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Foursquare Will Display Users' Full Names By Default

Location services can be useful and fun, but, depending on how paranoid ("cautious") you are, you might already dislike the idea of a social-network dashboard keeping track of where you are at a given moment. After all, bad guys can use computers, too. Now, Foursquare may up your level of caution just a bit: CNET reports that "Beginning January 28, 2013, users' 'full names' will be displayed across the check-in service and venue owners will have increased access to users' check-in data, the company announced in an e-mail sent to users late last night." Users, though, "will still have control of the name displayed by altering their 'full name' in their settings," and can opt out of the increased flow of data to business owners. For users' sake, I hope Foursquare doesn't go in for the "real names" fetish to the extent that both Google and Facebook have.

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  1. History repeating itself by kintamanimatt · · Score: 2

    Pitchforks in 3 ... 2 ...

    Not sure what they're trying to achieve by doing this.

    1. Re:History repeating itself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Publicity. And it seems to work, there are at least two articles in the interweb, and there will be at least two more when they "graciously reverse direction"...

    2. Re:History repeating itself by iamhassi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed. Foursquare is dying. Facebook allows check-ins, so no one is using foursquare. So if your website is dying how do you get some press coverage? Make an outrageous claim that you're going to publish the full names and locations of all of your customers! Instant news coverage! 3 days later, claim due to "public outcry" you're changing your mind! Instant hero and more press! Thousands of new users sign up to the website! Marketing Basics 101 right there

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    3. Re:History repeating itself by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Foursquare, dying?

      Do you have anything to back this up?

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  2. Ut oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Know they'll know my last name is Coward!!!

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  3. They are mentally ill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's bad enough with fully, easily traceable public nicknames. The Internet has become something that I no longer want to have anything to do with. And yet there is no way to escape all this madness short of moving out to some cabin in the woods and living like a survivalist, which I really don't want.

    You really try to reach out to people, but it's always in through one ear and out the other. They don't get it. They think you are crazy. It's maddening.

    Even this site where I post this on, Slashdot, calls me an "Anonymous Coward" in an attempt to guilt-trip me into registering and logging in for anyone to track all my posts and violate my privacy.

    1. Re:They are mentally ill. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Internet has become something that I no longer want to have anything to do with.

      Do you want the Intertubes all locked up? Or do you want them "open"?

      Because with "open" comes responsibility. YOU put stuff about YOU on a public network, YOU give private data to companies and "agree" to their "privacy" policy.

      In other words YOU are in the driver's seat about how much people on the Intertubes know about YOU.

      So take some responsibility. Your name and consumer purchasing data didn't "just show up" in some huge database for sale to the highest bidder, in fact at some point YOU checked a box or scrolled through a EULA, and clicked "continue".

      This is a side effect of being a "consumer" in a "consumer society".

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  4. Never understood the appeal of that app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The whole idea of "checking in" was ridiculous to me in the first place. It immediately reminded me of the cartoon where the clever mice give the cat a bell as a gift. Why should anybody be surprised if they want to amp up the level of stupidity an extra notch?

    1. Re:Never understood the appeal of that app by alen · · Score: 4, Funny

      but if you are 22 or so years old how else are you going to show the world how cool you are?

      i mean everyone cares about everything you do every day?

    2. Re:Never understood the appeal of that app by davester666 · · Score: 2

      It was also an earlier form of indicating your location to your friends. They could hear you coming in your car via the stereo and the screeching tires.

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  5. Great, so employees can start harassing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Customers like they do now for Yelp. Twice I've been confronted after leaving a bad review on Yelp. The last time the manager at a Jimmy Johns was able to figure out that I worked in the same building as the restaurant and talked to my boss. So now Foursquare is getting into the business of facilitating the harassment and intimidation of customers.

    1. Re:Great, so employees can start harassing... by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As the song goes, you ain't seen nothin' yet. Welcome to the oppression of legitimate protest and criticism.

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    2. Re:Great, so employees can start harassing... by BitZtream · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So did you promptly post another review pointing out what the manager did and how you recommend no one visit that store ever?

      That would have been about the best thing you could do. I realize that cutting yourself out of an in building place to eat lunch sucks, but a manager like that needs to be shit canned.

