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Altered Immune Cells Help Girl Beat Leukemia

An anonymous reader writes "For decades, one of cancer's most powerful weapons has been to corrupt the human immune system. Finally, researchers in Philadelphia have developed a way to turn that weapon against certain cancers, and potentially open the door to a whole new generation of therapies for all manner of cancers. From the article: 'It is hard to believe, but last spring Emma, then 6, was near death from leukemia. She had relapsed twice after chemotherapy, and doctors had run out of options. Desperate to save her, her parents sought an experimental treatment at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, one that had never before been tried in a child, or in anyone with the type of leukemia Emma had. The experiment, in April, used a disabled form of the virus that causes AIDS to reprogram Emma’s immune system genetically to kill cancer cells.'"

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  1. Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Art+Popp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really; it sounds wonderful, but if Murphy and Pandora had a child, his/her favorite toy would be using lethal viruses to help us combat lethal cancers.

    Using nuclear weapons to plug oil gushers, using attack polar bears to guard your bunny farm, using a scalpel to pick your nose... these ideas will go right some of the time too.

    A link with more detail:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9508895/A-virus-that-kills-cancer-the-cure-thats-waiting-in-the-coldc.html

    1. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by RearNakedChoke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A virus is not lethal. It is merely a vehicle, a means of reprogramming cells. Its hardware. The lethality is in the software.

    2. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Synerg1y · · Score: 2

      The problem is... our immune systems are a lot better equipped to deal with viruses than with cancer. Think about it, to kill cancer, your symptoms are similar to a cold. If this takes off, remember all those years they spent trying to treat it with drugs? They've made some progress, but it's relatively insignificant in comparison to a cure. Your body's body is it's best friend :)

    3. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      using lethal viruses to help us combat lethal cancers.

      Big deal. Lots of things useful things are lethal. Hell, I was injected with a disabled lethal virus a couple weeks ago. Just in time to keep me from being part of this year's flu season. Pretty much every cancer treatment kills things. That's how they work. The goal is to kill the cancer without killing too much of the person with it.

    4. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by omnichad · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's how I always describe chemotherapy to the layman. It's taking just enough poison and hoping that the cancer dies first.

    5. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by MozeeToby · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Your link isn't the same research as what the article is talking about though.

      The article is about removing a patient's stem cells, using neutered HIV to deliver a payload to them that changes the immune system at a genetic level and then reintroducing the stem cells into the patient. The patient's immune system would then be equipped to kill the cancer. Your link discusses infecting patients with a virus that targets cancer cells preferentially, killing a cancer while at the same time giving the patient only mild symptoms.

      On the one had, the article is talking about real, honest to goodness genetic engineering of a living human being which is, quite frankly, science fiction levels of amazing. But it almost universally causes a cytokinetic swarm in the patient as the immune system suddenly knows how to fight massive amounts of what it suddenly sees as infected tissue (actually tumors). The HIV is disabled the same way other viruses are disabled to create vaccines, and even if the patient got HIV somehow that would in fact still be preferable than dying immediately from cancer.

      On the other, your article would indicate a cure that would be essentially zero cost to produce. The side affects are minimal but, and this is the proverbial "but" that is probably killing all research on the topic, you also have a virus that is capable of killing the vast majority of one tissue type (tumor) inside the human body. And that is quite frankly terrifying. Until you can quantify how likely or unlikely the virus is to target a different tissue type and how likely is it that the virus is communicable (or could mutate to become so) you won't be trying it out on anyone.

    6. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by jamesh · · Score: 2

      A virus is not lethal. It is merely a vehicle, a means of reprogramming cells. Its hardware. The lethality is in the software.

      I don't see how you can reach that conclusion. A virus is almost pure software.

    7. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Nyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A virus is not lethal. It is merely a vehicle, a means of reprogramming cells. Its hardware. The lethality is in the software.

      In other words, viruses don't kill people, people kill people.

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    8. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by kwyjibo87 · · Score: 5, Informative

      "[using] a disabled form of the virus that causes AIDS"

      While true, this is a poor way to describe a lentiviral vector, meant to invoke the idea of using HIV to kill cancer in the minds of readers not familiar with modern molecular biology. HIV is a type of virus called a lentivirus, which itself is a type of retrovirus, which means that it takes the RNA genetic code it has packaged in the virion, chemically transforms it into DNA, and integrates this DNA into the DNA of the infected cell. Lentiviral vectors are designed such that they do this part of the viral life cycle, but are engineered to lack the genes necessary to make more viruses, so the integrated virus is dead on arrival.

