After Weeks of Trying, UK Cryptographers Fail To Crack WWII Code
An anonymous reader writes "A dead pigeon discovered a few weeks ago in a UK chimney may be able to provide new answers to the secrets of World War II. Unfortunately, British cryptographers at the country's Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) have been unable to crack the code encrypting a message the bird was tasked with sending and say they are confident it cannot be decoded 'without access to the original cryptographic material.'"
Given that the original message looks supiciously like it was encoded with a one time pad, it's really not at all surprising that they can't crack it without the relevant pad. Which was probably destroyed a long time ago.
I just installed windows XP using the first row.
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
My Aunt was a radio communication specialist in the channel islands where they communicated with the underground and later the anti Nazis within the third reich. My Dad was involved in counter espionage within Great Britton. They were both recruited by the Canadian military and then trained by the combined British and Canadian military intelligence division long before the US joined in.
Not only was key info done with one time cipher it also used specialist language. For instance the word pie after decryption might be construed to be to mean supplies. Only the individuals who were taught the language could decode it and no more than a few individual agents sending info from within Germany or France used the same code specific language.
If the pigeon corpse was from D Day then it would have been really early in the landing. As the beach head was secured the code receiving specialist people moved in to undisclosed places in Normandy. Are they absolutely certain the pigeon was from D Day? If not it may have been from other sources as my aunt told me there was some underground agents using them before 1944...Some even in the Dieppe region!
Really, Mr. Ballmer, you need to take some anger management classes.
In the UK, in our authoritarian wisdom, we made it illegal not to provide passwords or decryption to encrypted material.
GCHQ are now well within their rights to arrest the pigeon to learn it's secrets.
You would seem to miss the point. Here's a message encrypted with a one-time pad: WXYZ. Want to brute-force it? OK, try all the permutations of four letters that can exist in the OTP (36^4 of them, if the pad accommodates English letters and digits). Spoiler alert: One of those permutations will yield LOVE. Another will yield HATE. Which one is the correct message?
...One of those permutations will yield LOVE. Another will yield HATE. Which one is the correct message?
Considering this is /. probably: NERD
What if that is not an encrypted message, but the encryption key for a message?
I am not a cryptography expert, but I suppose there would be no way to discern the two right?
If it is the key and not a message, than no amount of decryption effort would matter.
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Neither. The correct message is "BUTT". :)
For all we know 4 or 5 pigeons were released, each with only every 4th or 5th letter of the text, all encoded differently. With that kind of packet loss even three letter agencies would be at a loss
Actually, I'm pretty sure there were two copies of the message sent. I deduce this because of the arabic numeral "2" entered on the form field titled "Number of copies sent". Also, there's the identifier codes for two pigeons on the message. Or didn't you look at the pretty picture in TFA?
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Having "some clues about detecting a successful decoding" doesn't help with a (correctly-used) one-time pad. Every message of the correct length can encode to the same cyphertext, for some one-time pad, so in the absence of the pad the cyphertext contains no information at all about the message except its length.
Just to be quite clear about this: you say "[a] decoding that renders a perfectly structured sentence with proper spelling, and/or recognized jargon could be picked out by computer as a "highly probable content" from all the other gibberish decoding", but *every* perfectly structured sentence of the right length with those properties is a possible decoding.
What did you run twice? The XOR one time pad or the ROT-13?
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... and in this case, sent with a one time pigeon