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Mobile Raspberry Pi Computer: Build Your Own Pi-to-Go

An anonymous reader writes "Everyone has seen Raspberry Pi Computer, the credit card sized mini PC circuit board that costs only $35. Now there is a new Mobile Raspberry Pi called Pi-to-Go, with a mini LCD, 10-hour battery, and 64GB SSD, all packed together in a 3D printed case. See if you are up to the task to build your own."

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  1. Batteries by NixieBunny · · Score: 4, Informative

    The author could have done some research on battery packs instead of hacking up a laptop pack as he did. There is a company called batteryspace.com that sells multi-cell Li-ion packs with a protection circuit built in. They're not cheap, but they are reasonably safe.

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    1. Re:Batteries by Nyder · · Score: 2

      The author could have done some research on battery packs instead of hacking up a laptop pack as he did. There is a company called batteryspace.com that sells multi-cell Li-ion packs with a protection circuit built in. They're not cheap, but they are reasonably safe.

      The author stated in the article that he worked for 10 years repairing Dell laptops, and that was why he choose a laptop battery.

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    2. Re:Batteries by Nyder · · Score: 1

      The author could have done some research on battery packs instead of hacking up a laptop pack as he did. There is a company called batteryspace.com that sells multi-cell Li-ion packs with a protection circuit built in. They're not cheap, but they are reasonably safe.

      The author stated in the article that he worked for 10 years repairing Dell laptops, and that was why he choose a laptop battery.

      actually he stated he had more then 10 years experience and owned his own Dell laptop repair shop.

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    3. Re:Batteries by NixieBunny · · Score: 1

      Indeed. But how many of the readers have their own laptop repair shops? A general source of such batteries is a requirement to get this project in the hands of the average tinkerer.

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    4. Re:Batteries by node+3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The author could have done some research on battery packs instead of hacking up a laptop pack as he did. There is a company called batteryspace.com that sells multi-cell Li-ion packs with a protection circuit built in. They're not cheap, but they are reasonably safe.

      As with anything, the person in question could have done many things differently. So what? The fact stands that this person actually did *something*, which is infinitely better than doing nothing other than telling him why he supposedly did something wrong.

      I'll take one not-quite-perfect nerd project like this that actually gets created over a million permutations that *might* be slightly better in one way or another but don't actually exist.

    5. Re:Batteries by LordKronos · · Score: 2

      Indeed. But how many of the readers have their own laptop repair shops? A general source of such batteries is a requirement to get this project in the hands of the average tinkerer.

      But that's exactly the point in picking something like this. You don't need your own repair shop. You're a million times more likely to find a cheap, generic dell-compatible laptop battery on ebay than you are to find any other sort of high capacity battery very cheap and widely available.

    6. Re:Batteries by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Well said, sir!

    7. Re:Batteries by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and what's with the processor? It's rubbish, and as for the graphics card and expandable port system. Of course, that'll take more power, and the supply is woefully inadequate, so better add that. And a heat sink. And fan. And casing...

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    8. Re:Batteries by NixieBunny · · Score: 1

      The guy states in his article that the battery pack hack was not something that he'd be comfortable with other people duplicating. That's why I brought it up.

      I, too, applaud his doing of the thing. I make things too, but I try to use parts that are available to the general public when I post how-to articles about the things that I build.

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    9. Re:Batteries by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The fact stands that this person actually did *something*, which is infinitely better than doing nothing other than telling him why he supposedly did something wrong.

      He got far less product than he could have gotten by simply buying something from aliexpress or dealextreme, and in a really lame and ugly case. I could make a better-looking case out of sheet metal, but I wouldn't get on the front page of slashdot, because it wouldn't be 3d printed.

      I'll take one not-quite-perfect nerd project like this that actually gets created over a million permutations that *might* be slightly better in one way or another but don't actually exist.

      There are hundreds of permutations which already exist if you want a display, a keyboard, an ARM core, and HDMI out. Virtually all of them are superior completed products to a gigantic plastic brick based around a Raspberry Pi.

      Now, that doesn't mean there's nothing cool about this, using what he had on hand. But don't pretend for a second that there is any utility whatsoever in this device. He could have done much better. And if that were his goal, maybe he would have. I think it's cool that he hacked up what he had lying around, it's a cool exercise. It's just not a cool device. It is, in fact, extremely lame as a device.