      In this case, the researchers kept the normal HIV surface receptors so the virus would efficiently target and "infect" T-cells from the patient; normally, lentiviruses are given a generic non-HIV receptor so they can infect any cell type you might be using in your lab experiments. The lentivirus genome contained not the normal viral genes, but a chimeric T-cell receptor designed to stimulate an immune response against CD-19, a surface protein specific to B-cells. Once this chimeric gene is integrated, the T-cells will express it on their cell surface, and stimulate the immune system to target and destroy cells that have CD-19 on them; this kills all the B-cells in the body, both healthy and cancerous. This last point is a problem brought up by TFA, that the patient now essentially has a limited auto-immune disorder as the altered T-cells persist in her body and continue to point them immune system to targeting B-cells, leaving her partially immuno-compromised (which is the funny part about using the "virus that causes AIDS" to do this).

    9. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Tmann72 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not just that, but the Virus's physical form is simply a payload mechanism to inject the virus genetic code into healthy cells. The healthy cell that was infected now becomes a virus factory creating tons of new virus cells until it explodes releasing them into your system. There is a very cut and dry hardware to software paradigm here. If we consider that a virus is nothing but a genetic delivery mechanism it instantly becomes the greatest tool humanity has for this type of work. Nothing we can currently create would be even a fraction as effective.

    10. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Holy crap. Imagine if they could make sexually-transmitted cancer cures?

      Unfortunately, the population of slashdot will STILL be decimated by cancer. But the rest of the world would have a field day!!

    11. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wikipedia's Cancer Immunology article discusses this, going as far as how exactly the immune system goes about dealing with development of cancer cells in the body. It's actually a very interesting read, as Wikipedia puts it in relatively simple terms, if you're not familiar with it at all.

      I am not sure if the goal of this altered immune cells therapy is to activate this process further or equip the immune system to deal with cancer in a whole new way, though. I would imagine it strengthens this existing response, but I'm no expert on it.

    12. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Holy crap. Imagine if they could make sexually-transmitted cancer cures?

      Unfortunately, the population of slashdot will STILL be decimated by cancer. But the rest of the world would have a field day!!

      Your cliche is out of date.

      We're now all getting separated or divorced.

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    13. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's more than a little misleading. The drugs used in chemotherapy are chosen because they preferentially kill fast-growing tissue first, such as hair, the intestinal endothelium (lining), and tumour cells. It's not as simple as taking some arbitrary, nondescript "poison" under the assumption that the cancerous tissue is poorly equipped to handle all toxins; specific mechanisms are chosen to limit the impact that the drugs have on the rest of the body.

      The GP also made a bad comparison since, as the AC also said, inactivated viruses in this form have no replicative ability whatsoever. They're just gene syringes. These same misconceptions arose the last time we discussed retroviral leukaemia treatments.

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    14. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...that is, other than having a significant portion of her immune system amputated.

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    15. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The DNA/RNA that a lethal virus injects into cells kills people. That DNA/RNA doesn't need to be lethal, though, for it to be a virus. It will reprogram the cell, in this case to help the person.

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    16. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by omnichad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I said explaining to the layman. They don't care about those details anyway. Certainly they're not going to just grab some rat poison and self-treat based on what I say. It gets to the point and there's few enough details that they can follow the thought process.

    17. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 2

      Well, its at that point where we send them to Xavier's School for Gifted and hope for the best :)

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    18. Re:Balancing potential deaths with real-today ones by budgenator · · Score: 2

      HIV doesn't have DNA, it's a retrovirus so it's genetic information is carried by RNA instead. Because Human cells understand DNA, the HIV needs to use reverse transcriptase to convert the RNA into single strand DNA

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  2. Are you sure you're a doctor? by kc9jud · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Are you sure you're a doctor? by Guppy · · Score: 4, Informative

      I am not a doctor, but I am a med student. :)

      Historically, our techniques for treating cancer can be categorized into three categories: chemotherapeutics/radiation which attack rapidly dividing cells indiscriminately; "magic bullet" chemotherapeutics which exploit specific quirks of a cancer's biology -- a feature that differentiates it from normal cells (the perfect solution, but far too few such exploits are known); and immuno-therapeutics that utilize the body's own defenses. In practice, many techniques combine some aspects from the different approaches.

