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This Is What Happens When You Deep Fry a Frozen Turkey

Too late for many east-coast Americans, but perhaps in time to stop a blaze or two in California, an anonymous reader writes with this video of "a controlled demonstration of why it is a bad idea to fry a frozen turkey." My brother this morning assembled (despite poor directions and questionable parts fit) a deep fryer for a Thanksgiving turkey; we're optimistic, and the turkey seems to be fully thawed at least.

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  1. Why so full? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Every video of the turkey being put in results in an overflow of displaced oil which catches fire.

    The water will 'boil' due the very high oil temp.. but most of these videos seem to fail at 'use the proper amount of oil'.

    1. Re:Why so full? by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      throw an ice cube in any amount of hot oil and you will quickly see how much that shit jumps and bubbles up

    2. Re:Why so full? by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This one failed at "use the proper amount of 'film in the camera'". Why was it cut off while it was still interesting? So lame... There needs to be legal penalties for posting bad videos.

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    3. Re:Why so full? by rtfa-troll · · Score: 3, Interesting

      throw an ice cube in any amount of hot oil and you will quickly see how much that shit jumps and bubbles up

      This is nothing special. If you can get a decent quantity of water under a pan of ignited oil (just pouring it on top works - remember water denser than oil) then you can get a pretty good fireball. I've seen it done with a few tens of grams of oil and a decent water-pistol - that was enough (in the sort of "don't do this at home kids" sort of sense of enough).

      What I'm really curious about is whether this would happen with a normal dry cleaned turkey straightforwardly frozen or if it's extra water added to bulk up the weight by the companies that sell frozen food?

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    4. Re:Why so full? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Normal" and "dry cleaned turkey" don't logically fit, at least in my universe. In fact, I'm having trouble wrapping my brain around a dry cleaned turkey.

      Please don't invite me over to your house next Thanksgiving. Nothing personal.

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    5. Re:Why so full? by rtfa-troll · · Score: 2

      Damnit; Grammar fail. I will read Eats, Shoots & Leaves again as a form of self punishment. I promise.

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    6. Re:Why so full? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      Actually, the chief problem seems to be that people are trying to do this with a deep fryer whose volume is not significantly more than that of the turkey they are trying to cook. Even if the oil level were initially at the lowest level possible such that once the turkey is in, the oil will fully cover the turkey, the top of the oil is still going to be too close to the top of the fryer to be safe. For the size of turkey they were trying to cook, they should have used a fryer with at least 50% taller, and ideally much wider than the one that they were using. An overall increase in volume of the fryer by about a factor of 2 or 3 would probably make it quite safe.

      Problem is, most people don't usually fry turkeys too often, so their fryer is probably big enough for stuff like chicken and such. Which means it's barely bigger than the one here (which is quite large for most people to own by itself, but if it fits the bird (barely), it'll work).

      After all, if you're only doing it once or twice a year, it's hard to justify a pot the size of a 55 gallon drum (especially in the denser populated areas). Especially since the one barely bigger than a turkey "can work".

    7. Re:Why so full? by snakeshands · · Score: 2

      This almost certainly refers to methods of poultry processing; immersion chilling of freshly slaughter poultry has been the rule in the U.S., but air-chilling is becoming more common: http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/apr08/chicken0408.htm

      A traditionally immersion-chilled carcass absorbs a good deal of water; immediately freezing that carcass traps more water in the tissues.

      An air-chilled, or "dry cleaned", bird is much more akin to the result of traditional animal husbandry, and by most accounts yields a superior cooking and dining experience.

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    8. Re:Why so full? by rtfa-troll · · Score: 2

      That's kind of what I was thinking. Why would a frozen turkey contain any more water than a thawed turkey. I had no idea that they put extra water in the frozen ones to jack up the price. Of course, we only buy fresh, (never frozen) turkeys for thanksgiving, and for almost all our meat.

      Okay, so I got curious after this. Given that we are talking about thanksgiving turkeys, so the US, I found the USDA explanation. Summary. No actual water injection. Apparently no glazing like seafood. However 12% or so "retained water" or "absorbed water" should be declared on the label and things like "up to 10% of a Solution" may be used to help with flavour. The poultry its self likely has more than 65% water, but I guess that is normally more bound up with the meat, since it doesn't cause a problem in normal deep frying. The same sheet mentions that freezing damages cells and releases water. This cryogenic freezing sales brochure mentions up to 5% of water being released.

      So, a typical US frozen turkey could be up to 25% extra frozen water by weight and quite likely up to 28% available water when dropped in to the fat. That compares to a "normal dry cleaned" (normal, cleaned, dry) frozen turkey at about 5%.

      I can see we need some serious experiments by an American Slashdotter equipped with a very large back yard appropriate fire equipment and a strong set of safe experimental experience.

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    9. Re:Why so full? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Obviously you don't do much cooking. Frozen products are often covered with a layer of ice from a couple of sources. Major source, warm bird as it is getting frozen, the freezer is a very dry environment drawing moisture from inside the warm meat to the surface where it freezes. Next the movement from the freezer to the fryer takes time and frozen meat will condense moisture from the atmosphere and freeze on it's surface. So upon first insertion you have free water to react with the oil. Specifically water is denser than oil, drops to the bottom of the cooking container where it displaces the oil on the heated surface and vaporises expanding greatly, creating bubbles of steam which rush to the surface.

