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NASA: Curiosity Has Found Plastic On Mars

dsinc writes "Last week Curiosity was able to use its SAM (Sample Analysis at Mars) device to confirm the discovery. A robotic arm with a complex system of Spectral Analysis devices was able to vaporize and identify gasses from the sample, concluding that it is in fact plastic. How plastic formed or ended up on the Martian surface is quite an exciting mystery that sparks many questions. The type of plastic sampled as we know so far can only be formed using petrochemicals, meaning not only that there could possibly be a source of oil on the Red Planet, but that somehow it got turned into plastic. Even more interesting is that oil or petrochemicals used to create this type of plastic are only known to come from ancient fossilized organic materials, such as zooplankton and algae, which geochemical processes convert into oil pointing to the earthshaking evidence that there was once life on mars. 'Right now we have multiple working hypotheses, and each hypothesis makes certain predictions about things like what the spherules are made of and how they are distributed,' said Curiosity's principal investigator, Steve Squyres, of Cornell University. 'Our job as we explore Matijevic Hill in the months ahead will be to make the observations that will let us test all the hypotheses carefully, and find the one that best fits the observations.'" Update: Yes, it's a hoax

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  1. Editors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why doesn't Slashdot have them? Might as well be reader the National Inquirer. It's not April 1.

    1. Re:Editors... by Bradmont · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're right, the linked website seems really fake... it's built to look like the nasa website, but is on a third-party domain. What's more, all the navigation icons actually take you to nasa's website. Has anyone ever actually heard of nasaupdatecenter.us before today?

    2. Re:Editors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The domain was registered on Nov 23. Very suspicious.

    3. Re:Editors... by NFN_NLN · · Score: 3, Informative

      I thought the real announcement was NASA found water and organic matter on venus:
      http://gizmodo.com/5964357/nasa-finds-water-and-organic-matter-in-mercury?tag=astronomy

    4. Re:Editors... by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Seems fake," huh? You mean the renderings of the Mars "face" on the front page didn't throw you off?

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    5. Re:Editors... by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you think that's bad, the slashdot article last week that claimed that NASA was about to announce some big discovery on mars was also fake, or at least really REALLY exaggerated.

      http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/11/27/nasa_mars_discovery_misunderstanding_mission_leader_excited_about_entire.html

      You know whats sad, is the submitter commented that this article was fake before samzenpus moved it to the front page. Apparently some editors don't read the comments either. I'd say it more resembles digg.

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    6. Re:Editors... by SoCalChris · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've been around slashdot for probably at least a decade, and seen some pretty stupid crap here. But seriously, this takes the cake. No one else is reporting anything like this. The picture in the "article" is clearly a bad photoshop of mardi gras beads, and the front page of the linked site has a picture of Chewbacca superimposed on a Martian hill.

      I can maybe see samzenpus thinking that he had a real scoop on a big story, but he should have at least ran it by some of the other people there. Someone there must have at least a semi-functioning brain. Or maybe he could have looked into the domain registration, and seen that the domain was registered a few days ago to the leader of the New Orleans Bigfoot Society.

      Crap like this is a lot of why decent discussion on nerdy things is dying on this site.

    7. Re:Editors... by DragonTHC · · Score: 2

      I honestly thought that Martians left some mardi gras beads laying around. That was my first impression.

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    8. Re:Editors... by Trepidity · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The factor you're looking for is "capitalism". Ever since CmtrTaco retired, Slashdot decisions aren't made based on human intelligence, but on maximizing pageviews.

    9. Re:Editors... by hypnotik · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, I have to say. This is absurd. I've been here since '98, '99. This is the worst I've seen it. Come on, some basic checking would be a start.

      Maybe it's time to auction off my userid.. Though I don't know why anyone would want it. There's just no prestige anymore.

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    10. Re:Editors... by forand · · Score: 2

      Mercury not Venus, but yes that was a legitimate announcement.

    11. Re:Editors... by Jstlook · · Score: 2

      The only reason I'm upset is because Slashdot editors are treating this as a 'Hoax'. It's not. It's crappy journalism reporting on some nutjobs' intellectual porn site as though it were news. What's next, reporting on the Onion press releases?
      I've been here for years, but slashdot getting bought out has really ruined the last toehold on reality and relevance they had.

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    12. Re:Editors... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      "Do the dark materials in the polar deposits consist mostly of organic compounds?"

