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NCTC Gets Vast Powers To Spy On U.S. Citizens

interval1066 writes "In a breathtaking new move by (another) little-known national security agency, the personal information of all U.S. citizens will be available for casual perusal. The 'National Counterterrorism Center' (I've never heard of this org) may now 'examine the government files of U.S. citizens for possible criminal behavior, even if there is no reason to suspect them.' This is different from past bureaucratic practice (never mind due process) in that a government agency not in the list of agencies approved to to certain things without due process may completely bypass due process and store (for up to 5 years) these records, the organization doesn't need a warrant, or have any kind of oversight of any kind. They will be sifting through these records looking for 'counter-insurgency activity,' supposedly with an eye to prevention. If this doesn't wake you up and chill you to your very bone, not too sure there is anything that will anyway."

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  1. Re:Unconstitutional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasp* AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Really, I wish it were true, but I doubt it. A lot of people will "agree in the name of national security" that they won't fight it.

  2. Do the work! Don't ignore the extreme corruption. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You are giving yourself an excuse. Maybe that is true, but you are ignoring the many, many ways the U.S. government is VERY corrupt. The U.S. financial system steals trillions of dollars. The kill-other-people-and-destroy-property groups associated with the U.S. government have stolen trillions of dollars to kill people in lands most citizens can't find on a map, partly for profit and partly because they are mentally ill.

    Citizens and taxpayers are not even allowed to know the names of all the secret groups that secretly get taxpayer money to do secret things that benefit people who taxpayers are not allowed to know.

    U.S. government corruption is a problem for everyone on the planet, not just U.S. citizens.

    Do the work of stopping corruption in the U.S. government.

  3. Re:Hey, hey gauise... by SternisheFan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember when people were screaming that Bush was the root of all evil? How's that whole Obama thing working out for you.

    It wouldn't matter who's the temporary president anyway. President's come and go. All the big businesses and secret gov't agencies are there long before and long afterwards.

  4. Terrorist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Clearly both you and the op are terrorists.

    There's the rub, isn't it? As long as you call people terrorists, you can do anything to them.

    Blow up buildings? Terrorist.
    Free animals from research facilities? Terrorist.
    Do a web search about bomb-making? Terrorist.
    Say "terrorist" in an airport? Terrorist.
    Run a red light? Terrorist.
    Post a "subversive" comment on Slashdot? Terrorist.
    Read this message? Terrorist!!!

    1. Re:Terrorist! by dan828 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent which will reach to himself. - Thomas Paine