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Boeing Uses 20,000 Lbs. of Potatoes To Check Aircraft Wireless Network Signals

coondoggie writes "Boeing calls it Project SPUDS — or rather, Synthetic Personnel Using Dielectric Substitution — that is, using sacks of potatoes perched on aircraft seats to test the effectiveness of wireless signals in an airliner cabin. Boeing said it was researching an advanced way to test wireless signals in airplanes and needed a way to effectively simulate 200-300 people sitting in seats throughout the aircraft."

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  1. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So did they do this test in their labs, or at a Five Guys?

    1. Re:So by bondsbw · · Score: 3, Funny

      Five Guys usually makes me test my lab.

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    2. Re:So by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      This was Seattle, so it was done at Dick's Drive-In.

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  2. coincidence by pesho · · Score: 5, Funny

    The fact that Boeing's customers treat their passengers as sacks of potatoes is purely coincidental.

    1. Re:coincidence by colin_faber · · Score: 4, Funny

      Haha yes I was just thinking that, FTA "The team determined that potatoes were ideal stand-ins for passengers, given their similar physical interactions" I've seen lots of sacks of potatoes in my travels over the last year. Some even snore.

    2. Re:coincidence by oodaloop · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, that's pretty much the joke. Thanks for re-stating it.

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    3. Re:coincidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      If Boeing covered the sacks in lard and flew them to Florida, half of 'em would be married within a week and the rest would be cops.

  3. I hope they used the 50-ohm potatoes by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    cause if they used the 75-ohm ones, their Starch Wave Ratio may be too high.

    oh, and they have to be properly grounded. potatoes have experience in this area, so that's not usually a problem.

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    1. Re:I hope they used the 50-ohm potatoes by slimjim8094 · · Score: 2

      Well, I know that if I eat too many potatoes, I find that the input impedance ends up significantly lower than the output impedance and I get lots of damaging signal reflection at the output of the feedline...

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    2. Re:I hope they used the 50-ohm potatoes by tool462 · · Score: 2

      No kidding. If they mismatch impedances, the eye's on those potatoes will close.

  4. Re:Extra large sacks of potatoes by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The weight is not important. Sacks of potatoes can form a mostly human shape, and I suppose have a more or less similar water concentration? (emphasis on more or less)

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  5. Chill out, Paddy McButthurt! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    You're freaking out a bit early, don't you think? There's not a single Irish joke in the comments yet.

  6. "I took a spud, out to a see an EMI test... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...and didn't have to pay
    to
    get
    it
    IN!"

    (oldie but goodie?)

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  7. Re:Why couldn't they... by xaxa · · Score: 2

    Why couldn't they "effectively simulate 200-300 people sitting in seats throughout the aircraft" by actually having 200-300 people sitting in seats throughout the aircraft?

    Because it's cheaper than using actual people (from the video in the article, they first tested that the potatoes were similar enough to people in a lab). They were able to do some particularly long-running tests and collect a huge amount of data.

  8. Re:Extra large sacks of potatoes by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Imagine a spherical potato....

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  9. Re:Why couldn't they... by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's see...WiFi screws up airplane, 300 people dead, and your first question would be, "Why the hell didn't they use sacks of potatoes or something like that instead of people?"

    There's just no pleasing you.

  10. Re:Irish joke by kelemvor4 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, fries are made from potatoes.

    Not if you go to mcdonalds.

  11. Re:Not the problem? by colinnwn · · Score: 2

    Well, this was also for regulatory and safety testing, not just for signal quality to the end user. You also want to ensure every seat on the aircraft at least has a decent signal to not compound potential backhaul problems. Finally next gen ground data service is in development for both ground and AC users, as well there is decently high speed satellite service for AC like Row44.

  12. Re:Extra large sacks of potatoes by mpeskett · · Score: 4, Informative

    Numbers found by a brief search indicate ~60% (anywhere from 45% to 75% depending on age and obesity) for a human body, and ~80% for a potato. So you could probably get away with a potato sack smaller than a human, but it's a decent approximation either way.

  13. Re:Why couldn't they... by jd2112 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Let's see...WiFi screws up airplane, 300 people dead, and your first question would be, "Why the hell didn't they use sacks of potatoes or something like that instead of people?"

    There's just no pleasing you.

    WiFi screws up airplane, 300 potato sacks lost, and your first question would be, "Why the hell didn't they use people who can't stop texting for a few minutes instead of sacks of potatoes?"

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  14. Harry Chapin by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was just after dark when the plane started down
    The airspace that leads into Scranton, Pennsylvania
    Carrying Twenty Thousand Pounds

    Of potatoes.

    Carrying twenty thousand pounds
    (hit it Big John)
    Oooooof Potatoooooes

  15. And if the potatoes get fried... by knorthern+knight · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...you know the wifi signal was too strong

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  16. Legless by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sacks of potatoes can form a mostly human shape

    Only if you ignore the legs...which would also explain how they estimate the legroom to provide in economy seats.

  17. Re:Why couldn't they... by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    Let's see...WiFi screws up airplane, 300 people dead, and your first question would be, "Why the hell didn't they use sacks of potatoes or something like that instead of people?"

    There's just no pleasing you.

    WiFi screws up airplane, 300 potato sacks lost, and your first question would be, "Why the hell didn't they use people who can't stop texting for a few minutes instead of sacks of potatoes?"

    Wifi screws up airplane, 300 mad texters lost, and your first question would be, "Why the hell didn't they use celebutantes?"

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  18. They use chickens too... by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...at least back when Boeing had a presence in Wichita, KS in the 80's. They shot dead chickens out of a specially-built canon to simulate windshield strikes. My understanding is that jet engine manufacturers still use chicken canons to fire birds into running jet engines.