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Ask Slashdot: Math and Science iOS Apps For Young Kids?

Oyjord writes "I have a very smart and curious 3-year-old daughter. Before anyone tries to derail my query, yes, we get a lot of play time outside with soccer and baseballs, and inside with blocks, Hot Wheels, PlayDoh, etc. However, on the rare occasion that we do sit down with my iPad, I'd like to solicit recommendations for good Math and Science apps for kids. There are hundreds of horribly gender-biased baking apps and Barbie apps for young girls, but they turn my stomach. She has a wonderfully curious mind, and really likes SkyView already, but I feel lost in a sea of pink and Hello Kitty apps."

165 comments

  1. DragonBox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My 3.5 year olds were doing algebra with fractions without realizing it.

    1. Re:DragonBox by janeil · · Score: 1

      I have mod points, and it's just not worth the trouble to move all these worthless 0's down to -1's. Can't you all please just not bother to type such crap?

    2. Re:Dragonbox by Thwyx · · Score: 5, Informative

      I do have personal experience with this one, and came here to recommend this. I've personally seen a 4 year old get an elementary understanding of algebra from this app. Worth every penny.

    3. Re:Dragonbox by zurmikopa · · Score: 1

      I agree. My 2 year old has used this app and (with a good deal of coaching) now has a somewhat intuitive grasp of the idea of canceling things out and other basic algebra concepts. I'm pretty sure he can't explain why it works, but the intuition building has helped his problem solving.

    4. Re:Dragonbox by Pastis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thanks a lot! Our goal is to teach the K-12 math curriculum in 30 hours. DragonBox is our proof of concept. Expect more goodies from us in the future!

    5. Re:Dragonbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll second that. Great app at $6. Once they've mastered the basics it's worth picking up Epic Math Tricks and Mental Maths (but beware of typos in MM).

  2. Newtons gravity by codegen · · Score: 4, Informative

    YOu try to solve mazes by putting blocks in the righ place to let the ball roll down. My nephew has played that game since he was 3.

    --
    Atlas stands on the earth and carries the celestial sphere on his shoulders.
    1. Re:Newtons gravity by fermion · · Score: 3, Insightful
      There are many games that, as she gets older, will make increasing sense to her and teach her basic physics concepts, mostly mechanics. Gravity is one of them, and it is very good, but I don't know if a three year old can play it.

      Games like No, Human, Tesla toy, and even angry birds, might provide the immediate feedback and simply play to encourage a three year old. Angry Birds Space is especially interesting.

      When she becomes older, Osmos and SimplePhysics is very interesting.

      --
      "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
    2. Re:Newtons gravity by codeAlDente · · Score: 1

      Nice suggestions. My three year old loves angry birds, and I think the realistic physics makes it more natural for him predict the consequences of his actions in the context of the game. For teaching him math, right now it's mostly just learning to count, then learning to add.

      --
      He once inserted random mutations into his code, just so he could have the experience of debugging.
  3. Dragonbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Check out Dragonbox. I don't have personal experience, but it has been given good reviews. It's supposedly an innovative way to learn algebra in the form of an iOS/Android/... game.

  4. starfall.com is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have 3 kids (5, almost 4 and 2). All three love starfall. It's a website and not an app...and we use it on a PC instead of an iPad, but it teaches everything from ABCs and reading up to numeric comparisons and spacial reasoning in 3D. A significant amount of the website is free, but the rest is paywalled for like $35/year. We paid last year and renewed this year. Not a moment of regret.

    1. Re:starfall.com is awesome by Thorrablot · · Score: 1

      Actually, there is now an iOS app of Starfall (just the alphabet portion)

      --
      Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. -- James Klass
    2. Re:starfall.com is awesome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely agree. We taught #1 to read with the help of starfall. #1 taught #2 to read with the help of starfall about 2 years later. Of course, kindergarten is very boring for #2 now.

  5. Dragon box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dragon box is worth checking out.

    I do not know the creator(s), but I am impressed with the work.

    1. Re:Dragon box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Created by a norwegian math teacher Jean Baptiste Huyhn (not norwegian name though).

    2. Re:Dragon box by Pastis · · Score: 2

      We (the founders) are French, and based in Norway and France.

  6. Cut the Rope by Kergan · · Score: 1

    While not technically a science app, I've yet to find a kid who didn't like Cut the Rope. The physics engine in it is a nice introduction to the likes of gravity, elasticity, etc.

    Another good game, albeit for when she gets older, is Fat Birds. It puts you in charge of making birds cross a bridge of your making. It's fun for the parents too. (I've an architect friend who miserably failed to 3-star the couple of levels I tossed at him.)

    1. Re:Cut the Rope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cut the Rope is nice and fun yes.

      Where's My Water is even better - LOTS of levels and challenge variations and it can entertain surprisingly large age range

  7. "Gender biased" may be oversimplification by sideslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have young daughters as well, and I have a similar reaction to Barbie dolls and their ilk, primarily because I don't want my daughters (or my son for that matter) to buy into the whole sexualization/objectification of women mindset. However, I don't reflexively avoid gender-targeted toys. Why should boys and girls have to be indistinguishable in their play preferences? What's wrong with the boys deciding that they like Cars and the girls Disney Princesses, as long as their parents are OK with it?

    Don't worry, there are plenty of gender neutral family activities, too. I teach them all to shoot firearms as soon as they're old enough. ;)

    1. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by jamesh · · Score: 1

      I have young daughters as well, and I have a similar reaction to Barbie dolls and their ilk, primarily because I don't want my daughters (or my son for that matter) to buy into the whole sexualization/objectification of women mindset. However, I don't reflexively avoid gender-targeted toys. Why should boys and girls have to be indistinguishable in their play preferences? What's wrong with the boys deciding that they like Cars and the girls Disney Princesses, as long as their parents are OK with it?

      Don't worry, there are plenty of gender neutral family activities, too. I teach them all to shoot firearms as soon as they're old enough. ;)

      Yes I think going too far is just as bad. My daughters loved their barbie DVD's while my son was more into Ben 10, neither of which I really approve of, but as long as they learn to treat others with respect, and never to let their gender define what they can do[1], I think things will be okay. Boys and girls are different and those differences should be celebrated, but should not limit anything they want to do. I've never once heard them say "but you can't do that because your a girl" so hopefully we're on the right track...

      I worry more about shows like Total Drama Island which all the kids really enjoyed but where the stereotype humour might be a bit lost on them...

      [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

    2. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is an oversimplification, I agree. I was frustrated as hell by the negative reviews of Lego Friends when the complaint was too much pink. So the fuck what?

