:Missing the point by ewanm89 · · Score: 2

      You do not need to install a custom recovery image like clockworkmod recovery to root.

  6. Re:I don't get it by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Open and Rooted are two different things.

    The Nexus is not Rooted from the start.
    Rooted means that apps and the user may have superuser access to the system. Much like running as root in Linux this is generally not something that is needed for day to day usage. There's very few things that actually require root access to your phone. Some of the things I can think of is the ability to modify and delete system applications, write custom settings to the kernel (overclock, enable different schedulers etc), and modify system files like the hosts file. Some of these are used by things like adblockers, and as for the rest... well lets just say with a rooted phone you actually can damage the hardware if you do something wrong. Rooting often involves flashing a custom kernel to the phone. To do this requires an unlocked bootloader which many devices don't have and where a lot of the hacking really takes place (see next comment).

    The Nexus is Open from the start.
    What Open means is that there are no additional lockdowns over what is the vanilla Android experience. There's no carrier apps that can't be uninstalled, no customisations, and most importantly there's an accepted, endorsed and well documented method of unlocking the bootloader on the device after which you can effectively do whatever the heck you want to it including rooting, or even installing a completely different Android operating system like Cyanogenmod.

    The only thing here that I don't get is why this garbage that passes as journalism thinks this is a worthy story. Effectively the Nexus 4 has had the ability to be rooted long before it's release given how the latest JellyBean has kernels that incorporate root access in the wild since day one, and that unlocking the bootloader to install it is as easy as using ADB to send the command "fastboot oem unlock" to the phone, just like with every previous Nexus device.

  7. Re:I don't get it by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is tanks to revolutionary

    +1, Unexpected Metaphor

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  8. you made it, timothy by csumpi · · Score: 2

    you made it into pop culture history today:

    pulling a timothy: blatantly stating the obvious from an obviously false angle

  9. Re:Bootloader Unlocking is not Rooting by ewanm89 · · Score: 2

    no, but it's not much more:
    fastboot oem unlock
    fastboot boot .img

    maybe then depending on how image above was setup:
    adb push su /bin/
    adb install SuperUser.apk/SuperSU.apk

    adb reboot

  10. In other words by kasperd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can own a Nexus phone, you just have to buy it. Unlike other phones, which are still owned by the vendor even after they have been bought by a consumer.

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    Do you care about the security of your wireless mouse?
  11. 0-day exploit!!! by fsmunoz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    CONFIRMED: WIndows 8 0-day security BREACH, a certain Tim Black from MN has reported that he was able to log in as Administrator in a Thinkpad laptop he had bought just one hour before. The hack consists in introducing the password that he had previously defined!

    GROUNDBREAKING: we have received an unconfirmed as of yet report that one-year Ubuntu user Jane Leary in Corpus Christi was able to root a RHEL system with all security patches installed: the process is involved but includes entering a "password" that one knows into a "login" prompt. Redhat has not yet replied to this incident.

    STOP THE PRESSES: people who have lost all sense of actually owning the things they buy and are used to being prisioners in their little wall gardens are apparently so surprised that there are devices in which one can install whatever one likes that they have started reporting this as "1337 hackery". Some of them have posted their surprise on iTunes and on former technology-savy site /. (not to be confused with the one form the 90's).

    PS: this is why most people actually buy Nexus devices: not specifically by their specs, simply because the concep of having to go out of their way to install stuff on something that cost them money is absurd.

  12. I'm having trouble rooting mine... by davidshewitt · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... due to lack of physical access. :-(

  13. Re:I don't get it by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Somehow I'm struggling with the concept of buying a Google branded phone with Google services and then calling the Google apps junk. I noticed that you didn't mention Google Maps, is that maybe because you like maps and as such think everything is junk because you don't use it?

    This is quite different from say the Samsung App store which at the time when I purchased my Galaxy S has 2 (yes only two) apps in it. I also had Optus apps that did nothing other than redirect me to facebook's website. THAT is junk, the above ones you mention are actually quite useful and well coded.

    As for your corporate examples, this is not something an end user would do. If your company provides you with a phone and instructions to root it and set a different MTU then it's time to fire the IT staff. If you want to put non end user cases into why you would root the phone then simply mention the words developers and you'll have a significantly larger base requiring rooted phone then some obscure corporate VPN.