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Historians Propose National Park To Preserve Manhattan Project Sites

Hugh Pickens writes writes "William J. Broad writes that a plan now before Congress would create a national park to protect the aging remnants of the atomic bomb project from World War II, including hundreds of buildings and artifacts scattered across New Mexico, Washington and Tennessee — among them the rustic Los Alamos home of Dr. Oppenheimer and his wife, Kitty, and a large Quonset hut, also in New Mexico, where scientists assembled components for the plutonium bomb dropped on Japan. 'It's a way to help educate the next generation,' says Cynthia C. Kelly, president of the Atomic Heritage Foundation, a private group in Washington that helped develop the preservation plan. 'This is a major chapter of American and world history. We should preserve what's left.' Critics have faulted the plan as celebrating a weapon of mass destruction, and have argued that the government should avoid that kind of advocacy. 'At a time when we should be organizing the world toward abolishing nuclear weapons before they abolish us, we are instead indulging in admiration at our cleverness as a species,' says Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich. Historians and federal agencies reply that preservation does not imply moral endorsement, and that the remains of so monumental a project should be saved as a way to encourage comprehension and public discussion. A park would be a commemoration, not a celebration, says Heather McClenahan, director of the Los Alamos Historical Society pointing out there are national parks commemorating slavery, Civil War battles and American Indian massacres. 'It's a chance to say, "Why did we do this? What were the good things that happened? What were the bad? How do we learn lessons from the past? How do we not ever have to use an atomic bomb in warfare again?" '"

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  1. Especially Apt by xevioso · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    There's music in the air
    The sleigh bells are ringing and the carolers are singing
    While the air raid sirens blare

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    The button has been pressed
    The radio just let us know
    That this is not a test

    Everywhere the atom bombs are dropping
    It's the end of all humanity
    No more time for last-minute shopping
    It's time to face your final destiny

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    There's panic in the crowd
    We can dodge debris while we trim the tree
    Underneath the mushroom cloud

    Ronald Reagan:
    Well, the big day is only a few hours away now.
    I'm sure you're all looking forward to it
    as much as we are.

    You might hear some reindeer on your rooftop
    Or Jack Frost on your windowsill
    But if someone's climbing down your chimney
    You better load your gun and shoot to kill

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    And if the radiation level's okay
    I'll go out with you and see all the new
    Mutations on New Year's Day

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    Just seconds left to go
    I'll duck and cover with my Yuletide lover
    Underneath the mistletoe

    It's Christmas at ground zero
    Now the missiles are on their way
    What a crazy fluke, we're gonna get nuked
    On this jolly holiday

    What a crazy fluke, we're gonna get nuked
    On this jolly holiday!

    --Wierd Al Yankovic
    Christmas At Ground Zero

    1. Re:Especially Apt by xevioso · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's weird; I thought I wrote wierd. Weird.

  2. I think it's a good idea by Trolan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But it all depends on the execution. As with any museum/park/etc. how you structure it sets the tone.

    Great example would be German museums dealing with the events surrounding their involvement in the World Wars and the Holocaust. You go into any of those, and while they talk a lot about the Nazi Party, National Socialism, Hitler and the rest, you would be hard pressed to say that anyone would think any of it is an endorsement. Everything I saw really had a tone of: "My God, we screwed the pooch BIGTIME. Let's put this all out here, so maybe people won't let it happen again"

    Granted, the atomic bomb isn't quite as clear of a moral area, since while it did kill many, many people, it also ended the war much earlier than was likely without it, and therefore all the casualties that would have entailed didn't occur. Instead of glorifying a WMD, it can help foster discussion about them, and past them.

    1. Re:I think it's a good idea by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Informative

      Great example would be German museums dealing with the events surrounding their involvement in the World Wars and the Holocaust. You go into any of those, and while they talk a lot about the Nazi Party, National Socialism, Hitler and the rest, you would be hard pressed to say that anyone would think any of it is an endorsement. Everything I saw really had a tone of: "My God, we screwed the pooch BIGTIME. Let's put this all out here, so maybe people won't let it happen again"

      Indeed. I was quite surprised to hear the tour guide at Hitler's mountain chalet above Berchtesgaden...she told it like it was, no beating about the bush. Her sentiment was clearly Nie wieder.

