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The World's Fastest-Growing Cause of Death Is Pollution From Car Exhaust

pigrabbitbear writes "Cars, once again, are killing us. They're killing us in crashes and accidents, yes, and they're encouraging us to grow obese and then killing us a little more slowly. But, more than ever before, they're killing us with their pollution. Particulate air pollution, along with obesity, is now the two fastest-growing causes of death in the world, according to a new study published in the Lancet. The study found that in 2010, 3.2 million people died prematurely from the air pollution – particularly the sooty kind that spews from the exhaust pipes of cars and trucks. And of those untimely deaths, 2.1 million were in Asia, where a boom in car use has choked the streets of India and China's fast-expanding cities with smog."

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  1. I knew Ford Prefect was correct! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cars want to be dominant form of intelligent life on the planet!

    Just as soon as they get the bugs out of the in-dash entertainment systems, we're toast!

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    1. Re:I knew Ford Prefect was correct! by Jetra · · Score: 3, Funny

      Damn, and here I thought Cars was just a kids movie. Who'd have thought it was actually a vision of the future?

    2. Re:I knew Ford Prefect was correct! by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait, which book was that? I don't recall Ford saying anything like that.

      As to the actual topic at hand, TFS reads... well... not too intelligently, starting with the headline "The World's Fastest-Growing Cause of Death Is Pollution From Car Exhaust". Uh, CAR exhaust? What about the busses, trucks, boats, airplanes, and other internal combustion vehicles? Id wager that eighteen wheeler pollutes more than my car, and I'd bet the farm a B-52 does.

      "Cars, once again, are killing us."

      Uh, they ever stopped?

      "and they're encouraging us to grow obese and then killing us a little more slowly"

      Cars have been around for over a hundred years. So why is it only now that people are getting fat? You think it might not be the cars we've been riding in every day of our lives but instead the fact that everything you eat has HFCS in it, and that what was once a large soda at McDonald's is now a small soda? Or that portion sizes in every damned restaraunt I've seen have likewise skyrocketed? Nah, it must be the cars that made you (but not your dad or grandpa who also had cars all their lives) fat.

      "But, more than ever before, they're killing us with their pollution"

      Bullshit. Cars don't pollute at all when compared to cars 50 years ago that ran on leaded gas and had no catylitic converters or other emissions controls. What comparitively "little" they do pollute is only compounded by the numer of them worldwide.

      And guess what? Pollution in Hong Kong doesn't affect my health at all. My environment is VASTLY cleaner than it was 50 years ago when I was ten, before the EPA, back when rivers caught fire and you couldn't drive past Monsanto with the windows down.

      "Particulate air pollution, along with obesity, is now the two fastest-growing causes of death in the world, according to a new study published in the Lancet."

      That's because when they were third world, they were dying from disentery and TB and their countries had no cars at all.

      They're not killing us, they're killing Indians and Chinese and other newly industrialized people. I'd say it's a net win for the world. I'd much rather die of a heart attack at age 50 than die of starvation at age 70.

  2. Not just cars by ickleberry · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In Asia there are a lot of old 2-stroke powered vehicles about, each one of them pumps out up to 50x more pollutant than a relatively new car. Combined with heavy traffic means lots of them idling in the street at any one time. Many of these engines are only a couple of horsepower and cost only a few $100 to replace with a new 4-stroke model but people don't have this kind of money to spare so they are stuck with these old polluting engines.

    Back in the time before carbon offsetting was dismissed as 'buying indulgences' one of the things offsetting companies spent money on was buying 4-stroke petrol engines (or less polluting 2-strokes) to put the old 2-stroke engines out of circulation.

    1. Re:Not just cars by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Because of all the pollution, China is pushing electric hard.
      They've failed to meet their sales targets so far, but the Chinese government has shown it will burn money to achieve long term goals.

      And since battery technology is the biggest obstacle to lower prices, a Chinese company is buying battery maker A123 Systems.

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  3. Why? by drainbramage · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is is because of the accent?

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  4. Because we are no longer killed by other things by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From The Lancet article:

    Interpretation Worldwide, the contribution of different risk factors to disease burden has changed substantially, with a shift away from risks for communicable diseases in children towards those for non-communicable diseases in adults. These changes are related to the ageing population, decreased mortality among children younger than 5 years, changes in cause-of-death composition, and changes in risk factor exposures. New evidence has led to changes in the magnitude of key risks including unimproved water and sanitation, vitamin A and zinc deficiencies, and ambient particulate matter pollution. The extent to which the epidemiological shift has occurred and what the leading risks currently are varies greatly across regions. In much of sub-Saharan Africa, the leading risks are still those associated with poverty and those that affect children.

