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27 Reported Killed In Connecticut Elementary School Shooting
Several readers sent word of a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut. According to most reports, 27 people are dead, including 18 children. The alleged shooter is dead, a man in his 20s. He was armed with multiple weapons and may have worn a bulletproof vest. According to CBS, "It is unclear if there was more than one gunman at the school. Miller reports authorities have an individual in custody who investigators said may be a possible second shooter." (Investigators now say the person being questioned is not a suspect.) One student was quoted as saying, "I was in the gym and I heard a loud, like seven loud booms, and the gym teachers told us to go in the corner, so we all huddled. And I kept hearing these booming noises. And we all started crying." Another, 8 years old, said, "I saw some of the bullets going down the hall and then a teacher pulled me into her classroom."
The gun lobby is untouchable in America.
Well, it wasn't the gun and bullets that killed these kids... Oh, wait, yes, yes it was.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
No. The gunman killed the kids. The gun and bullets were simply the tools used. Should all computers be banned because hackers use them to hack?
It's T-3 hours from a tragic killing of 18 kids and you're already throwing politics into this discussion? Please. If 18 kids were stabbed would you be talking about banning kitchen knives? No amount of written law is going to prevent psychopaths who want to kill innocent kids.
Your political trolling makes me sicker than this news story.
how is this news for nerds ???
Praying ...
Praying sure helped preventing this tragedy, no? Or was Jesus too busy somewhere else?
No, the purpose is not merely to shoot, but to kill. If you use the gun for target practice, you are misusing it.
I can paint a car and put it on a building as a sign for a drive-through restaurant. If I do that, I'm misusing the car.
The facts are that gun laws make it more difficult to criminals to get guns, making these things less frequent.
Citation: Europe.
LESS GUNS = LESS GUN VIOLENCE
It's quite simple.
See: EVERY FUCKING COUNTRY WITH STRICT GUN LAWS.
Also, look at the decrease in crime in Chicago since 1982. When the started enacting tough gun laws.
People make police, but we can't make good policy buy ignoring data.
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You are simply indoctrinated by the gun lobby that Europe is wrong. There is NO shortage of weapons here in Europe. That is a blatant lie that your gun lobby tells you.
However, what we don't have here is weapons aimed primarily at killing humans - like pistols and automatic weapons.
Europe is a lumpy place. I am sorry to have to tell you this (well no, actually, I think it's hilarious) but some of the world's finest makers and manufacturers of guns intended specifically for killing humans are in Europe.
Now granted, here in the USA we do more volume than most of those guys, because that's what we do in the USA, bigger shinier faster and more of it. We used to do better at a lot of things, but we figured out that's not the way to maximize profit.
You can even actually have a fully automatic assault rifle at home - but you have to join the voluntary armed forces.
Yeah, I'm not so very excited about policies which pad out the armed forces.
This system works and take out the crackpots.
Well, in the USA we enlist crackpots.
Selling pistol to anyone who wishes to have one doesn't.
Sure, I'll agree with that readily enough. But that's not how it actually works now, at least, not by law. Changing the laws, therefore, won't stop that; that's already how they work. It may, of course, mitigate the problem, so that this happens less, but perhaps instead we could change our society away from one based on suffering and unhappiness. That would mostly require involvement on the part of the populace, which has been trained to be as fat, dumb and happy as possible, which is why it hasn't happened yet. Let them get a little thinner, though...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
No. The absurdity is in conflating laws that criminalize owning a particular thing with laws that victimize others. Victimizing others generally is the sort of thing that is always wrong and harmful rather than just wrong and harmful in a vanishingly small (but spectacular) number of cases.
There is no logic in it. You might as well ban cars and backyard pools next. You will get much more mileage out of either of those.
This "ban them" meme is just the result of a what in a movie would be some hysterical female character screaming at the male lead "do something". Then he goes and does something stupid just be seen "doing something".
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
There's a huge number of comments on this story. Over 2000 so far. And the majority seem to be by the pro-gun lobby.
Right after a massacre.
It's like cockroaches scuttling around. They make me sick.