      The immuno-therapeutic approach has a long history, beginning with Coley's Toxins, and there are a few cases where a cancer is naturally immunogenic enough for it to work (for instance, using BCG to evoke a response to certain kinds of bladder cancer). It has been hypothesized that the immune system eliminates most abnormal cells before they become cancerous, but the flip-side of this hypothesis, is that abnormal lineages which do become cancers, would only be able to do so because they gained mutations allowing them to evade or suppress that normal defense. In addition, while certain types of cancer increase in frequency in populations with long-term immune suppression (due to AIDS, organ transplant drugs, or some other acquired or congenital condition), many other types of cancer do not -- suggesting that in those cancer types, the immune system's normal tendency to avoid attacking the self, may alone be sufficient to shield them.

      Anyway, what is particularly impressive about this CAR-T (Chimeric Antigen Receptors T-Cell) technique, that has been generating a lot of excitement, is its ability to completely and permanently break immune tolerance -- to the point where it does not need to target some identifiable abnormal feature of the cancer, but can target a completely normal feature of that cancer cell's lineage. In this case, the normal CD-19 receptor is targeted, and results in the entire population of B-Cells being wiped out. The leukemia is a sub-set of this cell population, so it is eliminated as well, with the bonus of a persistent immune response that continually suppresses any survivors. The downside is that the patient is left with no B-Cells to produce antibodies, and thus relies on periodic infusions of IVIG (Intravenous Immunoglobulin, consisting of antibodies pooled from donors) to protect against infection.

    2. Re:Are you sure you're a doctor? by Guppy · · Score: 3, Informative

      What's the end game for this type of treatment

      It's hard to say, but there's much potential here. Next antigen targets on their list include MAGE-A3 (melanomas, and some lung and other cancers), NY-ESO-1 (some testicular and other cancers), and Mesothelin (mesothelioma, and some ovarian and pancreatic cancers).

      It may also be possible to apply this technique to some diseases other than cancer -- AIDS is on the list as well. While HIV normally generates a robust (but ultimately futile) immune response, it may be possible to enhance that normal defense, by using this technique to direct it into a more cell-mediated (as opposed to humoral) response, and also engineering the modfied T-cells to be resistant to HIV infection.

    3. Re:Are you sure you're a doctor? by Guppy · · Score: 2

      Is there some thought that the patient's marrow is going to continue to produce cancerous B-cells? It seems that way because otherwise they'd produce a killer-T-cell with a terminator gene, right?

      The research group involved has stated they would like to try including a self-destruct mechanism in their modified cells, but they're taking it one step at a time. And, it may very well be that the leukemia is being produced by a "cancer stem cell" that escapes targeting by this approach, or that there are surviving leukemia cells present at a low level. We don't know yet.

  3. The world is not changed by timid men. by Picass0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I understand your concerns, every medical breakthrough has involved risk.

    The polio vaccine could have backfired, but it didn't. You and I have grown up without the fear of a disease that plagued every generation up to our parents.

  4. Re:Let's all be honest... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    You really don't understand capitalism do you? Lets all be honest.

    Your point is only valid if there are only very few drug companies and no new ones are allowed to form.

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  5. seen this movie before by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    Will Smith thinks this is a bad idea.

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  6. Knee Jerk by headhot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow there are a lot of people freaking out they are using HIV for this.

    Um, relax, they didn't give the girl HIV, they re-engineered the virus into something new. The virus doesn't replicate in the to host. T-cells removed from the host are exposed to the engineered HIV. The engineered HIV then changes the DNA in the T-cells to allow it to attack cancerous B-cells. The T-cells are then re-injected and do their work. The T-cells continue to replicate, but the engineered HIV is not actually introduced into the body.

    1. Re:Knee Jerk by Kyusaku+Natsume · · Score: 4, Informative

      I would mod you up to 11. The drawback, aside the initial cytokine storm is the complete loss of B-cells. I suppose that they could store unaltered T-cells and return the unaltered T-cells after they confirmed cancer remission, in a tick-tock strategy to let the patient recover their healthy B-cells. HIV is only a vehicle, in the same vein a pill is a vehicle for medicine, nothing else.

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    2. Re:Knee Jerk by Turminder+Xuss · · Score: 4, Informative

      Exactly and thankyou. It's like amputating the B-cells. Not a risk free procedure, the cytokine storm can kill and then the resultant immune deficiency effects must be managed. But a susceptibility to colds is a lot better than leukemia. The treatment targets all B-cells, whether cancerous or not. We are still not identifying and destroying cancerous cells only. That is when words like "cure" might get to be used.