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    10. Re:Batteries by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You're a million times more likely to find a cheap, generic dell-compatible laptop battery on ebay than you are to find any other sort of high capacity battery very cheap and widely available.

      That is a load of dingo's kidneys, because R/C cars now typically run on 2S or 3S Li-Ion packs, which are generally high-capacity for their size because if they aren't, you don't get much runtime.

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    11. Re:Batteries by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      And the author could've done a bit more research on SDHC cards and wear levelling. While he's right that SD's are slower than a USB to SATA and an SSD, the concern about lifespan on the SSD, especially the one shown in his pictures, has no basis in reality. It's true that it's not in the spec and that early CF's and SD's didn't have wear levelling, all but the cheapest of both types fail to provide it in their designs. SanDisk hasn't shipped anything of theirs without wear levelling in YEARS.

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  2. Re:Nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think that the first person to post to a Slashdot story should be permanently banned. Yes, in order for us to have a conversation, one person will have to take a bullet for the good of the group, but we will sing songs of your heroic sacrifice forevermore.

  3. Nice hobby project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    LCD Screen – $17.95
    Raspberry Pi – $35
    Mini Keyboard/Mouse – $29.95
    Standalone Battery Charger- $75.00
    Powered 7 Port USB Hub – $14.95
    64GB SSD Hard Drive – $129.95
    Dell D600 Battery – $88.50

    $391.30 (not including 3d printer and other tools).

    Nice hobby project if you have money to burn.

    1. Re:Nice hobby project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Instead of spending $391 to make a kludge of shit, you could spend half that and get a netbook.

      I've tried to understand why people want a Raspberry Pi, but I just still don't get it, I guess.

    2. Re:Nice hobby project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Same here. I used to make mock ups out of cardboard and bought tons of useless miniature keyboards and stuff to try to make "sci-fi" small computers and what not. Thing is, I was 15 and it was the 1980s. Now you just need to do some shopping and you can buy anything you want along those lines for less than what it cost in time and money to build the Pi project.

    3. Re:Nice hobby project by Erikderzweite · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What are you folks doing at the "news for nerds" page anyway?

    4. Re:Nice hobby project by phizi0n · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Rasberry Pi has its uses but what this guy did is make an oversized underpowered portable computer when you could buy a good android phone (no contract) with better specs for half the cost.

    5. Re:Nice hobby project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      New for nerds doesn't mean "anything, no matter how trite, expensive and useless as long as it uses a 3D printer".

    6. Re:Nice hobby project by robthebloke · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm just here for the ladies.

    7. Re:Nice hobby project by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He built it himself for fun. This isn't for sale. It's not supposed to be better than what you can buy. It was a fun project, an experiment, an exercise, a lesson. Haven't you ever made anything yourself, if only for the sole purpose of the satisfaction you feel?

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    8. Re:Nice hobby project by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jesus, I'm old but not THAT old... I remember when you could buy a stereo kit and assemble it yourself. Sure, you could just go out and buy an assembled stereo - but what fun was that? How would you learn how a stereo works by buying one from a shelf? What is more interesting to other people: an off-the-shelf stereo, or something you assembled yourself? One thing makes you more interesting and less ignorant. The other just makes you a regular consumer.

      This seems to be in the same vein, only he actually designed parts of his own kit so it's actually cooler.

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    9. Re:Nice hobby project by phizi0n · · Score: 2

      Pretty much the only thing he did was the 3d printed case, the rest was a bunch of shopping. Raspberry Pi is a $35 computer and he turned it into a $400 computer. I'm all for hobby projects but this one is far from interesting or impressive.

    10. Re:Nice hobby project by node+3 · · Score: 2

      Instead of spending $391 to make a kludge of shit, you could spend half that and get a netbook.

      Setting aside for the moment that netbooks themselves are kludges of shit...

      I've tried to understand why people want a Raspberry Pi, but I just still don't get it, I guess.

      For fun, why else?

    11. Re:Nice hobby project by Revotron · · Score: 2

      I'm just here for the "ladies".

      FTFY.