      My 8-and-6-year-old cousins adore them. I spent hundreds on Lego City, Harry Potter, etc. trying to get them into Lego and failed miserably. Around this time last year I had effectively given up. Then January rolled around, Lego Friends came out and thank God. Now not only can they not get enough of Lego Friends, but every past set is now in use. They're building boats, planes, starships, etc. If you think they're limiting themselves to shopping and tea parties because they've got minifigs with tits, you're nuts. They're inventing things, having battles, etc.

      These are girls who were given just as much access to Nerf guns as to dolls. Just as much access to video games as to dress up gear. They run around in dresses, heavily armed. As for Cars and Disney Princesses, they like both. A couple days back they were describing to me the properties of a black hole. For Halloween the 8-year-old went as a dragon-born from Skryim. Gender stereotypes be damned.

      Just let them know they have the option.

    3. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My cousin's daughter is very smart and loves science. She also loves princess stuff.

      It bugs her when she plays a game and she can't choose a female character in a game. My inference is that really kids want to have heroes they can project themselves on.

    4. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An interesting new line of toys I read about a few days ago is called Goldieblox, made by a female engineer who was annoyed by the lack of girl-oriented playthings meant to engage a child's mind. It actually seems pretty cool. From the website: "Goldiblox is a book and a construction set combined. It stars Goldie, a girl inventor, and her crew of motley friends, who build machines to solve problems."
      http://www.goldieblox.com

    5. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      Dolls and action figures are wonderful tool for imagination and exploration of relationships, aka soft skills.

      --
      A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
    6. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      The submitter doesn't seem to get that maybe his daughter will prefer Barbie, Hello kitty, pink stuff and baking apps. There's a reason that stuff is marketed to little girls and it's not because someone made up a magical bias. Someone's been listening a bit too much to his "studies" professor and not enough to the reality around him. Just because he's lost in the pink stuff, doesn't mean she will be. Perhaps consider presenting her with some options and asking her what she's interested in?

      One of my daughters loves pink, won't hardly wear any other color, loves dolls, loves fashion, but also plays games her slightly older brothers like with guns and bad guys because they're her main playmates. I say, "Quit trying to enforce your view of what your daughter _should_ like on her and let her pick her own interests!"

      Anyway, Crayon Physics is a great game for kids learning science. My younger kids will sometimes take regular paper and do crayon physics on it now when they have to sit and wait somewhere.

      --
      The party of stupid and the party of evil get together and do something both stupid and evil, then call it bipartisan.
    7. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by dkf · · Score: 1

      Dolls and action figures are wonderful tool for imagination and exploration of relationships, aka soft skills.

      Yes, but they don't need to be highly gender-specific. A teddy bear will work just as well for those types of skills and encourage imagination as well.

      --
      "Little does he know, but there is no 'I' in 'Idiot'!"
    8. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by misexistentialist · · Score: 1

      Too late, you're already more concerned with them than the boy. This effect will 10x stronger in the other males they meet.

    9. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by sideslash · · Score: 1

      And how, pray tell, do you know that I am "more concerned with them than the boy"?

    10. Re:"Gender biased" may be oversimplification by PiMuNu · · Score: 1

      There is an interesting study where they gave a bunch of monkeys some dolls and diggers. The female monkeys went to play with the dolls, the male monkeys went to play with the diggers [citation needed, maybe someone into developmental psychology has it]... just one of those things...

  8. Re:iPad by siddesu · · Score: 0

    Why? Do iPads come with mandatory sex change surgery?

  9. Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Amazing Alex
    Angry Birds
    Cut the Rope
    Dinopedia
    Isaac Newton's Gravity HD
    Google Earth
    Math Bingo
    Math Drills
    Multiponk
    NASA App HD
    PBS Kids
    Scrabble
    The Elements: A Visual Exploration
    Tiny Wings HD
    TinkerBox HD
    WolframAlpha
    Word Bingo

    1. Re:Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi it's me Anonymous Coward again.

      I just realized the WTF I posted there. I posted several titles that are not math/science related at all. I was just posting all the apps I have right now.

      Scrabble doesn't count, unless you are spelling some "sciency" words for big points
      Word Bingo - same tier of math/science app as Scrabble.
      Angry Birds, Cut the Rope, Tiny Wings HD - They had to simulate gravity so you know they are good though you nothing you coudn't learn playing outside

      Sorry about my flub there.

      Sent from my iPad with iOS 6

  10. ABC Superstar Kids by csumpi · · Score: 1

    My kids love ABC Superstar Kids

    It has fun puzzles, teaches how to draw letters, and you can customize the character.

  11. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you buy one and finally be a man then?

  12. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Only if you come from Android, because those users are complete c**ts and the change to iPad gets rid of that.

  13. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I come from Android all the time. Can't come from the iPad, because the spirit of Steve Jobs keeps the platform clean.

  14. MonkeyMath by digitallife · · Score: 2

    The best I've found is MonkeyMath (for math and numbers). My daughter got it when she was 3 and still loves it, a year later.

    1. Re:MonkeyMath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1. Monkey Math and its predecessor Monkey Preschool Lunchbox (shapes, colors, sizes) are both good for the 2-3 set. The UmiZoomi game isn't bad, though it's a soft market in general. (UmiZoomi is a cartoon starring a trio with "mighty math powers". Better than you'd expect and the kiddos like it. Made by same people who did Blue's Clues.) The "Moofy" patterns game and several other good matching/pattern/analog puzzle games are also out there, though most are just plain quiz format with no story or gameplay.

  15. Bobo Explores Light by digitallife · · Score: 3, Informative

    Bobo Explores Light is an engaging, entertaining and extremely extensive app exploring light and its consequences. Sounds boring or technical, but they've managed to get an amazing amount of content (we forget how much light affects us and how weird it is!) into a very fun package.

  16. My 4.5 year loves the iPad by Thorrablot · · Score: 2
    In fact, she's not a fan of computers that have those old clunky "mice" anymore... Here's the best of the apps we've found:

    Monkey Preschool Lunchbox https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/monkey-preschool-lunchbox/id328205875?mt=8

    Of course, the "Cut the Rope" and "Fruit Ninja" games are good in there "can't lose" modes.

    Starfall app (same as the website)

    PBS.org (warning - essentially streaming video - you need to moderate use of this one!)

    --
    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. -- James Klass
    1. Re:My 4.5 year loves the iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Starfall app (same as the website)

      Yes Starfall is brilliant. Wide variation of activities which allows a child to learn early literacy and measurement in a very fun environment

  17. First Words Animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not First Words, that's not just a different app but also done by a different company. I'm a huge fan of First Words Animals, it's great for teaching letter recognition and early spelling. Then again it sounds as if it may be a bit beneath her.