      Translation: Do the polar bears shit on the ice?

      Only if they're armored.

    13. Re:Editors... by Trep · · Score: 5, Informative

      If this is some kind of joke that I'm missing, then I apologize. But if you are serious...then try googling first. The Russians did this a long time ago. AFAIK, NASA never attempted a lander though. Venera 13, in 1982, lasted about 2 hours before giving up the ghost.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera

    14. Re:Editors... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Informative
    15. Re:Editors... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      venus

      Mercury

    16. Re:Editors... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2

      I'd be very interested to hear about the technology NASA invented that would be capable of landing anything in such an inhospitable environment... or for that matter, simply making it to the surface still intact and somehow managing to communicate this fact to us.

      Lots of landers have operated on the surface of Venus.

    17. Re:Editors... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I sadly concur. /. has become a joke (of its former glory.)

      Let some of us who are karma capped double check the stories OR allow us to post a SUMMARY of all the comments.

    18. Re:Editors... by cyn1c77 · · Score: 2

      You're right, the linked website seems really fake... it's built to look like the nasa website, but is on a third-party domain. What's more, all the navigation icons actually take you to nasa's website. Has anyone ever actually heard of nasaupdatecenter.us before today?

      Looking at the image of the green and purple plastic beads convinced me that it was fake.

      Nothing exposed on the surface is going to stay that color in the unshielded martial atmosphere, even if it dropped off the rover.

    19. Re:Editors... by neyla · · Score: 2

      You could be surprisedd - Venera 7 - all the way back in 1970 successfully landed on the surface of Venus, and transmitted data back for 23 minutes before dying (somewhat prematurely because of a partial parachute-fail during landing)

      Al told, more than a dozen spacecraft has since then returned data after being inside venus atmosphere, and a handful of them has done so after having landed on the surface.

    20. Re:Editors... by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So how did this get posted? Obvious fake is obvious, but whoever created the site could now change it to some spammy malware site and nothing can be done, it's already been linked to by /. and probably dozens of other sites, the fake site is probably top ranked on google now for dozens of search terms. This is not good /., things like this is why after 15 years I don't visit /. as much as I use to, and it's sad a site like reddit has better editors than /.

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    21. Re:Editors... by ByteSlicer · · Score: 3, Informative

      It seems you never saw the cool (or should I say hot) pictures taken by the Soviet landers on Venus, so here you go.
      But yeah, it's extremely hostile. Curiosity most probably wouldn't make it to the surface.

    22. Re:Editors... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Martians have the advantage when it comes to Mardi Gras. They have 3 breasts if I totally recall...

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  2. MARS IS A FAKE! by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    The whole think was nudged into place by Stanley Kubrick.

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    1. Re:MARS IS A FAKE! by rk · · Score: 2

      No. Kubrick put up Jupiter. Paul Verhoeven put Mars up.

  3. Bloody tourists ... by Alain+Williams · · Score: 3, Funny

    dropping litter again. Why can't they take the plastic bags they brought their lunch in home with them!

    1. Re:Bloody tourists ... by sycodon · · Score: 2

      The EPA is scouring Mars, looking for someone to fine.

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  4. Easy to spot a fake like this... by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can tell this is fake is because they messed up there. See, they said "earthshaking" when a legit article would have said "marsshaking", because this, of course, is on mars.

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  5. Huh ... by ryan.onsrc · · Score: 4, Funny

    It appears Martians have yet to ban single-use grocery bags ...

  6. George Carlin, the prophet by ThePhilips · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hereby officially announce George Carlin to be our prophet.

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  7. Obvious question by Bogtha · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Are any parts of Curiosity made from plastic?

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    1. Re:Obvious question by wiedzmin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's what took them so long to confirm the discovery - they were checking to make sure it wasn't a contamination from the rover.

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    2. Re:Obvious question by Algae_94 · · Score: 2

      This story is entirely fake. Just look through the comments for more details on it.

  8. Re:What is the probability? by NemosomeN · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you had read the article, you would have seen the photo, which is several strings of Mardi Gras beads on the Martian surface.

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  9. USA plans invasion by tahii · · Score: 3, Funny

    in 3, 2, 1...

  10. 0.o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm speechless, the implications of this are HUGE.