    12. Re:Nice hobby project by toygeek · · Score: 1

      New for nerds doesn't mean "anything, no matter how trite, expensive and useless as long as it uses a 3D printer and a Raspberry Pi."

      FTFY

    13. Re:Nice hobby project by fufufang · · Score: 1

      LCD Screen – $17.95
      Raspberry Pi – $35
      Mini Keyboard/Mouse – $29.95
      Standalone Battery Charger- $75.00
      Powered 7 Port USB Hub – $14.95
      64GB SSD Hard Drive – $129.95
      Dell D600 Battery – $88.50

      $391.30 (not including 3d printer and other tools).

      Nice hobby project if you have money to burn.

      With this amount of money, personally I would use it on something else. Printrbot jr is only $399.
      http://printrbot.com/shop/printrbot-jr/

    14. Re:Nice hobby project by Vermifax · · Score: 1

      The only thing that can reasonably be said about News for Nerds is that anyone who says "News for Nerds doesn't mean...."

      Is always wrong.

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    15. Re:Nice hobby project by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      You're right, a Pi has its uses, but let's get more specific. A low powered device smaller than a typical deck of cards - aren't most uses either going to be monitorless/headless or involve very small, low powered displays? If the design has a component big enough to hold the whole Pi inside some spare, empty space - if you can shoehorn the Pi itself into the big, honking gaming keyboard or the monitor, then that's where it should go, not connected by cables to a 23 inch desktop monitor and other input and output devices that together mass 100 or 500 times the Raspberry Pi. Who really has plenty of space and power for a 3D printer but can't find the additional space or power for at least a laptop sized controller and pattern storage device? I keep expecting to see Pi's used to do things such as overlay a GPS coordinate, date and time stamp on an in-vehicle camera and display system, or put into an Estes model rocket to record a G-sensor's output. So far, there's not much of that sort of use out there, but many people building something that still weighs 80-90% of a laptop or even desktop sytem. Just because a Pi can technically run Quake 2, doesn't mean it's ideal use is a gaming PC.

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    16. Re:Nice hobby project by samkass · · Score: 1

      Raspberry Pi has never been a $35 computer. You always need the peripherals and those will cost more than a bit. This guy choose expensive peripherals. Probably intent on writing the article at the same time.

      The Raspberry Pi is a $35 computer. Yes, you need peripherals, but if you're not the type that have the appropriate peripherals lying around you're probably not the target audience.

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    17. Re:Nice hobby project by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      In what delusional world are you paying $130 for a 64GB SSD? I just bought one for around $55.

      And i live in fucking AUSTRALIA where we get price gouged for everything.

    18. Re:Nice hobby project by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I keep expecting to see Pi's used to do things such as overlay a GPS coordinate, date and time stamp on an in-vehicle camera and display system, or put into an Estes model rocket to record a G-sensor's output.

      All of those are things better done with an Arduino, which has plenty of power for the purpose and which is smaller, lighter, and draws less power. Even the old ones do, and they have been used to do all of those things. Raspberry Pi isn't useful for putting a video overlay on the video from your quadcopter back to you, it's useful for implementing machine vision directly on your quadcopter so that you don't have to watch the video output.

      Just because a Pi can technically run Quake 2, doesn't mean it's ideal use is a gaming PC.

      If you couple it with a smallish OLED display you get a very low-power system, which is ideal for people running off of a battery or something. So it's an ideal PC for some people whose particular needs run in that direction. But actually I lied, they should probably just get a tablet and a keyboard. Something with 1GB RAM, for example, and maybe more cores. Because the R-Pi is pretty pathetic as a primary platform.

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    19. Re:Nice hobby project by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 1

      And yet he did more than you.

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  4. Re:Is this a joke? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    This thing is literally the size of a brick (and likely the weight too).

    But at least it won't be bricked if you tamper with it. :-)

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  5. Slashvertisements? by Yonder+Way · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With the frequency of RPi "articles" on /. one might wonder if there is some payola behind the positive press.

    But not a word is spoken about the ongoing supply chain issues, and resellers making candid statements about it not being worthwhile to try to carry them. Can we have a moratorium on articles that drive up RPi demand until the Foundation can get its supply caught up more with the demand you've already created?