    Solar Walk is neat for exploring the solar system.

  18. Numbers League by rreay · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine is behind a really well reviewed iPad app called Numbers League. This covers math down to simple addition and subtraction and up to multiplication, division and simple fractions.

    Review: http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/07/the-numbers-league-app-improves-on-a-masterpiece/

    App store link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/numbers-league/id444781544?mt=8&ls=1

    The app is based on a card game with info and online store here: http://www.bentcastle.com/nl.htm

  19. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol!
    pornsharia.com
    orgasm.com
    pornhub.com
    redtube.com
    youporn.com

    Just a few websites off the top of my head that work great in ios, and are free. Porn apps would be convenient, but are hardly necessary. Aren't people around here always saying websites are good enough and making every website into an app is silly? =P

  20. Cato's Hike - A little Programmer's Oddyssey, univ by Hesh · · Score: 1

    Shameless plug but I wrote this game called "Cato's Hike" to teach kids programming on iOS, preferably iPad but works great on the iPhone too. Unlike other programming games for the iPad this one uses cards to teach kids how to program and goes into relatively advanced topics like loops and memory without actually appearing to teach :) they just play! I think 3 is too young but 5-6 is good to start and 10 and higher should be able to finish it :)

    http://hwahba.com/catoshike
    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/catos-hike/id574335479?ls=1&mt=8

  21. Try quixey by leighklotz · · Score: 1

    Try Quixey app search (where I work):

    https://www.quixey.com/search?q=science+games+for+3+year+olds

    Or search for sciency things you might want to do with a three-year old:

    https://www.quixey.com/search?q=identify+flowers
    https://www.quixey.com/search?q=name+animals

  22. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not so much a gender thing, but your kids won't be happy.

    iPhones and iPads are passe, they're for old people.

  23. Get her to help you write one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a way to help them understand the steps to go from having an idea to planning and developing a program I worked my kids recently to put together a simple puzzle app. My daughter (granted, a bit older than 3) did the drawings and everyone helped test and come up with ideas. It's kind of cool that she can point to something on the iPad and say that she was involved. In the end, the kids didn't get involved in the programming... we're still playing with Scratch for that but they did get to see and be involved in the development process.

    The app is "Beamish++" on the iPad and I think it's fun for kids, particularly with the whimsy mode on (an animal gets hidden in the maze of mirrors and when the laser passes over it moos/barks/meows/etc to help you guess where it is).

  24. Re:IOS? by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why IOS?

    Because he's got an iPad.

  25. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you read the ENTIRE EULA?

  26. How about that he already has the iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's asking for iOS app suggestions, not another iOS vs. Android debate. He's clearly chosen already, like it or not. So move on.

    * Although I will say this, how the hell do you define "lukewarm" in your world? Sure, that may be the word to describe the reviews on some tech sites, but any honest analysis of "reception" whether you like the device or not, whether you like Apple's business practices or not, would recall that Apple sold millions in its first three days. It would be aware that the iPad mini is on many of the top ten most wanted gift lists.

    1. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

      The added bonus is that Android tablets are now cheap enough that he can get a usable one for his daughter for under $100.

    2. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Here, Apple is not the only supplier of tablets, not even the most important one."

      Unless you care about trivial things like, oh, making a living.

    3. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Or he can get a really classy one like the Nexus 7 for $200.

      --
      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
    4. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      "Here, Apple is not the only supplier of tablets, not even the most important one."

      Unless you care about trivial things like, oh, making a living.

      So Apple now makes the cheapest tablets?

      --
      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
    5. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Waaahhh, someone on the Internets is thinking about helping his daughter, not about feeding my precious obsession with championing Brand B over Brand A."

    6. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate to tell you this fucker but Slashdot has long since stopped being a Linux/OSS site. Those days and long long gone. Aside from that, your precious site's founder is a fucking Apple user himself! Hahaha! He uses an Apple! It must burn your fanboy ass! LOLZZZZZ!!!!!!onehundredeleven@@@@!!!!
       
      In all seriousness, you're a douchebag.

    7. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      someone on the Internets is thinking about helping his daughter, not about feeding my precious obsession with championing Brand B over Brand A.

      You don't help your kids by introducing them to evil thuggery and telling them it's good because it's shiny.

      --
      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
    8. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's good because it works. It's good because out of the tablets that are current it is the least likely to give your information unwittingly to a third party. It's good because it's part of a suite of technology that Just Works(tm), a true platform.
       
      Fuck you fanboi. I'm spending a three grand on Apple hardware this Christmas. This is on top of the six grand I've spend on them this year. Everyone who touches this loves it and I've even converted a couple users over. Put that in your pipe and smoke it tonight.

    9. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't help anyone by telling them what they have is shit and they should dump it, when it clearly can do what they need it to.

    10. Re:How about that he already has the iPad? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      Everyone who touches this loves it

      The iPad mini? I'd check your facts.

      By the way, what's with the black apple on it, what message is that sending?

      --
      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
  27. Re:Apps are Crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many passions are age inappropriate, you insensitive clod!

  28. You're comment is crap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    OP wrote of all the wonderful things he and his daughter do. He specifically asked not to be questioned about allowing his daughter a little time with a tablet computer. So for all the high ideals you espouse, you come off as a terrible troll.

    Parents cannot be expected to take up, or be in, every second of their child's life. This is unrealistic and insane. He is not denying his daughter his passions, or hers, by allowing her a little time with a tablet computer.

    Besides, this is Slashdot, for all you know mobile computing may be a passion of his.

  29. How more irrelevant could you have been? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Judging a person to be a horrible parent simply because they allow their daughter a little time with a tablet computer is beyond the pale stupid. The man specifically asked the use not be questioned, and listed a few other things he and his daughter does, but you went ahead anyway. You're a troll.

    I would be shocked to discover that his daughter doesn't have access to coloring supplies and pencils. Do you have anything to suggest that he has denied his daughter these things? His question was not about what's the best drawing app, not that a few minutes with one of those would be world ending or harmless in the least. His question was about math and science apps.

    Did he speak about these apps in a manner as to suggest that he wishes his iPad to raise his daughter? He sure as hell did not. He gave no time-frame. For all you know he will give her no more than a few minutes with it and given the care and detail of his writing, I imagine that's just what he intends to do.

    Such black and white extremism as you've displayed in your comment, that's the real hallmark of a horrible parent. Heaven forbid that you be one.