    1 -- If there is oil on Mars I bet my ass we'll be there in 20 years.
    2 -- If there is _plastic_ on mars we are going to be hard pressed to figure out how it got there, plastics from petrochemicals are not a naturally occurring process. How the hell did it get there?
    3 -- Assuming we figure out how it got there, what implications could it have on our entire view of the universe and where we stand in it.

    Exciting times we live in.

  11. LMAO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    TROLLD HARD

    Slashdot is a joke..

  12. Re:Sample contamination by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 2

    No, it's not contamination. If you read the article, you can clearly see a picture of cheap beads that the hippie chicks that hang around Berkley wear.

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  13. Oil on Mars by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Funny

    Suddenly, the United States will discover terrorists on Mars as well, and state that those terrorists intend to strike us unless we strike them first...

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  14. Check the URL by KermMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm amused how many people overlooked the fact that although all the links on the page go to jpl.nasa.gov, the site itself is fake. Didn't the Mardi Gras beads give it away?

    1. Re:Check the URL by GuldKalle · · Score: 2

      Xavier Jenks
      Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
      admin@nasaupdatecenter.us

      NEWS RELEASE: 2012-420

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    2. Re:Check the URL by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Goddammit. We've been had!

      Nice work, whomever.

      And if you don't believe me, go to the home page.

      Sigh.

      Whois:

      Whois query for nasaupdatecenter.us...

      Results returned from whois.nic.us:

      Domain Name: NASAUPDATECENTER.US
      Sponsoring Registrar: ENOM, INC.

      Registrant Name: Xavier Jenks,
      Registrant Organization: NASA,
      Registrant Address1:PO Box 791633
      Registrant City: Cape Carnival
      Registrant State/Province: FL
      Registrant Postal Code: 666666

      Cape Carnival?

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  15. Maybe it landed on a cheap planet from China by Press2ToContinue · · Score: 2

    Did they get the right Mars? Or did they land on some cheap knock-off planet from China?

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  16. Hoax! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This article posted is almost copied verbatim from http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/pressreleases/20120928a.html, with only a few words changed around. Plus, the css pages link offsite and are broken on that page. Who fell for this?

  17. Hoax by zienth · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hoax. The press release at http://nasaupdatecenter.us/press.html says that Curiosity is at Matijevic Hill, overlooking Endeavour Crater. Curiosity is inside of Gale Crater. Opportunity is at Matijevic Hill. Nasa posts its press releases at nasa.gov sites.

  18. Slashdot has been trolled by johnny+cashed · · Score: 5, Informative

    That isn't a genuine press release. Here is the real release: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/news/whatsnew/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNews&NewsID=1398

  19. FAKE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Domain Name NASAUPDATECENTER.US
    Domain ID D38204419-US
    Sponsoring Registrar ENOM, INC.
    Registrar URL (registration services) whois.enom.com
    Domain Status clientTransferProhibited
    Registrant ID A82B3BEE4769052E
    Registrant Name Xavier Jenks
    Registrant Organization NASA
    Registrant Address1 PO Box 791633
    Registrant City Cape Carnival
    Registrant State/Province FL
    Registrant Postal Code 666666
    Registrant Country United States
    Registrant Country Code US
    Registrant Phone Number +1.5043193013
    Registrant Email admin@nasaupdatecenter.us

    http://www.facebook.com/xavier.jenks -- Head researcher at New Orleans Bigfoot Society.

  20. The Great Pacific Garbage Patch... by Huge_UID · · Score: 2

    ... is larger than we thought.

  21. Fake by Hentes · · Score: 4, Informative

    From NASA:

    The next news conference about the NASA Mars rover Curiosity will be held at 9 a.m. Monday, Dec. 3, in San Francisco at the Fall Meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU).

      Rumors and speculation that there are major new findings from the mission at this early stage are incorrect. The news conference will be an update about first use of the rover's full array of analytical instruments to investigate a drift of sandy soil. One class of substances Curiosity is checking for is organic compounds -- carbon-containing chemicals that can be ingredients for life. At this point in the mission, the instruments on the rover have not detected any definitive evidence of Martian organics.

  22. Position of mars in orbit? by gmuslera · · Score: 2

    Could be April 1st up there

  23. Re:Sample contamination by kaleth · · Score: 2

    Of course it is. I can tell by the pixels.

  24. Bigfoot by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Informative

    I might also point out that "Xavier Jenks" also runs a website about bigfoot.

