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FBI Asked Megaupload To Preserve Pirated Files, Then Used Them Against Dotcom

avxo writes "According to an article on the New Zealand Herald, Kim Dotcom says his team has evidence showing that the Department of Homeland Security served a search warrant on Megaupload in 2010, forcing it to preserve pirated movies. According to Mr. Dotcom, those preserved movies are the center of the latest legal battle. 'When the FBI applied to seize the Megaupload site in 2012, it said the company had failed to delete pirated content and cited the earlier search warrant against the continued existence of 36 of the same 39 files.' He added: '[t]he FBI used the fact the files were still in the account of the ... user to get the warrant to seize our own domains. This is outrageous.'"

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  1. Nowhere fast by ExecutorElassus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's where the FBI's case is going to go. Everything I've read tells me that the FBI, their Australian exponents, and the other parties involved broke too many regs to be able to bring a real case against Megaupload. This is just one more nail in the coffin.

    1. Re:Nowhere fast by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's where the FBI's case is going to go. Everything I've read tells me that the FBI, their Australian exponents, and the other parties involved broke too many regs to be able to bring a real case against Megaupload. This is just one more nail in the coffin.

      Don't you mean NZ? Australia doesn't really have a role here. Which is not to say that the australian security services wouldn't jump at the chance to help the FBI in a case like this.

    2. Re:Nowhere fast by ExecutorElassus · · Score: 5, Funny

      whoops. I got Dotcom mixed up with, uh, Julian Assange (who I believe is an AU citizen, yes?). I'll just go back to nursing this booze now.

    3. Re:Nowhere fast by Mitreya · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's where the FBI's case is going to go. Everything I've read tells me that the FBI, their Australian exponents, and the other parties involved broke too many regs to be able to bring a real case against Megaupload. This is just one more nail in the coffin.

      What makes you think they are trying to bring a real case? Megaupload is gone and buried. Servers are confiscated. Even the legitimate paid users have lost access to the files and are getting no compensation. Mission accomplished

      You think there will be any penalties assessed against anyone once this case predictably falls apart? I wouldn't hold my breath (though here's hoping he will at least sue someone...)

    4. Re:Nowhere fast by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just download LOIC and you're sorted (considered part of the Axis, that is..)

      Anything that requires you to use Mono is certainly Axis-worthy.

      --
      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    5. Re:Nowhere fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you'll find the Australian authorities had nothing to do with it, since New Zealand is a completely separate country to Australia! ;)

      Yes, the ignorance around here is disgraceful. While New Zealand hasn't covered itself in glory here, that pales in insignificance next to Australia's crime of having given Adolf Hitler to the world. Not to mention Arnold Schwarzenegger...

    6. Re:Nowhere fast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      If I read correctly the information on that page (i'm not familiar with the US election founding system), Super PAC for Obama is 7% of total while being 15% of total for Romney, so Obama got in total less donations above 1M than Romney.

      Almost 40% of it's total founding came through small donations under 200$, for Romney that percentage is 10%.

      if you do your homework, do it properly.

  2. And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The goverment bought and paid for by hollywood over the last decade would pull out every illegal dirty trick to get there way once again?

    I'm not shocked. That's normal now.
    Best get used to that kind of shit. This is the path we have chosen. Or someone did...

  3. Re:Actually.. by erroneus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Speculate much? Imaginative speculation anyway.

    No. The content industry has a continuous campaign against internet companies which help to distribute material. The same players have gotten other country's law enforcement to act on their behalf even when what they were doing wasn't actually illegal. Getting the US enforcement agencies (note I did not call them law enforcement... just 'enforcement') to break the law in such an overt way is proof of the power and influence these content providers carry.

    I will not miss them. They are a cancer on progress. Volunteer entertainers are popping up everywhere just to get a million likes instead of a million dollars. They can't compete against that kind of currency.

  4. Newcrime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The trial is the punishment.

  5. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No, over 2000 users uploaded these files. Mega is trying to use the structure of their site where they hashed an upload and only kept one copy of the file to say that because there was only copy and because NinjaVideo had uploaded 36 of these files at some point (because NinjaVideo uploaded thousands if not hundreds of thousands of files), they couldn't delete those files because the order from the DHS instructed them not to. But that's a ridiculous assertion— even if they were told not to delete the files (really they were just told not to delete the NinjaVideo account, so they're using a liberal interpretation to include these files) they had an obligation to prevent the files from being used for further illegal purposes.

    Phrased another way, a court order requiring preservation does not mean Mega is allowed to continue to allow others access to those files and continue to break the law. Those 36 files were accessed, downloaded, and shared illegally after the point at which they were required to be preserved, and access removed under the DMCA.

    Mega cannot use a design component of the site which was done for cost purposes, as a defense against criminal liability.