  30. Crayon Physics Deluxe by RealGene · · Score: 1
    --
    Mission: To provide products that consume time and energy as entertainingly as permitted by the laws of thermodynamics.
  31. Wind Tunnel - CFD / Aero visualization app for iOS by ace37 · · Score: 2

    The iOS app Wind Tunnel is a pretty good simplified fluid dynamics solver. It has air entering one side of the screen, exiting the other, and the sides of the screen are free edges. You then draw airfoils or shapes with your fingers and see how the fluid patterns change. You can tweak quite a few parameters. For instance you can change speed, look at pressure and vorticity plots as well as velocity, and introduce particles to see where they go. He spent a lot of time on getting the visualizations to look impressive.

    It's incompressible flow and he said he was forced to sacrificed some exactness (allowing a bit of mass loss vs. the N-S equations in some circumstances) to get the computations to run efficiently on iOS hardware in realtime, so the visualizations are pretty reasonable but the numbers won't be exact. Overall it's a great app with a solid math/science/engineering foundation.

  32. DragonBox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty wonderful to watch your kid pick up symbolic manipulation and basic algebra skills in Dragon Box.
    http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2012/06/dragonbox/all/

  33. PSA! Do not install MacBook Air or Pro Update 2.0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Beware of installing MacBook Air and MacBook Pro Update 2.0.

    The MacBook Air and MacBook Pro Update 2.0 was offered for 2012 models. However, there continue to be reports of issues with the update. Worse, late last week, Apple pulled the support page about the update as well as the download link.

    Some users report issues with video memory as well as with Keychain operation.

    On the VMware Fusion Blog, a post warned that the update may cause virtual machines to stop working when a 3D application is run.

    http://www.zdnet.com/beware-of-installing-macbook-air-and-macbook-pro-update-2-0-7000007820/

  34. He already has an iPad! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    How the hell is he the troll for daring to ask about apps for his daughter? Would you have responded in the same fashion had he asked about Android apps for his daughter? Don't you dare tell me you would have suggested he get the fuck off Slashdot.

    Slashdot is just as much about science and math as modern technology. What better audience on Earth is there other than Slashdot for a question like that one? Consider one that has children, one that has education, one that knows of such technology. Can you think of one, care to name it?

    As for your matter, again, he already has an iPad. He's not looking to buy a new one. So take your Apple is evil ideology and shove it. It's irrelevant. When he comes around asking for a new tablet, take then as an opportunity to espouse the greatness of Android. Until that point, you're a troll. You're derailing the thread for nothing more than your own satisfaction. You should admit it to yourself.

    1. Re:He already has an iPad! by Tough+Love · · Score: 0

      Slashdot is just as much about science and math as modern technology. What better audience on Earth is there other than Slashdot for a question like that one?

      Here you go.

      --
      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
  35. Re:Cato's Hike - A little Programmer's Oddyssey, u by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

    Nice to see that Apple has finally stopped banning programming tutors like that.

  36. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to see a complete separation of church and state here. Hardware should be separate from software. Software should be separate from services.

    I want to watch Nokia movies on my Samsung hardware running Google's Android, and then back them up to DropBox.

    That's how it works - more or less - in the PC space. I don't understand why it doesn't in the tablet and smartphone space? Why would I buy a tablet that only worked with content from one provider? Whether that's Amazon, Microsoft or Apple - it's setting up a nasty little monopoly which will drive up prices and drive down quality.

    I know, I know. The mantra of "It Just Works". I'm mildly sick of having to configure my tablet to talk to my NAS, and then get the TV to talk to both of them. That situation isn't just due to my equipment all coming from different manufacturers - it's mostly due to those manufacturers not implementing open standards.

    http://shkspr.mobi/blog/2012/11/i-dont-want-to-be-part-of-your-fucking-ecosystem/

  37. Solar walk, Scribblenauts, Anatomy for Kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My 3 year old daughter has fun playing with these, they seem to me to be reasonably educational and I don't have to cringe whenever they're being played:

    The biggest surprise was how much she really wanted to type words in Scribblenauts, which is something I assumed would be way beyond her level. She's often frustrated a bit because she really can't read much beyond her own name and a few common things, but she's obsessed with it.

    "This is my body - Anatiomy for kids" is an interesting, free app with nice interactive illustrations covering bones, blood vessels & heart, breathing, nervous system, etc.

    Solar walk is great for finding about the planets and the 3d motion graphics are really fun.

    Not sure how educational it is, but the Sand Game is her current favourite

  38. Mathletics and Into Science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Three years old is a great age to be, both for the parent and the child. Ah, happy memories...

    For my money, particularly at this age, books and "generic" LEGO sets (e.g. the Creator series) are your best bet. For the love of all that is good in the world, steer clear of the "themed" and movie tie-in rubbish, preferably altogether, but at least until she's into double digits :-) And, more generally, avoid at all costs any toy with a "TRY ME!" button on the packaging - it's invariably used to flash lights, make noise, or do some lame action that the child should be doing using his/her imagination. You'll save on batteries and noise, and your child will get more enjoyment out of the toys. But I digress...

    If you're intent on going the apps route, I would recommend "Mathletics Student", which teaches K-12 maths, and when she's older "Into Science". (Disclosure: I work for Mathletics.com, and IntoScience.com is our sister company. The latter is just starting and operates on the web and doesn't have an app out yet; in any case it's aimed at older children. And both products require a paid account to download activities.)

  39. Puzzles,problem solving,strategy, and a pink case by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    Pokemon Red... 'but beware of getting sucked in helping her play it', he said aloud, patiently awaiting White3.

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    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

  40. there are a few gems... by drkoemans · · Score: 1

    I have a boy but in that same age range. I too have been frustrated with the lack of quality apps. Mermaid waters is pretty good with math and matching games, math train is also decent as is superwhy but the best app I've found is Word Wizard. It is the speak and spell you always wanted. Very high quality app. The very best app I've seen is Redshift. Beats all the other star maps hands down. It is pricey but worth every penny. And before anyone gets uptight, no I am not associated with any of the developers in any way.

  41. The best app ever for science and maths by warp_kez · · Score: 0

    It is call: Going to the library!

    Seriously, teach your kids to use their heads not a glorified calculator.

    When they get into the real world, they are not always going to have an iPad or some electronic device to think for them, they will have to use their own heads.

    I have a 2.5yo, the first toy I bought him was a slide rule.

    1. Re:The best app ever for science and maths by queazocotal · · Score: 3

      Slide rules teach lazy approximations.
      Abacus should be every child's first toy!

    2. Re:The best app ever for science and maths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what 'real world' you live in where there isn't always some device around to help you think.

      The real world you grew up and in and the real world you kids will grow up in will be vastly different. Don't cripple them by not letting them learn how to use tools to help them, think, learn and remember details.

    3. Re:The best app ever for science and maths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you serious?

      "When they get into the real world, they are not always going to have an iPad or some electronic device to think for them, they will have to use their own heads."