    1. Re:Slashvertisements? by isorox · · Score: 5, Informative

      With the frequency of RPi "articles" on /. one might wonder if there is some payola behind the positive press.

      But not a word is spoken about the ongoing supply chain issues, and resellers making candid statements about it not being worthwhile to try to carry them. Can we have a moratorium on articles that drive up RPi demand until the Foundation can get its supply caught up more with the demand you've already created?

      I just bought 6, delivered next day. What supply problems?

    2. Re:Slashvertisements? by ctid · · Score: 1

      The Raspberry Pi Foundation is non-profit. I suspect the glut of stories is to do with the number sold and the perceived gap between price and capability. Certainly where I live (UK) supply is not a problem. Even RS, who couldn't fulfil my order in reasonable time, have now cleared their backlog (or so they claim). I cancelled my RS order and got one overnight from another supplier. You can buy them in store now here (eg at Maplin).

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    3. Re:Slashvertisements? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      With the frequency of RPi "articles" on /. one might wonder if there is some payola behind the positive press.

      Payola? You have lost touch with how Slashdot works haven't you? Just submit any story (preferably one with a link to your blog to drive up hits rather than to an actual article) and some overpaid idiot of an editor will submit it, change your headline to be sensationalist, add some typos, and ... profit.

      But not a word is spoken about the ongoing supply chain issues

      That's because there are none. There were initial supply issues when they came out. After the initial run of boards the supply issues were mostly solved. If you have issues now they are exclusively reseller issues, go buy it elsewhere. They are in stock all over the world.

    4. Re:Slashvertisements? by rephlex · · Score: 1

      The Raspberry Pi Foundation is non-profit.

      Apparently they do have one employee though. I wonder who it is and how much they're getting paid...

    5. Re:Slashvertisements? by ctid · · Score: 1

      Lots of non-profit organisations have employees. What point are you trying to make?

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    6. Re:Slashvertisements? by rephlex · · Score: 1

      I'm just curious.

  6. Not Just The Men - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Consumer culture is poisonous to both genders. I'm glad to have lived in a family that still embraces concepts like independence and creativity - I knew my great grandparents, if briefly, and learned more about them over time. I learned about the habits they picked up from surviving the Great Depression in particular, about thriftiness and resourcefulness. (Unfortunately I think this is also where my family acquired its hoarding gene.) Women used to take pride in crafts and creating their own clothing in the same way men took pride in trades like woodworking or machining. The demise of the trades made these skills unprofitable to obtain, and the rise of mass production made them unnecessary. The subsequent loss of interest just seems natural in the course of things, but the casual acceptance of mediocrity, homogeneity, and quiet dissatisfaction with everything attacks our nature. We have everything but we feel as though we have nothing, that we lose more every day. I see it all around me, constantly.

    It isn't that we're becoming feminized or that we're losing our collective testosterone, but something bigger than that. We're losing our independence, our free will, even our desire to survive: basic underpinnings of sapience. You know, our humanity.

    At least there's an upside to all this automation: Robots are becoming so cheap and easy to use that almost any poor idiot with a rainy day fund can eventually get his hands on a CNC table, and eventually, a 3D printer. It's no substitute for real creativity or real skill, but tools are tools - they exist to expedite the creative process. I don't worry about those. What I worry about is the rise of the kind of people who have no want or use for them.

    1. Re:Not Just The Men - by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

      And I'm just out of mod points, damn. Anyway, thanks for the interesting post AC.

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  7. Flatter form factor, please by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 2

    The bulkiness of the PDA-like hackware makes me wonder why the RasPeople didn't design a sleeker board. I mean something as slim as an iPod touch or a Palm Pilot.

    It's not as if there are significant design issues with a flatter board. "Only" the I/O connectors appear to be needlessly sticking out. How much more would it cost to substitute tinier versions of the USB and HDMI ports in the unit? Since feature/smartphones are already outselling PCS, I can only assume that the micro/mini versions of these standard ports have already achieved economies of scale.

    If some Indian company can produce an el cheapo $50 tablet complete with LCD, rechargeable battery, and case, and there are full-featured phones that are cheaper than that, why can't there be a RasPi that one can hack into a homebrew eReader?