    2. Re:I think it's a good idea by Trolan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Unfortunately when I was there, we didn't have a chance to get out to Dachau, but did go through the Documentation Center in Nuremburg. Exact same thing. No punches pulled, just straight up "Here's what happened, why it happened, and why it should never be allowed to occur again." I was kind of surprised, and very glad to see it just laid out like that. A dark period of human history, and the best way to deal with it is to let it stand on its own.

  3. Re:Only Americans... by Sir_Sri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    arc de triomphe, Trafalgar square, brandenburg gate, etc?

    Whatever you may think of the two bombings in particular lots of countries have killed a lot more people in their wars, and built varying types of monuments. Should the war museums in britain not have lancaster bombers given how they were used to obliterate cities? How about any monument to the royal navy which was basically built to starve continental adversaries into submission?

    For all it's faults the manhattan project was also one of the largest research projects in history, if not the largest, and I think it's important to remember just went into making it, how much money and resources can be spent testing ideas in a desperate hope to find one that works, and a tribute to the people who did the work to make it happen at all. It's important to recognize the consequences of that work too, but it really was tremendous work and genius to realize the potential of uranium and plutonium, good and bad.

  4. Humbling, troubling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For those who've never visited, a tour of the museums at Los Alamos (the town) is incredibly humbling and thought-provoking. Except perhaps for psychopaths, there is nothing celebratory about it. On the contrary, the atmosphere is deeply troubling and anxiety producing. However, I for one would appreciate the opportunity to visit the lab grounds as a national park, to better understand how the Manhattan Project transpired. I believe this is important for humankind to grasp the darker sides of its nature.

  5. Re:Only Americans... by egcagrac0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It shortened the war by years, sparing millions of lives at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives.

    Also, there is a difference between honoring something like this and remembering something like this.

    Go to Dachau, take the tour - the difference between honoring and remembering becomes obvious.

  6. Re:Only Americans... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sooner the Americans come, the better...One hundred million die proudly.
    -- Japanese slogan in the summer of 1945.

    Japan was finished as a warmaking nation, in spite of its four million men still under arms. But...Japan was not going to quit. Despite the fact that she was militarily finished, Japan's leaders were going to fight right on. To not lose "face" was more important than hundreds and hundreds of thousands of lives. And the people concurred, in silence, without protest. To continue was no longer a question of Japanese military thinking, it was an aspect of Japanese culture and psychology.
    -- James Jones, WWII

    We will prepare 10,000 planes to meet the landing of the enemy. We will mobilize every aircraft possible, both training and "special attack" (kamikaze) planes. We will smash one third of the enemy's war potential with this air force at sea. Another third will also be smashed at sea by our warships, human torpedoes and other special weapons. Furthermore, when the enemy actually lands, if we are ready to sacrifice a million men we will be able to inflict an equal number of casualties upon them. If the enemy loses a million men, then the public opinion in America will become inclined towards peace, and Japan will be able to gain peace with comparatively advantageous conditions.
    -- Imperial General HQ army staff officer in July 1945, from Weintraub's "The Last Great Victory"

    "We hated the Japs but nobody had the slightest desire to go there and fight them because the one thing we knew was that we'd all be killed. I mean we really knew it. I never used to think that, I used to say the Japs would never get me. But there was no question about the mainland. How the hell are you going to storm a country where women and children, everybody would be fighting you? Of course we'd have won eventually but I don't think anybody who hasn't actually seen the Japanese fight can have any idea of what it would have cost."
    -- Austin Aria, veteran of the Okinawa campaign

    --
    Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
  7. Re:Only Americans... by formfeed · · Score: 4, Funny

    arc de triomphe, Trafalgar square, brandenburg gate, etc?

    Nothing in comparison.
    Brandenburg Gate: Built to represent peace, so Napoleon could come and visit the city.
    Trafalgar square: built after Napoleon's defeat, to remind the British Nation that French people are funny.
    The Arc de Triomphe: built after Napoleon's victory, to remind the French Nation not to discriminate against short people.