    So we are just moving from underdeveloped causes of death, up to luxury causes of death . . .

    Funding Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

    I blame Windows, as a new leading cause of death . . .

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  5. Re:Industrialization is quickly coming by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ..to 2 billion people when you consider India + China. That means automobile transportation is quickly becoming NORMAL in those areas. That means HORRENDOUS smog problems for the next 4-6 decades in those areas.

    Sure, many Chinese and Indians are becoming "middle class" and thus can purchase automobiles.

    But, like Europeans (in contrast to Americans) , these societies are also embracing real, workable, and efficient public transportation.

    Just because you can't pry a fat American out of a car even to walk a block or two, doesn't mean that's how most of the world's population approaches transportation.

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  6. Re:And I'm the God Damned Easter Bunny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or maybe you're thinking of "modern cars available for sale in the USA" and not "modern cars." Chinese cars are known to be dangerous garbage in every way, and this article specifically mentions the increase in Asia.

  7. Re:More congestion = more pollution by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because evidence indicates that roadway expansions do not reduce congestion, but increase it in the medium term: study. You know what reduced congestion in my city? Mass transit. They put in a train and more buses, and the congestion in the area dropped substantially.

  8. Re:So ban fatties from driving... by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd guess only about half our population actually own one of their own anyways.

    I'm guessing you don't live in the US?!?

    Geez, most families I know, have pretty much one car per person old enough to drive in the home.

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  9. If you've ever been to China by Andy+Prough · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you'll know its the older vehicles with the 2-stroke engines and zero emission controls that belch out the black smoke all over the place.

  10. Re:More congestion = more pollution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because by the time you get done with all the intergovernmental squabbling, environmental impact studies, lawsuits, protests, community meetings, and court orders the new road can't handle the traffic anymore, because the demand has increased past what it was designed to carry decades ago.

    Example: rebuilding the bridge between Portland, OR and Vancouver, WA. They've spent over a million dollars on nothing but planning and meetings and draft EIS paperwork, and they are still no closer to even moving a shovelful of dirt. The City of Portland won't move unless there's an extra $1B of light rail that Vancouver doesn't want, and doesn't want to pay for. Vancouver won't move unless the bridge is toll-free like the existing span. The Coast Guard won't let them build unless it's X feet above the Columbia River so that ships can get through, but the FAA wants the overall bridge height to be under X feet due to the flight paths of Pearson Field which is a mile or less away, giving the engineers and architects all of 70 vertical feet to house the superstructure, roadway deck, and lighting. Portland wants an "iconic" (read: expensive) bridge design, where Vancouver just wants a bridge that Clark County residents can get across to be to work on time. Greenies want to cover the whole thing with a "bioroof" to try to make an interstate highway somehow carbon neutral, and add a shedload of cost, as well as eat valuable volume from the z-height allotment discussed above. Etc. etc.

    They've been "planning" for 4 years now, and the cost just keeps going up, while the same obsolete crumbling infrastructure just keeps clogging up for more hours per day.

  11. Re:More congestion = more pollution by RobbieCrash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exactly, stop driving and get on the fucking bus or train. Less cars is the solution, not more roads.

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  12. As a cyclist: cars don't kill, drivers do by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Informative

    I see this all the time:

    "Cars kill ______" or "car strikes _______"

    Cars are inanimate objects. DRIVERS kill _____, drivers strike _____.

    There was a UK traffic study that found that police cited driver error in something like 90% of crashes. Topmost cause: failure to use due care.

    People are more concerned about having a coffee, texting, changing the radio station, or just tuning out and running on autopilot because there's no consequences. Crash and your insurance pays for the damages+injuries; the most you'll get in the US, unless your conduct is completely egregious, is a civil fine and a hike in your insurance rate.

    For fuck's sakes, we have insurance companies here that advertise "accident forgiveness" policies!

    Until an at-fault collision involves having to appear in criminal court, people will keep right on smashing into things - other cars, stationary objects, and human beings.

    1. Re:As a cyclist: cars don't kill, drivers do by amorsen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      like trying to pass a truck on the right side while its making a right turn

      That is the fault of the lorry driver. He should have used his mirrors.