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  7. Re:AIDS vs. Cancer by Nyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It was to me, but I didn't die from aids, nor did anyone I knew.

    My neighbor, who had AIDS, died a week ago.

    While this doesn't matter to you (it's cool.), it does show that AIDS still affects people and others around people with AIDS.

    He ended up with cancer in his bone marrow, was given kemo, but when told he wasn't going to be able to go home again (would require 24 care which he couldn't afford), he chose to stop taking treatments, and died a couple days later. And I don't blame him.

    So even it AIDS virus took 50 years off the timeline to finding a cure for cancer, it doesn't matter to my neighbor, because he's dead regardless. But I think he'd be happy to know that even while AIDS was bad for him, it might be doing some good for others.

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  8. Re:Let's all be honest... by tragedy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While there are problems with the GP's theory, you may not completely be understanding capitalism yourself, at least as it seems to apply to the pharmaceutical industry. For example, there have been many instances of sweetheart deals between drug manufacturers with expiring patents and manufacturers of generics where the original manufacturer has paid the generic manufacturers _not_ to produce generics. As long as the profit margin is high enough on the original and would be low enough on the generics, it's viable. At least, it's viable enough for long enough that, even if you can't say that the industry outright blocks things, it does have a certain... inertia about it.

  9. Re:Let's all be honest... by backslashdot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You realize that it costs insurance companies about half a million dollars to treat a cancer patient? And most of that money goes to all kinds of different companies many of them struggling on low margins making an assortment of drugs, medical services, and other stuff. Now let's say a company comes out with a cure for cancer .. They can charge $100,000 for it as pure profit .. Insurance companies would gladly pay. 10 million people a year get cancer .. That means the profit will be an absolutely insane $1 trillion dollars a year.

    Or forget that .. Steve jobs had cancer and died of it .. All a company that had the cure had to do was call him up and charge him $5 billion cash plus 50% ownership of Apple for the cure.

  10. My mother almost had a similar treatment by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My mother was diagnosed with acute myelodysplastic syndrome in 2006, and the doctors she spoke with talked about this type of treatment. At the time it was not ready for use in humans, however. We did talk for awhile with the doctors about the nature of cancer and this type of treatment.

    Many people are aware that cancer is present in almost all people at several times in their lives. The vast majority of cancers are from genetic defects that the body detects as an alien, and it will attack and destroy the mutated cells just as foreign bacteria or a transplanted organ are. Now, the types of cancer that we talk about and that result in terminal illness is from a mutation that is different enough to be deadly and parasitic to the human body, but not different enough to be detected as different.

    All cells contain markers that act as identification badges. Last I was aware, there were 10 known genetic markers for humans that determine this identity (only six were known in the 1990's, so this is pretty new stuff). Its these markers that are used to find organ and tissue donors. However, even a perfect 10 out of 10 match is not enough to guarantee that foreign tissue will be detected as alien, so we know that our known list of 10 markers is incomplete. This is why perfect matches still face rejection risks.

    The problem then, from a leukemia perspective, is that donor bone marrow will produce white blood cells that see the recipient body as alien, and attack it. That's kind of what you want, since the idea is to kill the cancerous bone marrow, but it's not exactly discriminate about what it will attack. So for leukemia treatment, you don't even want a perfect 10 out of 10 match since that would be counterproductive. Perfect donor bone marrow wouldn't identify the cancer either, and the cancer would relapse.

    What this treatment does is gives doctors a way to tell your body that certain cells are aliens by forcefully altering their DNA. Then the body can just fix itself. That's really what medicine does best: allows the body time to fix itself.

    "How can this possibly work?" you think. "Aren't all cancers different?" Well, it turns out the answer is "sort of". We categorize cancers based on the kind of tissue that is affected, but that's really not accurate. We should categorize it based on exactly what genetic sequence mutated and in exactly what way. Cancer, then, is literally a family of thousands of diseases with very similar symptoms. Many cancer types are, in fact, mutations of the same segment in the same way. However, now that we are able to sequence the DNA of a human, we ought to be able to accurately categorize each person's individual cancer by sequencing healthy and cancerous cells. We can then design a DNA segment which will only work in the DNA sequence of cancerous cells and that will identify the cells as alien to the body. The body will then attack the cancer, and destroy it. We will, literally, paint a target on the cancer cells for the human body to destroy. The mechanism for delivery of this kind of genetic manipulation is already supplied to us by nature in the form of a retrovirus. In this girl's case, the retrovirus that seeks out her cancerous cell type is HIV, which attacks white blood cells.