      Er, welcome to 2012 my friend. Every workplace i have been at (as a professional) in the last few years has exactly that - iPads, computers, and other electronic devices. In fact, most employers will ask for basic competency in use of said devices as part of the interview process.

      The mistake you have made is in saying that the devices are there to think *for* them. No no no - they are but an aide, and the need a skilled human because garbage = garbage out.

      By the way, if your kid was set an astronomy question for homework, went to the library and found the answer in a book, then answered that "yes, pluto is a planet" and was marked wrong by the teacher...... would you argue that the student looked up the information and thus knows how to find answers? Because MY kid would have looked the answer up using one of those electronic devices, and would have gotten either the right or the wrong answer, but she would have demonstrated that she knows how to research and answer just as well as your kid, BUT given that she used a more up to date way of accessing humanity's knowledge store, she would have found that there was a change in the status of Pluto a while ago, and who agrees and disagrees with this and why, and what exactly a planet is, and a hole lot of other interlinked information which a book just cannot give you.

    4. Re:The best app ever for science and maths by robot5x · · Score: 1

      judging by your definition of 'the real world' I'm guessing you're around 96 years old?

      am I right?

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    5. Re:The best app ever for science and maths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boy, I bet your relatives just love your Christmas and birthday gifts they receive from you...
      And I bet your just the life of every party you attend!

    6. Re:The best app ever for science and maths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For many investigations, two significant digits are enough, and so a slide rule is more than adequate.

    7. Re:The best app ever for science and maths by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Approximations are much smarter than precision using a machine

  42. Re:IOS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am so fucking sick of you fucking fanbois having to turn every conversation on it's head so you can fly the flag of your little techno-religious cause. It's just like dealing with a religious zealot, they look for any pause in a conversation to interject their diseased thinking and they'll use any possible fingerhold in the dialog to force their pitons in. It's fucking annoying.
     
    The person owns an iPad. What the fuck is the problem? Stop trying to turn this into another endless iOS vs Android battle. Each has their virtues and I don't give a fucking fuck what you use as long as I don't have to buy it.
     
    Now shut the fuck up.

  43. Re:Cato's Hike - A little Programmer's Oddyssey, u by Hesh · · Score: 1

    The new update will let you share programs too... I hope they don't block that :) fingers crossed!

  44. DragonBox by stonecypher · · Score: 1

    DragonBox is a fascinatingly friendly and effective way to teach symbolic arithmetic to children

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  45. We tried before we purchased by teknosapien · · Score: 1

    My four year old recommended Monster Physics , tinker box, Umi Numbers, Physics Ball. I've noticed that problem solving is becoming second nature in this young mind

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  46. How about get a real computer? by Nivag064 · · Score: 0

    How about get a real computer so she can learn to program?

    You can get one from ZaReason: http://zareason.com/ in the USA and http://zareason.co.nz/ in New Zealand. You are not limited to Ubuntu, you can also get Fedora, and other Linux distributions preloaded.

    The major benefits of Linux is that nothing is hidden from you, and there are plenty of free applications - including those dealing with mathematics and science. Also you don't need to get anti-virus software.

    For beginners programming, I recommend Python - one of many free programming languages. Even if she never wants to write her own application, programming is good for learning mathematics.

    Remember most mobile devices such as Android phones and eBooks are based on Linux - not to mention Linux is also used on servers & supercomputers.

  47. Fashion Math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fashion math is a math game designed for girls. They solve math problems to earn credits that they can use to dress up their doll. I wrote it for my daughters to help them learn math and they really enjoy it. I also made a little money but the big thing was how much it helped my daughters.

  48. Baby Einstein by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get her some old Baby Einstein tapes. It will accomplish the same goal of turning her brain into mush before it can even begin to properly develop.

  49. Subway Shuffle by MtHuurne · · Score: 1

    My nephews want to play Subway Shuffle every time I bring my iPod Touch. It's a train shuffle game, but with the added twist that each train can only move along tracks of its own color. It's probably a bit too complex for a 3 year old, but in one or two years time your daughter would probably be able to solve the simpler levels. The higher levels are quite challenging even for adults.

  50. A couple of things our daughter has loved... by Roogna · · Score: 2

    Namco's "Isaac Newton's Gravity" puzzler, she worked through all 100 of the puzzles over about a one year period, with only the occasional help from me.
    Minecraft PE, which now that she's older she's getting more into the desktop version instead, but when she was younger I could set her up in creative mode, and it would act simply as an infinite lego set for her. (She also adores real legos as well)

    Neither may seem like straight up math or science, but she's picked up some surprisingly well thought out ideas about physics and architecture from both.

    The Montessorrium apps, like Intro to Math (and Intro to Letters) she got a huge amount of use from, which while just basic as the names would imply was good around that age.

    DragonBox+ is awesome and I highly recommend it, even to adults. It's basically a series of algebraic puzzles, using cards that start off not as numbers.

    When she got curious about elements, we picked up the Nova Elements app, which answered her questions at the time pretty well.

    Most of the rest of the items we've picked up for her for the iPad haven't been specifically science or math based, though a lot of book style apps. She's a big fan of Curious George, the Bartleby Buttons book/apps, and anything about DIsney's Cars. The new Reading Rainbow app has been great too, as it came out just as she was really starting to read on her own, so it's given her a lot of material to easily choose from.

  51. Skip the software by mrops · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just something from personal experience. I got my kid bunch of nice learning software for Android. He loved them, played them, learned a lot.

    Then we had our student led parent teacher meeting/conference. Turns out, he doesn't do jack in class because he finds it all too boring. And it is, when he gets to race a car for solving the right question, sticking stuff with glue on paper is rather pale.

    Result... he knows his stuff but is "officially" a C grade student. He is in grade 1 so no worries, however I will skip the software to tame his exitment level.

    1. Re:Skip the software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, IMNSHO you have done exactly the wrong thing. Don't punish your kid for being at a level above where school thinks he should be, do as my father did and explain that like it or not, traditional school is something that you have to do, and if he uses his full potential he will breeze through it and get accolades and trophies without breaking a sweat, and will have time left over to investigate paths that really interest him.

      On another note - "he is officially" a c grade student..." Would you rather he be an official C grade student who is actually very smart and going to be successful in life or an official A grade student who has rote learned his way thorough school? My kids range from A to D but all 3 of them are for the most part the smartest, most popular, most well adjusted kids in their classes.

    2. Re:Skip the software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My kids have the same problem. Already know most of what it being covered in classes and switch off. However, it took nothing more than a 10 minute conversation explaining why they should be aiming for top marks all the time, regardless of how crap the class may be, soon got them back on the 4.0 GPAs.