      Yes, it's a stupid thing for the cyclist to do, but the lorry driver is still at fault. And don't give me crap about him not being able to see. That problem has been solved ages ago with mirrors. If the driver cannot figure out how to adjust the mirrors, well then he shouldn't have a license.

      Denmark, which is rather full of cyclists, managed a whole year with zero fatalities involving right-turning lorries or buses. Alas, EU regulations mean that most lorry drivers are from Eastern Europe now, and so the murder spree has resumed.

      Also notice that there are practically never any right-turning accidents involving buses. You would think that since most buses are in cities, it would be a common thing. Yet it almost never happens. Again, that points to the vast majority of right-turning accidents being entirely avoidable and the fault of the driver.

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  13. Re:And I'm the God Damned Easter Bunny by pr0t0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ever been out of the United States, Floppy? Try Mexico City, Mexico; Ahwaz, Iran; or Linfen, China. Those cities will turn your freshly showered pure-white cottontail black before the end of the day! Regrettably, many countries do not have the same type of increasing restrictions on auto-exhaust and factory emissions that the United States requires to better air quality. Further, this is as much about heat as it is about exhaust. Heat traps airborne pollutants. Heat combined with growing populations, massive urbanization and industrialization, and ever more cars on the road; yeah it's going to lead to more deaths due to respiratory problems, cancers, and other diseases.

    It's a shock to no one but you, Bucky.

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  14. Re:And I'm the God Damned Easter Bunny by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    deaths from car exhaust are probably at their historical low

    Considering history goes back well before the invention of the automobile, or even of the internal combustion or steam engines, I'd say that it's guaranteed that deaths from car exhaust are not at a historical low.

  15. Re:Industrialization is quickly coming by BMOC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Dear god, why not leave your naked prejudice inside before it leaves your hands? I promise I might take you a little more seriously if you can stop hating people just because of their lifestyle.

    If Americans were still fat, but used all electric cars instead of public transportation, would you still hate them so much? Oh wait, I shouldn't ask, you'll probably just find another reason to hate them.

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  16. Re:Industrialization is quickly coming by jimbolauski · · Score: 4, Informative

    The average American one way car commute is 23 minutes the average one way public transit commute is 53. Only in large cities is the car commute longer and public transit commute shorter. The US unlike many European countries is far less dense making public transportation unsustainable in many of its cities. If buses were forced to make stops within a half mile of all places of employment they would be a serious contributor to pollution as they would be running empty the majority of the time.

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  17. Re:Diesel Kills by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Informative

    You may think that diesel makes you an environmental superfag

    Well, actualy diesel is a superfag. It puts out a lot more smoke than a simple cigarette.

  18. Re:So ban fatties from driving... by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, we solve it by taking away the guns, Look at Chicago and the fact that 61 of the 62 Mass shootings in america in the past 30 years have taken place in gun free zones.

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  19. Re:So ban fatties from driving... by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Early catalytic converters were crap. However, here in the 21st century we have "high-flow" cats that don't significantly increase backpressure in the exhaust.

    Othr things that have improved since the 1970s:

    - Horsepower per litre, thanks to alloy blocks, overhead cams, EFI.

    - Fuel consumption per horsepower, thanks to all the above

    - Handling, thanks to disc brakes, independent suspension

    - Safety, thanks to seat belts, crumple zones, ABS

    All that aside, I can see the appeal of a muscle car. If I had the time and money, I'd love to take a big boxy 1970s beast, throw away the ancient cast-iron carburetted engine, and drop in something like the 4.5L Lexus V8. Here in .au these engines are reasonably cheap from wrecked japanese imports. EFI, all-alloy, quad-cam, unleaded fuel friendly, and no dicking aorund tweaking carbs or constantly adjusting ignition points.

    It may annoy the purists, but I would be able to spend more time _driving_ it.

  20. Re:Smokey diesels are bad by Quila · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Give me much better gas mileage per volume of fuel, which means I can drive the same distance and produce less pollution. Environmentally conscious Europe now sells about 50% of new cars as diesel.

  21. Re:Diesel Kills by afidel · · Score: 4, Informative

    Diesel has 11% more BTU's per L than standard gasoline at average temperature and pressure, most diesel models get significantly better than an 11% improvement over their gasoline siblings. Much of this has to do with the fact that the diesel creates so much better torque at low RPM's that the manufacturer can install a smaller, less powerful engine without making the vehicle feel like a complete dog. As an example the 148HP CX5 diesel does 119g/km versus the 160HP gas engine which does 139g/km, an improvement of 16% and the diesel is significantly more fun to drive.

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