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UN Summit Strikes Climate Deal Promising "Damage Aid" To Poor Nations

Hugh Pickens writes writes "BBC reports that UN climate talks in Doha have closed, with a historic shift in principle agreed to by nearly 200 nations, extending the Kyoto Protocol through 2020 and establishing for the first time that rich nations should move towards compensating poor nations for losses due to climate change. Until now rich nations have agreed to help developing countries to get clean energy and adapt to climate change, but they have stopped short of accepting responsibility for damage caused by climate change elsewhere. 'It is a breakthrough,' says Martin Khor of the South Center — an association of 52 developing nations. 'The term Loss and Damage is in the text — this is a huge step in principle. Next comes the fight for cash.' U.S. negotiators made certain that neither the word 'compensation,' nor any other term connoting legal liability, was used, to avoid opening the floodgates to litigation – instead, the money will be judged as aid. Ronny Jumea, from the Seychelles, told rich nations earlier that discussion of compensation would not have been needed if they had cut emissions earlier. 'We're past the mitigation [emissions cuts] and adaptation eras. We're now right into the era of loss and damage. What's next after that? Destruction?' While the United States has not adopted a comprehensive approach to climate change, the Obama administration has put in place a significant auto emissions reduction program and a plan to regulate carbon dioxide from new power plants. 'What this meeting reinforced is that while this is an important forum, it is not the only one in which progress can and must be made,' says Jennifer Haverkamp, director of the international climate programs at the Environmental Defense Fund. The disconnect between the level of ambition the parties are showing here and what needs to happen to avoid dangerous climate change is profound.'"

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  1. Ah, so there we go.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With this, we see their real purpose.

    Climate change.... Well, it's always changing, so the money will always have to flow. Another unending stream.

    What a shock.

    1. Re:Ah, so there we go.... by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's always, nakedly, been about wealth redistribution.

      Why do you think India and China - the fastest growing (and now largest) emitters of CO2 - were omitted from the original Kyoto accord?

      Oh, there's a pastiche of 'let's save the planet' but then the road to hell has always been paved with what, again?

      There's a reason they so bitterly hate the term ecomarxists....it strikes waaay too close.

      Go ahead mod me down as 'flamebait' and 'troll'. As the 'climate changers' keep telling everyone, truth isn't based on popular opinion.

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    2. Re:Ah, so there we go.... by pete6677 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And by what standard do you judge corruption?

      As a Chicago resident, by the number of Democrats involved.

  2. If they can still print the email by paiute · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear Seychelles,

    We are sincerely sorry that your small island nation has been covered over by the Indian Ocean.

    Attached is a coupon for 10% off any Boeing or Raytheon product. Simply print the coupon and present it at your local dealership to redeem.

    Best wishes,
    The United States of America

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  3. US bribes help stop climate action by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 4, Interesting
  4. Annnnnd.... by HappyCycling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is why people think climate change is just a huge scam masquerading as an environmental cause.

    1. Re:Annnnnd.... by timeOday · · Score: 4, Informative

      Garbage is a different issue.

      Perhaps, since garbage can always be carted away later.

      Maybe a better analogy would be a government that decides not to compensate residents when it builds a dam to make a reservoir out of a valley where people were living.

  5. Re:Get the Koch brothers to pay by rubycodez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    hypocrite. the use of coal and oil fueled western civilization and increased average human lifespan by over two times, Modern material, medicine, health, food, all the blessing of hydrocarbon fuel. you are alive and well fed because of it. without it you would likely be dead already.

    yes, we need to go to something else with little pollution, like well designed nuclear power reactors. but the planet has been made better for humans by fossil fuel