      Easy solution stick frozen bird in cold oil and the turn the temp up, do not overfill cooking container, put bird in butt first so heated oil can more readily enter the body cavity.

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    10. Re:Why so full? by jamesh · · Score: 3, Funny

      trouble wrapping my brain around a dry cleaned turkey.

      There's your problem. The brain should be stuffed inside the turkey rather than wrapped around it.

  2. finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now how do i sneak this on a plane?

  3. About to start on my own. by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 3, Informative

    Stuffing a non-frozen turkey in a frier that fast will lead to bad things, remember dip it in slowly so any excess water in the turkey boils off without turning the entire thing in to a conflagration.

    Oh yea, never fry in your garage, on a wooden porch, or close to anything that will catch on fire.

    On that note, I have two turkeys on my counter ready to be injected with butter and a nice rub put on them before I fry them. Fully defrosted, no need for a hospital visit.

  4. Better video... by Bomarc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This one by State Farm is better... and it shows the ice in the oil trick!

    1. Re:Better video... by tkohler · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This one by State Farm is better... and it shows the ice in the oil trick!

      Everything is better with Shatner.

  5. Re:Maybe it's just me by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    I can't help thinking that the average Slashdot reader has already watched every episode of Good Eats and knows not to do this already.

    From what I've seen over the years ... such demonstrations don't serve to dissuade Slashdotters from doing something. It's more of a starting point for something to try at home. :-P

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  6. There's something missing. by Minwee · · Score: 2

    I think the last part of the video which explains the science behind this and compares turkey-and-oil-induced BLEVE to similar incidents involving exploding gas tanks and storage facilities.

    Even a dramatic reading by William Shatner would have been more interesting.

  7. Re:Don't use ice to cool the oil by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

    DID ANYONE EVER DO THIS? Think, this oil is to hot, why not dump in some frozen water to cool it down...

    When I was 12 years old I coined "Rob's first law", which states:
    People are generally stupid.
    I have seen no evidence to the contrary in the past over 30 years.

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  8. Re:don't you have ovens? by tchuladdiass · · Score: 3, Informative

    Deep frying a whole turkey makes it come out extremely juicy -- it doesn't have that "fried" flavor or taste. Cooking in the oven gets you a bit dryer turkey. What happens is the hot oil sears the skin, trapping the juices inside. Usually you inject them with a butter based solution, seasoned with various spices, and that gets embedded into the turkey meat. Oh, and when you inject the bird, first figure out which way you are going to position it in the pot, and make sure the injection holes are at the top (try to reuse the same injection site, and with different angles / depths), so that the juice doesn't run out into the oil when cooking.

    And yes, the first time I had seen this done was in Arkansas. But like I said above, it doesn't come out greasy or anything like that.

  9. Re:Err... by bmo · · Score: 4, Informative

    1. You're missing out.
    2. You don't have deep fryers in jolly ol'?
    3. Deep frying is basic cookery.
    4. The turkey comes out juicy and not dried out.
    5. It akes 30-45 minutes.
    6. Crispy turkey skin.
    7. It's safe if you read the instructions and warnings and *pay them heed.*

    You can take your American bashing and shove it.

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  10. Re:don't you have ovens? by fermion · · Score: 2

    Have you tried brining it?

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  11. I learned that the hard way as a teenager. by meldroc · · Score: 5, Informative

    My very first job, I worked at an A&W, and they put me to work at the deep fryer. The procedure there (OSHA would not approve) was to take a big bag of fries out of the freezer, cook some of them, put the fries back in the freezer, and repeat for a few iterations. They freeze-thaw cycles would cause the fries to get covered with ice crystals.

    One particularly frantic dinner rush, I was scrambling to get fries out, and I jammed a whole bunch of ice-covered fries in the deep fryer. Of course, the crystals flashed to steam, and splashed my arm with napalm-hot frying oil. I still have the scars.

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  12. Re:Ruddy Americans...! by Gordonjcp · · Score: 2

    In all seriousness, you can spot a shift in a country's cuisine through history when they begin trading with Scotland. Tempura? Pakora? They happened because some trader said "right, let me show you a thing, first you make some batter from flour and water, okay now dip in in and fry it - yeah, good, isn't it?"

  13. Re:Err... by s0nicfreak · · Score: 2

    I'm female, and I learned no cooking in school. My husband is a little older, and he did learn a bit of cooking. But it was mostly done away with by the time I entered highschool. I don't know if it was because it is sexist or because it means people won't be buying from McDonalds and such. Where will all the future McDonalds workers the schools are churning out go if people aren't buying their food from McDonalds?

  14. Re:You're doing it wrong by batkiwi · · Score: 2

    They know they're doing it wrong, that's the point of the video!

    Many people think that you can use deep frying as a short cut if you forgot to thaw your turkey.

    People are stupid, news at 11!

  15. Re:Don't use ice to cool the oil by demonlapin · · Score: 3, Funny

    The guys who came up with the idea to fry a whole turkey were rednecks. And every good redneck story begins when someone says "Here, hold my beer while I..."

  16. Re:Archimedes would be proud by isilrion · · Score: 2

    ice = more water stuck together

    FYI, ice is less dense than water. That's why it floats.

  17. Re:Archimedes would be proud by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

    That's not the point he was making, what he is actually talking about is surface area vs volume. A block of ice does not disperse when it hits the oil, it sinks toward the bottom as a block, liquid water disperses quickly and may not get a chance to sink as deep as ice. GP speculates this may result in larger bubbles with ice.

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