    But sure, he's totally the kind of reliable source we've come to expect on Slashdot.

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  25. Re:i like the billing address for that site by unkiereamus · · Score: 2
    If you look a little closer:

    Registrant Name Xavier Jenks
    Registrant Organization NASA
    Registrant Address1 PO Box 791633
    Registrant City Cape Carnival
    Registrant State/Province FL
    Registrant Postal Code 666666

    Quite aside from the festive town, there's the postal code, but my favorite bit is Googling for "Xavier Jenks" The third result (the first two are Facebook) is: http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blogofneworleans/archives/2011/06/28/big-foot-real-or-imagined

    Which includes this little nugget:

    Dr. Xavier Jenks, PhD
    Research Team Leader
    New Orleans Bigfoot Society (N.O.B.S.)

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  26. Late-Breaking News: PSYOPS! by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    Laughter and derision swept across our fair red world today as the Council of Elders confirmed the success of an intelligence coup against the green diagonally-tilted controlling intelligences (and their accompanying green spherule-shaped periodic functions) who continue to operate from undisclosed locations on the sinister blue planet.

    K'Breel, Speaker for the Council, spoke thus:

    Today marks another victory in our ongoing psyops campaign against the blueworlders. Renjoice, podmates, at the consternation of our enemies! On the homefront, our forces continue to track and monitor the intruder's activity. Laser-resistance is not the only means we have to defeat the intruder. Late-breaking news indicate great results achieved through our psychological operations division.

    When an elder member of the press corps suggested the psyops campaign in question consisted merely of deceiving "Editing Unit #5" into linking to http://nasaupdatecenter.us/press.html instead of http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/newsroom/pressreleases/20120928a.html, K'Breel had the young reporter's gelsacs slashed, after which the small, rounded particles were first catalyzed into plastic, and upon further heating, reduced to volcanic lapilli.

    (An audio recording of Reporter #54550 screaming "Sorry, samzenpus, you put your foot in it today, I swear to CmdrTaco it wasn't me! No hard feelings! Don't devitrify me, 'bro!" as he was led away to the thermal polymerization chamber, has not been authenticated.)

    1. Re:Late-Breaking News: PSYOPS! by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 2

      More like stories need a "dislike" or mod option: -1 EditorTooLazy

  27. not the why, the end-reult of a broken system by Press2ToContinue · · Score: 3, Interesting

    hah crap like this isn't the reason why, it's the logical conclusion of /.'s no-data-ownership model. it's the emperical evidence that the ship has no rudder.

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  28. Serious decline in editorial quality. by RMingin · · Score: 2

    Wow, unmitigated, unconfirmed, completely fabricated BULLSHIT on the front page of Slashdot?? Maybe things really are done here.

    A quick Google search with any of a number of sections of the fake 'plastics' article turn up the real NASA article talking about iron-rich pellets, but the picture of fucking MARDI GRAS BEADS in the upper right might have been a clue.

    Samzenpus, you should be ashamed.

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  29. Re:How about this clue by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    You're right. I cautiously approached the article because so many others were treating it as true, and even though it seemed ... wildly unlikely ... I wanted some proof, not that it was scientifically unlikely to the point of impossibility, but that it matched the characteristics of a hoax. In a surprisingly short time I found three "hoax" factors: The article is not self-consistent, parts unrelated to the claim are demonstrably untrue, and an original exists from which the article was obviously cut-and-pasted.

    The web page is a beautiful mock-up. It's too bad that the writers didn't spend a little more time on the wordsmithing. Just reading through the text, one gets an idea that something is wrong, even if one doesn't know jack about science.

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  30. That's it for me by Angst+Badger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are times when I have to endure the company of appallingly stupid people, but they all involve either getting paid or public transportation. Slashdot is neither of these, and I am fucking done. When I find myself missing the expert guidance of CmdrTaco, it is well past time to move on.

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    1. Re:That's it for me by Nimey · · Score: 2

      When I find myself missing the expert guidance of CmdrTaco, it is well past time to move on.

      You made me snort spit into my nose.

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  31. Trolled so hard by smg5266 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I was flipping out. Now I feel dumb. My only solace is that Slashdot looks a lot dumber than me.

  32. CmdrTaco by gr8_phk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And now we know why Taco left.

  33. Score:5? Venus is not Mercury by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 3, Informative

    The ice was found on Mercury.

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