      If a kid already knows the subject, they have no excuse to not get A or A+.

  52. My 3 year old loves Butterfly Math, Bugs & But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I came across Butterfly Math and Bugs & Buttons through Kindertown and they are both awesome. Try it and see if your kid likes it.

  53. Algebra Touch by mewsenews · · Score: 1

    Algebra Touch is an amazing app that demonstrates how variables work in algebraic equations, highly recommended. Maybe too high level for a 3 year old but it's about as mathy as iOS can get.

  54. Best way to use an iPad for educating your young.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Throw the iPad away and spend some time with your kids. Read Dr. Seuss books to them. Do puzzles together. Play make believe.
    Teach them to use their minds.

  55. So your plan is to literally retard him? by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Then we had our student led parent teacher meeting/conference. Turns out, he doesn't do jack in class because he finds it all too boring.

    You found out how to make learning interesting for your kid, and because he can't do well in what is ignorantly a boring and mediocre environment, your plan is to dumb down his learning until he can be pacified with the rest of the sheep?

    Bad plan. Home school, or find a school that can make things interesting.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:So your plan is to literally retard him? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yes, you definitely seem to be working the wrong way round here. Don't punish the child for being smart, punish the school for being incompetent at dealing with smart kids.

    2. Re:So your plan is to literally retard him? by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then we had our student led parent teacher meeting/conference. Turns out, he doesn't do jack in class because he finds it all too boring.

      You found out how to make learning interesting for your kid, and because he can't do well in what is ignorantly a boring and mediocre environment, your plan is to dumb down his learning until he can be pacified with the rest of the sheep?

      Or maybe to teach his children that in life, there WILL be boring parts, and that's perfectly OK? We've basically gotten to the point where if something's not stimulating, it's not worthwhile to do, which is not only a bad attitude, it's positively dangerous as there are many boring tasks that need doing throughout life (think mundane stuff - chores, boring paperwork and stuff at work, etc., you can get away with a lot by skipping it, but eventually you'll have to pay it back).

      Life is not always fun and interesting. And there's a potential fear of overstimulation (probably that combined with diet may make up a bunch of ADHD cases - if you don't achieve a level of stimulation, people's minds wander).

      Sure the kid's not old enough yet to have much discipline or know about stuff like that, but sometimes boredom IS a wonderful thing that can lead to enhanced creativity.

      Heck, most first time jobs will be pretty boring, repetitive and utterly dull, but it's a way to get some spending money

  56. Simulator, not calculator by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Seriously, teach your kids to use their heads not a glorified calculator.

    Lots of the best software is not a "calculator". It's a simulator, with the huge difference being you get to rapidly change conditions and get a better idea for how things do in fact behave in the real world.

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  57. Nice to see you cought up by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Nice to see that Apple has finally stopped banning programming tutors like that.

    They only banned them for a period of a few months, and I think even that was dropped about two years ago. There have been other programming tools on the iPad for ages now.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    1. Re:Nice to see you cought up by rally2xs · · Score: 1

      Just don't submit to manufacturers who sell you computers and then "ban" things like programming them. I don't buy ANYTHING that starts with "i" because of that nonsense.

  58. Why not python on the iPad? Or other programming. by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Although three is way too young an age to have your mind warped by having whitespace define blocks, you can program in python on an iPad.

    Another option is Codea to learn to code, or the more recent ScriptKit.

    But really three is probably too young for a real coding environment...

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  59. Math Flyer by datandrews · · Score: 1

    How about Shodor's Math Flyer? Perhaps a little too advanced, but then again, maybe not.

  60. Try Lemurs Chemistry by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Out soon is a game that looks like it might be approachable even to a three year old, and to any gender - Lemurs Chemistry.

    It should be out any day now (I didn't work on it but I know some of the people that did).

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  61. Try Ooka Island by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try http://ookaisland.com it's awesome! It's an amazing learning game for kids and is on PC and Mac, kids don't even realize that they are learning, my god niece loves it!

  62. Smarty Pants School by nichachr · · Score: 1

    This is a great letter recognition, word recognition and reading app for that age group that has a great variety of mini games that handle progression, fight boredom. I wish it had math because I think the quality is great.

    Smarty Pants School

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/smarty-pants-school/id403824279?mt=8

  63. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only the iWankers say so, because they MUST use a web site. While I can use apps to my full satisfaction. It is a different world, you know. The words "forever alone" sound cozy, warm and reassuring here.

  64. Re:iPad by siddesu · · Score: 1

    Of course not, it is for the company legal counsel to peruse. I just use the device.

  65. Get the hello kitty apps by iamacat · · Score: 0

    Imagine what would have happened if your mom decided that she has a very artistic and sensitive 3 year old boy and restricted your activities to ONLY knitting and tea sets. I think it would kind of hurt your chances of procreating. Let her be familiar with what her friends are into and what she will still appreciate, despite being smart and curious. Nobody is telling you have to stop with that of course. LunchBox is a good all around puzzle game. Think also of general apps like Garageband for learning music, iPhoto for taking and editing pictures and Google Earth for well learning about Earth.

    1. Re:Get the hello kitty apps by RobertLTux · · Score: 1

      To add to this I would find a wide variety of apps and not worry about the Pink/Barbie factor

      If you can have this convo with a boy wanting to date your daughter in like 10 years you have "won" the Raise a Girl Game

      You: Okay son we need to get a few things clear before you can date my daughter seriously these are the rules

      1 You will come to our door ON TIME for each date
      2 She will have a good time and you will be a Gentleman
      3 She will be back here before %time%
      4 if you decide to date other girls instead of her you will be nice about it

      Do you understand these rules??

      Him: i guess so what happens if i do break one??

      You: well i would suggest running because if my daughter catches you she will break you in small parts and if she doesn't I WILL
      (optional step sort of glance at the firearm/other weapon just sitting there)

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  66. More Crap From the E.U. by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "European crap"?

    From https://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2012/01/25/more-crap-from-the-e-u/

    "Now that the European Union’s member states are flailing around attempting to implement their miserable cookie directive, the European Commission has decided it’s a good time to retard the Internet some more. Today the European Commission will release an already-leaked new version of the Data Protection Directive which firmly establishes a European right to data erasure, or “right to be forgotten.” Article 17 will give EU residents an unprecedented inalienable right to control and delete facts that were once voluntarily communicated by the subject. Moreover, the right to erasure covers all publications of the personal information."

    It's not all bad in the E.U., hence it must be African.