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  6. "Full Names" seem to be the in thing by AbRASiON · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google Plus, Facebook, Foursquare - a lot of services are really pushing the boundaries at the moment. I suspect the social media backlash is going to begin pretty damn soon.

    On a similar, on topic note: Did anyone who does sign in to youtube recently get 'tricked' by a box popping up, offering them the option to change their first / last name on the service? I got it and thought, "fantastic! I can finally login with a name other than my gmail mail alias" and attempted setting up a different name. BAM - it made me a Google+ profile which I didn't want.
    Upon removing the profile, my videos are now tied to my "Google+ youtube account" - so anything I uploaded, any favourites, any comments are not available unless I re-create the account.

    Heavy handed indeed and from the musings on the web, I'd say I'm not the only one who got stung by this.

    1. Re:"Full Names" seem to be the in thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I bet the government is giving them tax breaks for implementing it.

      I bet they're not.

      You're right. they are just giving them National Security Letters.

      Why give money away or bother with warrants when you can just claim "National Security" and completely bypass that pesky "Bill of Rights" thing.

    2. Re:"Full Names" seem to be the in thing by undeadbill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Dunno why this was modded down. The *ONLY* ISP or hosting service operator in US history to challenge a national security letter was Nick Merrill. Ever.

      A single national security letter can dragnet in thousands of user accounts. Simply receiving one means that you are already bound to secrecy by the letter itself with the very real threat of 10 years in jail. Nick had to fight in a secret court hearing just to have the right to have an attorney represent him, and then again to publicly state that he received a letter. He still cannot discuss any of what was requested, or he goes to prison for a very long time.

      They are not limited to one letter per user per item- they are not required to be specific at all. That means every major service out there has been handing out your info to the feds. Usually, this is just usernames and other log data. If your full name is included, it makes it that much easier to keep tabs on you. And, yes, people are being investigated and rounded up based on this kind of data.

      Look up the Calyx Institute or Nick Merrill on YouTube. Fascinating stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkvGK60MSOk

    3. Re:"Full Names" seem to be the in thing by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      On a similar, on topic note: Did anyone who does sign in to youtube recently get 'tricked' by a box popping up, offering them the option to change their first / last name on the service? I got it and thought, "fantastic! I can finally login with a name other than my gmail mail alias" and attempted setting up a different name. BAM - it made me a Google+ profile which I didn't want.

      I've had a (seldom-used) YouTube account for several years - it was created well before Google bought them. The user name on the account has no resemblance to my (or any) real name. Every time I go to YouTube now I get a popup attempting to get me to switch to my real name - and, when I say "no", I'm asked to explain why. I've found it easiest to just pick the "I'll decide later" option, although I'm not sure for how long they'll continue to offer that as a choice.

      If forced, I've decided I'm going to put "Puddin' Tane" in the box; but I suspect they've got some sort of filter that'll catch that.

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    4. Re:"Full Names" seem to be the in thing by Charliemopps · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I suspect the social media backlash is going to begin pretty damn soon.

      It wont. People are fucking stupid. They have absolutely no idea what's happening to them. The only thing that will push the public as a whole to care is if holywood makes a movie about it and makes it glaringly obvious what's going on. But this isn't something that makes for good theater, and advertisers are going to squash any attempt to make such a movie just like they killed that Mythbusters episode about RFID.

      On the bright side however, those same stupid people that are using these services are also Fickle. I have a niece that's your typical tall blond bombshell, most popular girl in a very large school, won state sports championships, etc... Has something like 3000 facebook friends. According to her, facebooks on its way out. They are mostly annoyed by it and all the drama on it now. One girls opinion but she holds sway over quite a few clueless youth so who knows. I suspect that she's one of those "keystone" members that social networking sites fear losing.

    5. Re:"Full Names" seem to be the in thing by AbRASiON · · Score: 2

      That's the box - it will make you a Google+ profile if you're not careful (perhaps I'm blind but I didn't find that was clearly stated)

      It also won't allow anonymous names. I try to stick with just my initials - but no luck.
      Problem is if you make your name "Anonymous Dude" then your google+ profile (and possibly your gmail reply name?) will also be "Anonymous Dude" for example,.........