    1. Re:Flatter form factor, please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The bulkiness of the PDA-like hackware makes me wonder why the RasPeople didn't design a sleeker board. I mean something as slim as an iPod touch or a Palm Pilot.

      It's not as if there are significant design issues with a flatter board. "Only" the I/O connectors appear to be needlessly sticking out. How much more would it cost to substitute tinier versions of the USB and HDMI ports in the unit? Since feature/smartphones are already outselling PCS, I can only assume that the micro/mini versions of these standard ports have already achieved economies of scale.

      If some Indian company can produce an el cheapo $50 tablet complete with LCD, rechargeable battery, and case, and there are full-featured phones that are cheaper than that, why can't there be a RasPi that one can hack into a homebrew eReader?

      The costs of putting in slimmer connectors are significantly more expensive than the taller connectors. Significant in this context is tens of pennies rather pounds/dollars/euros. This adds up to higher costs at the end.

      Also most people don't have the smaller connectors easily to hand to reduce costs. I have around 2 cubic metres of cables from various projects over the last twenty years and I still struggle to find some stupid connector some twat specified who thought he or she was being clever as it would save 1mm in thickness.

      Clearly you have zero knowledge of manufacturing, zero knowledge of what the Raspberry Pi is all about and would suggest a) reading up on what the Raspberry Pi website says b) spend a small amount of time in manufacturing to enable you to speak with authority. Based on what you've written to date around 15 mins would easily double your knowledge.

    2. Re:Flatter form factor, please by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I'm examining my pi now. The tallest things on the board, at roughly equal height, are the ethernet and USB ports. As the enclosure size is determined by the tallest component, it'd be pointless replacing anything else with (probably more expensive) lower-profile parts unless these can also be shortened. The USB could, with some rearranging, possibly be replaced by two side-by-side rather than stacked - but the ethernet port is an inherently tall connector. It's not getting any slimmer without losing the ethernet, which would be a serious loss of functionality.

      If you want a really low-profile pi, go warm up the soldering iron. Aside from the HDMI, the connectors all look like they wouldn't be too difficult to remove so you can solder cables directly to the board.

    3. Re:Flatter form factor, please by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      Wired Ethernet causes a problem. The cheap connector's tall. A pop-up/pop-out connector that would satisfy your "slimmer" requirement would make the boards nearly half again to double the cost.

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    4. Re:Flatter form factor, please by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 1

      But the cheaper version of the board doesn't have an Ethernet connector. So your choice for an Ethernet or whatever net connection for those boards will still be a USB dongle.

      *Funny but I just noticed that my Android cheapad which has no Ethernet connector, has an Ethernet option in addition to the usual BT and Wifi.

  8. Re:Nice by SiggyTheViking · · Score: 1

    Delusions, yes.
    We only recognize each other by our sig lines.

  9. Re:The Devil's In The Details - by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

    If you want a low power ARM portable, you could get something like this: http://www.genesi-tech.com/products/smartbook ... they're not selling it any more, but when they were selling it, it's less than the low end price you quote, and it's got a much more usable screen.

    It's cool what this guy did, but it's not something I would try doing. It seems like a colossal waste of money, especially for something that stands as a nettop on its own.

  10. Re:Nice by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 1

    I'll quite happy to support that proposition under my account name. Genius. Yes, it'll free us from the tyranny of pseudonymity.

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  11. A fun project to try by mapuche · · Score: 1

    While the machine is ugly, expensive and underpowered, it's an interesting hack. The guy had to figure how to connect all the parts that came from differents sources, not aa a DIY computer kit. He even had to deal with some basic electronics to use one energy imput (laptop battery) to feed several parts with different voltage requirements. He even call this a protoype. And that's what this frankentop is, a fun prototype to do. Thanks for sharing it!

    I miss the times when one visited a radio shack store and buy some parts to create an interesting hack. Now everything is about pre-designed arduino kits.

  12. Only one comment by multicoregeneral · · Score: 1

    That's an awful lot of money to spend on 6 high drain 18650 batteries wired in series. You can pick up individual batteries like this on ebay for about $5 each, if you order them from china. These are the same batteries my e-cigarette takes.

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  13. Re:Nice by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

    I like Pi

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