  67. Corvid Apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this is double posted I apologize. Slashdot was trying to tell me I'm not a human. ;)

    I have two patern completion apps Kids Pattern Recognition and Kids Sequences, Counting and Patterns. I have two girls, 3 and 5 and am a female developer, so I get wanting to avoid the pink washing of your daughter. Both my girls like my apps, there are rocket ships and really cute monster aliens that they enjoy naming and describing. www.corvidapps.com

  68. Splash Math app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try our splash math apps. They fir perfectly. Also it is one of the best educational elementary app for kids

  69. Jigsaw + Adhesive Spray + Hardboard + Pictures by cpaglee · · Score: 0

    Children were not originally designed to play with electronic devices. Children prefer objects which they can hold, throw, eat and break. This type of behavior can prove very expensive with an iPad. Better suggestion:

    1. Borrow or buy a jigsaw with a thin blade. A hand jigsaw with a thin blade is okay but try to find a jigsaw with a table:
    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/3430299340.html

    2. Buy a sheet of thin 1/8 inch tempered hardboard (aka high-density fiberboard) or 1/8 inch plywood:
    www.homedepot.com/buy/1-8-in-4-ft-x-8-ft-tempered-hardboard-832777.html
    www.lowes.com/pd_95321-99899-95321_0__?productId=3605348

    3. Buy some spray adhesive:
    www.drillspot.com/products/1348820/3m_45_1025oz_spray_adhesive

    4. Download puzzle templates suitable for your child's age
    https://www.google.com/search?q=puzzle+templates

    5. Find some nice colorful pictures or posters to make into puzzles. Car dealerships often have great car posters for little boys. Highway rest stops or AAA have maps which make great puzzles. Hair salons have plenty of posters of women's hair styles. Doll shops have promotional posters of dolls. Travel agencies have promotional posters of exotic destinations. You get the idea.

    6. Spray adhesive to the back of the poster and glue it on to the 1/8 inch board. Let sit for a while to cure.

    7. Spray adhesive to the back of the puzzle design and glue to the other side of the board

    8. For younger children cut a rectangular border to surround the puzzle and another rectangle to go under the puzzle
    http://www.dinosaurjunction.com/130-46-thickbox/t-rex-wooden-puzzle.jpg

    9. Start cutting according to the puzzle pattern and make toys which your children can pass on to their children and which have been proven for thousands of years not to cause attention deficit disorder.

    10. Store the puzzles in empty boxes you get from a shoe store or cigar shop

    Or you could just spend $7 and order one online:
    http://www.dinosaurjunction.com/400-Shop-for-dinosaur-puzzles
    https://www.google.com/search?q=wooden+jigsaw+puzzles&tbs=p_ord:p&tbm=shop

    Your kids will have plenty of time to play with computers when they grow up. No need to start when they are three.

  70. Feed Me Oil by myxiplx · · Score: 1

    Another physics game. The first levels are easy enough for a young child, and our little girl loves it. With the fans, boards, and other mechanisms its a good introduction to gravity and other forces.

  71. Just a quick heads up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they are bright, make sure you protect them from the school system trying to dumb them down. Also, some things need to work in sequence.
    My son more or less taught himself to read and write with a BBC program "Words and Pictures" approx. 2.5 years old, so by age 3 he was reading from books. The challenge is that the kids may not be ready for comprehending what they pick up - try to stick where possible with the age range until comprehension has caught up.

    And enjoy them - they grow up *way* too fast :)

  72. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Translation: "I'm obsessed with Apple and know I want an iPad, but I've decided to adopt the identity of rad anti-Apple guy who buys kewl Apple clones."

  73. Re:Apple Ecosystem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If New York restaurants are so great, why do people ask locals for recommendations?"

    You nailed it, Sparky.

  74. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're old.

    And boring.

  75. Re:iPad is bad for school. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Here, here! I am so sick of hearing people ask "What's best for my child's upbringing?", when they should be asking "What's best for making epSos-de feel good about my child's upbringing?"

  76. 10monkeys.com by negge · · Score: 1

    There's a website called 10monkeys which is aimed at exactly that age group. The website is designed to work well on an iPad as well.

  77. super 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A bunch of us grown-ups were stealing the iPad from each other just to play that one a few years ago, and behaving all around like 5 year olds.

    So if you'd like your daughter to almost double her age overnight, get her that!

    (besides that, it's a fun little app where you have to drag balloons together to add up to 7. Later levels include negative numbers. Sounds perfect for roughly your daughter's age group to have a go at).

  78. Math & drawing app for iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try TechDraw or TechDraw Free. Could be great introduction to geometry for her.

  79. make her develop problem solving abilities by mostwanted678452056 · · Score: 1

    In my opinion, the best iOS game is COGS. Its a puzzle suitable for all ages... Just play it yourself and let her play once...I am sure she will love it.

  80. Maps! by sootman · · Score: 1

    And/or Google Earth. My little guy loves both, even more now that both have 3D stuff. Entertaining and educational on many levels. At the most basic, it's just plain fun to spin and push things around.

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  81. Math & Match by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A variant of Memory which use math. See www.q-x-innovation.com

  82. DragonBox from WeWantToKnow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DragonBox, The algebra game from WeWantToKnow, won the "Best in show" at the International Serious Game Award in Los Angeles in August. The game kicked out AngryBirds as the most sold app in any category when testlaunched in Norway. Best for kids that are 6 years +. 80 % of the kids learned to solve equations after only 2 hours of playing the game

  83. A few good app recommendations+ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what if you feel lost in a sea of pink. Are you trying to turn her into a boy? Girls like pink. Do you care more about what you are happy with or she? These Barbie apps etc still teach her, however My kids uses Team Umi Zoomi and Dora for math and stuff and Winni the Pooh for reading and writing. Neither of these are gender based.

  84. My 3yr old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My 3rd child turns 3 today!

    Here are some educational games he likes:
    MonkeyMath
    Letter School
    Flow

    As far as teaching him math, we are using Singapore Math curriculum, so at his age we do geometric puzzles and counting. But he is coming up with correct answers to the puzzles in MonkeyMath, so I think he learned addition from that game.

    Because of Letter School, he recognizes and can write most of the alphabet. But he reads letters in a word in random order, always putting E first because its the first letter in his name.

    LetterSchool doesn't fit in the science category, but logic and reasoning are the foundations of math. I think recognizing symbols and patterns and associating them with ideas is a big step for a kid, and develops his reasoning abilities. So I think LetterSchool is relevant.

  85. Re:PSA! Do not install MacBook Air or Pro Update 2 by osssmkatz · · Score: 1

    Have you contacted technical support? Have you gone to an AASP?

  86. Math and Word Bingo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Our kids love these two games and they have done wonders for their basic numeracy. Much recommended.

    I also recommend Little Alchemy, a web based combinatorial game.

