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EU Charges Samsung With Abusing Vital Telecoms Patent

Dupple sends this news from Reuters: "The European Commission charged Samsung Electronics on Friday with abusing its dominant position in seeking to bar rival Apple from using a patent deemed essential to mobile phone use. The Commission sent a 'statement of objections' to the South Korean group, with its preliminary view that Samsung was not acting fairly. 'Intellectual property rights are an important cornerstone of the single market. However, such rights should not be misused when they are essential to implement industry standards, which bring huge benefits to businesses and consumers alike,' Competition Commissioner Joaquin Almunia said in statement."

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  1. Such rights should not be misused by zebslash · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Indeed, "such rights should not be misused". So why granting bogus patents on obvious features that lead to such abuses? They should fix the system, not try workarounds!

  2. Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple tried to lowball the licensing at less than a quarter of the rate others were paying. Of course Samsung is going to say No to Apple.

    1. Re:Stupid by Intropy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wouldn't go that far. It's good to encourage companies to contribute to standards so that we actually do get standards and not every company for itself. But I think it would be a good idea for open licensing terms to be part of any standards submission. So Samsung can suggest patented tech X as a standard, but that needs to come along with a statement that X will be licensed for 3 cents per device to anyone who wants to use it. The license should cover all reasonably foreseeable use cases, and any that come up later get decided by the standards body. Nothing would stop Samsung from also offering a different license agreement to anyone, but the standard one would always also be on the table.

  3. Re:And yet... by jcoy42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I just hope they don't make Samsung post an apology on their website.

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  4. Re:And yet... by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 2

    Because their design patents are standards essential for making a mobile phone.

    Right on! Apple's competitors could give their phones sharp corners, or use a polkadot pentagonal shape instead of a black rectangular one.

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  5. Re:This is so important by aliquis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    s/it/them

    Comment on OSnews:
    http://www.osnews.com/thread?546002
    Laurence:

    Apple sue nearly every manufacturer over generic shapes and actions, and the government just give a green light for dumb intellectual property to be registered.

    Samsung sue Apple over actual inventions, and they get investigated.

    This world is going to the shits.

    (yes I know Samsung's patents were dubious because of being FRAND, and in an ideal world they shouldn't have used them. But in an ideal world they shouldn't have had to counter sue because Apple generic design patents).

    I agree. This is what patents are for after all. Why only have shitty patents for things not important and punish people who've got the real stuff? Make sense? Remove them already.

  6. Re:And yet... by harperska · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why does this stupid fandroid argument still get modded insightful on /.? Set aside the ignorance on the difference between design patents (which shouldn't really be patents in the first place, but have to be registered as patents because you can't copyright an industrial design for some reason) and FRAND patents. Apple did not generically patent all "rounded corners" as the fandroids claim. They patented which corners were rounded, and by how much. Compare the iPhone to the Nokia Lumia. Both are minimalist designs. Both have rounded corners. But the Lumia doesn't look anything like the iPhone, thus not infringing on the "rounded corners" design patent, while also clearly showing that having the exact same rounded corners as the iPhone is not a necessity for a smartphone.

  7. Re:And yet... by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is fundamentally a FRAND issue. Samsung submitted their patents as FRAND, Apple did not. FRAND places limitations on what Samsung can do with their patents in exchange for a simplified licensing system that gives them long term royalties from virtually every mobile device manufacturer.

    Anyhow, going after Apple with FRAND patents was always a risky strategy, and the EU charges are exactly why.

  8. Re:And yet... by cheesybagel · · Score: 2

    Not just that. There are EU standards forbidding the sale of gadgets with sharp corners.

  9. Re:And yet... by sg_oneill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The basic concept is essential vs non essential patents. Essential patents are supposed to be licenced out so as not to be used as a monopolization tool, where as stuff that isnt essential to compete , not so much.

    Considering "rounded corners" wasnt even a patent, and its entirely possible to put out a phone with other shaped corners, then no this is not a legitimate comparison at all.

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