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Apple Claims New Infringement After Being Ordered To Tell Samsung HTC Secrets
An anonymous reader writes "Ordered to tell Samsung all of the company's HTC secrets, Apple throws a tantrum and adds a bunch of new products to the never-ending list of products Samsung has infringed on. Apple's tantrum stems from a ruling on Thursday that could have a large effect on the Apple lawsuit. The Apple lawsuit, which was filed in February, alleges that Samsung violated Apple patents related to user interface, technology and style. The first decision was found in favor of Apple to the tune of $1 billion, but Samsung is trying to get that ruling thrown out. But as the Apple lawsuit has gone on, the Apple lawsuit has gotten fiercer, and because of a ruling on Thursday, Apple throws a tantrum and is trying to add even more products into the lawsuit."
2000 AD: Apple begins selling its products to hipsters, more than just self-righteous gear nerds.
2012 AD: The hipster mentality takes over Apple entirely. When faced with a court ruling, Apple stamps its feet like a petulant child, lights up an "American Spirit," and talks about how music was cooler back when it was DIY and this court has never heard of that.
Yea; a motherfuckin' gay fish.
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
So they didn't steal ideas from Apple?
Google does search. Their CEO served on Apple's board, and now they're competing with Apple's product.
You don't have to like Jobs or his reaction, but don't act like he was incorrect or irrational.
Google (Eric Schmidt) screwed Apple.
No, it has nothing to do with Android, which is not a company that you can sue, or a competitor that you can compete with. It is an open source software component like Apple WebKit. Samsung is totally and only responsible for the infringement that happens with Samsung devices. Apple really is after Samsung, the giant tech cloner, who is like a hardware Microsoft. Samsung held an iPhone up to the light and used that for a blueprint for their smartphone line. When you copy your #1 competitor's product, you save a ton of money on designers, but you waste it all on lawyers later. That is the way the world works.
Apple has already won. They already got what they wanted, which was to show the process by which a 2008 iPhone 3G became a 2010 Galaxy smartphone, including the paperwork. What that did was it cast suspicion over every hardware maker that created a phone post-iPhone that was in any way influenced by iPhone, which is all of them. Before the Samsung Galaxy, there was this common fiction that everyone in generic tech created that their products were not clones of Apple products, but rather, they were competing products, independently designed and produced, that just happened to be way too much like the Apple products of the previous 2–5 years. Now, when the whole world has been shown a months-long, company-wide paper trail of an iPhone 3G going through a set process to become a Samsung Galaxy, it is like when people finally realized that pro wrestling was not sports, but rather “sports entertainment.”
You can see that Apple won because Samsung and the rest of the generic tech industry have changed their ways. Samsung's new tablet looks like their pre-iPad tablet, even down to the flimsy construction and the stylus. Other companies are hiring designers before they make a product so that they don't have to hire lawyers later. There are generic tech manufacturers complaining that Samsung blew their whole follow-and-copy-Apple business model because now the lights are on all the time.
It doesn't matter anyway. The phone market is going away, replaced by mobile computers. Samsung is still a huge presence in phones, but not in computers. As the ARM-based devices become true PC's, that is an advantage for Apple. Android is not a PC class system. There just is not the software infrastructure there.
Apple already does a ton of stuff for free:
- Apple WebKit, the reason that the World Wide Web even runs on ARM mobiles, as well as other open source projects like Clang, LLVM, CUPS
- ISO MPEG-4 (which is QuickTime)
- iTunes for Windows
- iTunes U
- iBooks Author
- Genius Bar
> Apple has sort of lost its way.
Complete and utter bullshit.
> Apple's biggest asset is its elite image.
Complete and utter bullshit. Their biggest asset is that their products work. That they simply function, out-of-the-box, without assembly, without CS degree, without I-T support help.
> I recall when Apple started lowering the prices of their lower-end computers. In one Mac forum I had visited, one long-time Apple user got disgusted saying "Great! Now *anyone* can be an Apple user..."
Dude, they sell a Mac now for fucking $329 complete, with a 10 hour battery. The video editor for it is $5, and there is one from Avid as well for $5. Their office apps are the best in the world and they are $10 each. iPhoto for iOS is basically Photoshop and it costs $5. How did you fucking miss that? For less than $400, a person can outfit themselves with an iPad mini, a keyboard, and 25 great 3rd party apps and they will want for nothing. That is 45 cents per day over a 2 year lifespan, 10 hours per day on battery, and no hidden costs like anti-virus.
And how did you miss that Wintel systems costs $n to buy and another $n to maintain per year? That means your cost for 3 years of computing is 4x the sticker price. With a Mac, your cost for 3 years of computing is the sticker price. No hidden costs. No anti-virus, not security add-ons, no upgrades to the “real” version of the operating system. And Macs have hundreds of dollars of 3rd party apps built in, for making music, making movies, etc.
The really sad thing you missed is that Apple is not elitist. Apple is the choice of artists who have no fucking money because Apple is the CHEAPEST. The choice of students because Apple is the CHEAPEST. You can buy a Mac for school and you are done. No more costs. You don't have to hire I-T help to get it working. You don't have to take a course. You don't have to come up with $50 on the spot to get viruses cleaned off. For most users, a Windows PC is a lemon car that is always in the shop. If you are a mechanic, you might not notice that, you might do the work yourself. But it is elitist of you to demand that only mechanics can have cheap computing and the rest have to pay consultants through the nose.
So you are full of shit. Tired old harmful, untrue, dogmatic BULLSHIT.
The cost of computing is NOT THE HARDWARE. The cost is the software, the setup, the administration, the training, the downtime. Apple addresses all of that. They sell you the complete package up-front in an honest way, including cheap 3rd party apps and Genius Bar support. Others sell you just the hardware, then they bleed the rest out of you.
I have $400 to spend on a new PC. I'm going to get an iPad mini and a bunch of apps and games, or — what? Pitch me on the non-Apple option and how much cheaper and better it is going to be. Remember, to include apps. I'm going to want a video editor like iMovie or Avid for iOS ($5 each,) multitrack audio editor like GarageBand for iOS ($5,) an office suite like Keynote, Pages, Numbers for iOS ($30,) and let's say 5 casual games like Angry Birds and 5 console games. And I need to know there is somewhere like Genius Bar that I can go if things go wrong and they can get me back up and running. I can get all of that for $400 from Apple, and that gets me setup for at least 2 years of use with no additional costs. Where is the non-elitist option for that from one of Apple's community-oriented competitors who only make computers so as to lower their costs for the user out of the good of their hearts?
Total BS. Climb out of your bubble. Look at the people who were surprised that Romney lost and that is the same as the nerds who were surprised that Windows/Linux generic PC computing lost. The real world has totally and completely moved on from everything that Romney and generic PC's were selling. We have seen all of the scams. Nobody is buying anymore.