    This, then, is the most promising path to the cure for cancer. It will not be cured with a single treatment like polio or smallpox, but the method can be applied over and over against every type of cancer.

    My mother was given more traditional treatment with a bone marrow transplant. The best match that could be identified was an 8 out of 10 match. Even so she successfully underwent the transplant and survived a year longer than she was given when diagnosed. She then relapsed, and was beginning her second treatment when she died from a massive stroke caused by all the medications required to treat the disease and the anti-rejection drugs and the side effects of the medications. If she had had this kind of option where doctors could reprogram her immune system to seek and destroy the cancerous bone marrow like it's supposed to instead of having to rely on grafted bone marrow that would attack her healthy tissue as well, she might still be alive today.

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    1. Re:My mother almost had a similar treatment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So for leukemia treatment, you don't even want a perfect 10 out of 10 match since that would be counterproductive. Perfect donor bone marrow wouldn't identify the cancer either, and the cancer would relapse.

      Actually, that's not automatically true.

      My youngest son developed Acute Myelogenous Leukemia when he was 18 months. He underwent chemo for six months and went into remission. Eight months later he relapsed, so the doctors told us that the next step was a bone marrow transplant. To have peace of mind that we were doing all we could to save him, my wife insisted that she and I get tested for donor compatibility even though the odds of a parent being an acceptable donor are infinitesimal. The donor and patient must match on seven of those ten DNA alleles to be a viable match and since a child only gets 50% of his/her DNA from either parent, the chance of matching on seven points is very small. The best chances for matches come from siblings and any one sibling only has a 25% of matching. Our son and his brother weren't an acceptable match so the doctors started a search through the National Bone Marrow registry.

      Until my wife came back as a ten-point match.

      The doctors swore that they must have sent in two vials of my son's blood for testing on accident and insisted on a re-test. She came back a ten-point match again. Blew everyone's mind. It turns out that my wife and I share 5 of those critical DNA alleles and those are the five that I gave to our son. He got the other five that my wife and I don't share from her. The odds against that happening are astronomical. Somewhere in the ancient dim past, a common ancestor sent his/her DNA out into the world and somehow, despite generations of separation, those 5 alleles manifested in both me and my wife. We checked the genealogy and can't find any ancestor closer than one who came over on the Mayflower in the 17th century. So we're talking something like 20 generations of separation minimum.

      Think of it this way--at 20 generations of separation, my wife would only share those five alleles with one man in a million. Imagine that she walked into a stadium full of a million potential mates tied to that common ancestor, and still manages to pick me out of the crowd. Then, the odds of me giving our those five alleles that my wife and I share and her matching him on the other five are 250,000:1. After picking me out of a crowd of a million men, my wife and I would then have to have 250,000 children to guarantee one would manifest those ten alleles. We would have a far better chance of winning the Powerball lottery.

      Long story short--she was the donor. My son has been leukemia-free for three years now and the doctors have no expectation that it will recur. He suffers from minor graft-vs-host disease and has to take cyclosporin to keep his immune system from attacking his own body--so, yes, there are clearly some other clearly critical but as yet unidentified alleles they don't share--but he is otherwise normal. And here's the kicker. Because my wife's immune system is now his immune system, the doctors tell us that she could donate him an organ and he would suffer no rejection issues because his immune system would recognize her tissue as being native and accept it.

      Genetics is a freaking cool science.

  11. Re:AIDS vs. Cancer by reverseengineer · · Score: 2
    HIV isn't the only retrovirus or the only virus that targets T-cells. I will admit that the crisis that AIDS has posed has greatly accelerated research into retroviruses, but the development of retroviruses as gene therapy vectors is only tangentially connected to research on AIDS as a disease.

    AIDS as a pandemic has from the start been as much or more about public health measures as it has virology, and if we had been far more fortunate, HIV would have remained a fearsome but rare curiosity. Research on it might have remained a backwater of the academic world, and yes, the pace of treatments like this might have been slowed, though I strongly doubt by 50 years. When you ask if success against cancer means AIDS could have been "worth it," I believe that we would have had ample opportunity to obtain this knowledge without the cost of thirty million lives.

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