    6. Re:"Full Names" seem to be the in thing by pongo000 · · Score: 2

      it made me a Google+ profile which I didn't want.

      I noticed a week or two ago that the Google Play store will no longer permit you to submit reviews and ratings for apps if you do not have a Google+ account. No opting out of it either.

      I suspect the day is coming where you will have to have a G+ account to even download from the Play store (and what a stupid fucking name that is BTW, Google Play).

      It is faintly amusing to me though that I can create an unlimited number of gmail accounts under any nom de plume I choose. Riddle me this: Which has more potential for abuse? (1) The ability to create an unlimited number of fake gmail accounts, or (2) the ability to create an anonymous G+ account?

    7. Re:"Full Names" seem to be the in thing by pla · · Score: 2

      About 6 months ago she got locked out of her account because she started creating a Google+ profile (it prompted her to do it), and put in her real birthday.

      Wonderful! And I hope she learned the appropriate lesson - In the online world, Lle lie lie about every personal detail any site asks you.

  7. Unconcern by Brandybuck · · Score: 2

    I get the impression that those who want to tell the whole internet where they are at any given moment aren't too concerned about privacy. Then again, they may just be oblivious to reality. I know many college kids who have absolutely no clue that everything they post on a social site is viewable by the entire world for all of eternity.

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  8. Re:I don't think for many people it was about "coo by Brandybuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they don't want their privacy violated they shouldn't be telling the whole world what they're doing on a minute by minute basis.

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  9. self-satisfied by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am really proud of the fact that I don't know what "Foursquare" is.

    I really don't need to know what all of my friends are saying and doing at all times of the day and night. Shit, life is too short.

    I wonder how many twenty-somethings are going to hit 40 and realize that they spent more time updating their social networks than actually doing something.

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  10. Re:Introvert! by pla · · Score: 2

    An extrovert defines his self worth by what other people think of him. Unless you understand this, you'll never become adequately socialized.

    An introvert also doesn't give a shit about being "adequately socialized", or about what extroverts think of them. Which, interestingly enough, makes that a somewhat asymmetrical relationship - Because extroverts do care what introverts think about them.

    So... leave me alone to read my damned book in the park, and I'll give you a +5 likeable or whatever the hell you "cool" kids use to measure your ePeens these days.


    More seriously - I honestly don't "get" what FourSquare even does. Check in? I get the idea of signing a "guest book", but seriously, you can get a billion self-hosted third-party guestbooks, you don't need to sell your soul to Big Data just to see that you had a visitor.

    "But but but," I can hear you say, "what about the people who don't sign the guest book? How will you track them?"

    Hey, guess who will never ever sign up for FourSquare, either? :)

  11. Re:Introvert! by retchdog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    speaking as an introvert, this is a false dichotomy. there's some truth to what you're saying, but overall it's just something introverts comfort themselves with, to feel like they have some kind of integrity, and to put off overcoming their limitations. of course, before i go on, i must say that extraverts have limitations as well.

    i've known several extremely successful people who define their self worth in terms of what they can do, but challenge themselves by living and exhibiting it with their peers. they actively mentor those who are (at the moment) less accomplished, and they seek mentorship from those who are moreso. their extraversion leads to more utility and challenge of their own abilities.

    this is not to say that extraversion is a superior strategy; there are those who, as you say, begin to define themselves through the shallow. also, extraverts can be annoyingly grating and pompous to their introverted peers who nonetheless ``walk softly and carry a big stick." every person they snub with their antics will be more inclined to vote against them when evaluations come around.

    so, the challenge of the extravert is to not be a grating prick, while the challenge of the introvert is to benefit from other people. stereotypes like you present are only good in seeing the challenge; they are not the right way to live.

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  12. Re:Introvert! by Kjella · · Score: 2

    People have internal and external motivation but I think it's orthogonal to introvert and extrovert. The most obvious examples are the introverts who wish they could be popular and cool, they define their self worth in terms of what others think of them despite being introverts. And the attention whores that really define themselves only on what others think of them is a small minority of the extroverts, most of them are just social with self worth of their own. Good thing too because the greatest insult you can make to an attention whore is completely ignoring them, only met a few but they act like you just stomped on their puppy.

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