  87. Hungry Guppy, Happy Pig, Pit Droids, Flow by arkarumba · · Score: 1

    I have a 4yr and 2yr old girls, so I have read other comments with interest. Will definitely be trying some of those out. I've only used Amazing Alex and agree its a great puzzle for my 4yr old.

    Here are some of my own suggestions.

    Motion Math Hungry Guppy - For very simple addition. You need to join together bubbles holding 1, 2 or 3 dots to make a new bubble matching the number stuck on the side of a cute orange fish, which then swims over and eats the matching bubble and gets bigger and bigger until end of round.

    Happy Pig - Children's Logic Game - fill in missing items in a pattern arrangement - my 4yr old knocked this over in a couple of days but I am happy it served its purpose in that time. It was interesting to see her cognition go from incomprehension to mastery in that short time. Revisits occasionally.

    Pit Droids - A generator spawns different coloured droids in one direction, and matching coloured arrows need to placed on the ground in front of them to turn them towards matching coloured pits. I've enjoyed helping her get started and now she can now do some levels herself. Got it after reading this review http://apps4ikids.com/2012/06/star-wars-pit-droids-surprisingly-educational-puzzler/ which discusses it being a preliminary training for programming.

    Chess Pro With Coach by Christophe Theron - training for strategic thinking - not that my 4yr old is anywhere near that! but the computer can be set really dumb and slowly turned up over the next few years. It graphically suggests good moves and pieces under threat.

    Timmy's Preschool Adventure - Simple pattern/puzzle solving. Animation is a little B grade but still engaging for both 2yr and 4yr old.

    Kid Klok - shows numbers around the circumference for both hours and minutes - each a separate colour matching hour/minute hands and digital clock reading.

    Flow Free - path planning - 4yr old picked it up much faster than I thought she would.

    Team Umizoomi - numbers and simple math in an engaging presentation for both the 2yr and 4yr old

    Bugs and Buttons - lots of cognitive mini-games - 2yr and 4yr both love it.

    ToonTastic - just to round out with a non-science app - yet the decision making learnt from creative play is an important skill. Drag cartoon characters onto a background then record an animation with voice-over by the kids.

  88. Team Umizoomi by domsol · · Score: 1

    My daughter worked all the way through this app on my iPhone when she was 4; If we get an iPad this Xmas, we're getting the Hello Kitty apps first.

    We also have the pencil-n-paper Umizoomi boxes and some of the Hello Kitty workbooks and flashcards; this seems to make the transition to her PK class easier.

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  89. The apple (usually) doesn't fall far from the tree by ABEND · · Score: 1

    If a child is smart then the child's parents are probably smart too.

    You can write your own app to teach your child and your child can help you write it. That's what I did for my son (not that I implying that I'm smart). He was happy to "help" write the app, he is fairly happy to use it, and it's been a great help for him: he's been learning math in spite of the nonsense that's being taught at school.

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  90. Math "Game" for slightly older kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We just released our app "The Digits: Fraction Blast". It's for slightly older kids, (though we tested with kids as young as 4) and it's designed to give an introduction to the concept of fractions.
    The app is more like an interactive show, with an interactive layer over live-action video. The idea is to combine storytelling with the interactions to appeal to different kinds of learners.
    I feel your pain on the gender biased apps. We went through a lot of design iterations to find character designs that could appeal to both genders, but without doing just "Pink" vs "Blue".

  91. Re:iPad by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    Only the iWankers say so, because they MUST use a web site. While I can use apps to my full satisfaction. It is a different world, you know. The words "forever alone" sound cozy, warm and reassuring here.

    Okay, which Androids do you use for "full satisfaction", and where did you get them from - and what else did you catch there.

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  92. When memes collide by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Or maybe to teach his children that in life, there WILL be boring parts,

    And in those boring parts to you make things better or only endure?

    There are enough sheep in the world. Why make another when you know better?

    Life is not always fun and interesting.

    It's at least one of those if you are doing it right.

    Heck, most first time jobs will be pretty boring, repetitive and utterly dull,

    It doesn't have to be. I know better and so should you. My first programming job was very interesting and I learned a ton from it. There is literally nothing on this earth boring if you do not want it to be.

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  93. Numerosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi Oyjord, why don't you try out Numerosity: Play with Math!
    It is free to try out and the first chapter contains a sample level of all the other chapters.
    It starts with basic addition and then it moves on to subtraction, multiplication, division and the order of operations. Each paid chapter has 20 levels each growing in difficulty and teaching new concepts.
    The whole idea of the app is to encourage children to experiment and move the numbers around and discover the rules of maths on their own rather than being spoon-fed the information.

  94. Monster Physics by MojoRilla · · Score: 1

    Both my 4 and 7 year olds love Monster Physics. And by the same author, Stack the States and Stack the Countries are excellent for geography.

  95. Meanwhile at the Apple HQ by robbie73 · · Score: 1
  96. Same problem with son by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a son who turned 3 at the end of September. He's been diagnosed with High Functioning Autism. The good news is, he reads at a 2nd grade level, writes at first grade level, and is currently learning multiplication. The bad news is, he will only wear white, won't look at strangers, and doesn't play with other kids.

    He has his an Android tablet. The learning apps available for Android are a total waste of time. Despite hours of searching, I could never find a single one that was worthwhile. Mostly, he uses his tablet for viewing his favorite YouTube videos. The best learning videos we've found are from Special Kids by TMW Media, Brainy Baby, and something called Mrs. Phipps and Snoothy. However, even that takes a huge amount of time because there is so very very little published for boys. Everything is aimed at girls or contains anti-male overtones.

    Ultimately, my wife and I converted one room of our house to a classroom and do all the teaching ourselves.

  97. Where's my water by si618 · · Score: 1

    Where's my water is good. Fun, problem solving type game.

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  98. Re:iPad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quite a few. Pris, Zhora and Rachael are an awesome threesome, T-X isn't bad at all when reprogrammed properly, Eve and the Robogeisha also give great service. They are also self-cleaning and quite hygienic. What has iOS got that can match them?

  99. tozzle by Niobe · · Score: 1

    Tozzle on the apple store was a hit with my daughter at 1 and 2, possibly a lot bit basic for a 3 year old but try it out. If nothing else she will master it in a couple of weeks and move on to something else. Apart from that my almost 4 yo is onto Angry Birds!

  100. A text editor, drawing/painting, and music by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would recommend:

    A text editor (I like iA Writer) for writing stories. My son and I write them together before bed sometimes.

    A drawing/painting program.

    Music apps. Garage Band is very easy for kids to pick up, and other music apps like Figure and Animoog are a lot of fun.

  101. Re:IOS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We need an "angry" moderation.