Does 2012 Mark the End of the Netbook?

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Does 2012 Mark the End of the Netbook?

Posted by samzenpus on Monday December 31, 2012 @08:05AM from the so-long-farewell-auf-weidersehen-goodbye dept.

Voline writes "Digitimes reports that Asus and Acer will not be producing netbooks in 2013, signaling the end of a product category that Asus began five years ago with its Eee PC. The Guardian looks at the rise and fall of the netbook and posits some reasons for its end. Reasons include: manufacturers shifting from Linux to Windows, causing an increase in price that brought netbooks into competition with full-on laptops that offered better specs for not much more money; the global recession beginning in 2008; and the introduction of the iPad and Android tablets."

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Nah by bobstreo · 2012-12-31 08:07 · Score: 4, Insightful

Samsung ChromeBooks, Apple 11 inch devices. Tablets with keyboards not running windows 8 or 7 for everything else...
1. Re:Nah by Trepidity · 2012-12-31 08:19 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Yeah, Apple's 11-inch devices are roughly a form factor that would be considered netbook-sized a few years ago. Slightly on the large end for screen size, since I think of 8-11" as typical netbook size, with the majority being 9-10". But spot-on for weight: the 11-inch Macbook Air weighs less than most 9-10-inch first-gen netbooks did. So the market got somewhat cannibalized from the top end by those kinds of devices. And from the bottom-end, the casual user who wants to browse the web occasionally in a coffee shop, everyone now has smartphones, and many people have iPads and similar.
  
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No Vision by amiga3D · 2012-12-31 08:09 · Score: 4, Insightful

The problem is that they don't know how to make a netbook. I think there is a valid market for a device the size of the original Acer ZG5 netbook. The problem is that the hardware companies allowed Microsoft to define what a netbook was and not the market. I'd love something the size of my Acer ZG5 that had a quad i7 and 8GB of ram and came with linux installed but that never happened. Underpowered Atom based machines with 2GB ram at nearly the price of a dual core equiped laptop. Who wants that? No one and I can't believe they could not figure that out.
1. Re:No Vision by Telvin_3d · 2012-12-31 08:26 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  So... you want a macbook air?
  Yes, the dimensions are slightly different, but it does come with a UNIX pre-installed.
  Apple isn't perfect, but they are the only company that has focused on high end hardware instead of racing to the bottom of every market.
2. Re:No Vision by Artraze · 2012-12-31 08:52 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  > I'd love something the size of my Acer ZG5 that had a quad i7 and 8GB of ram
  That's not a netbook, it's an ultrabook and it's expensive as hell:
  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834127833
  Yeah, it's 11.6" and not 8.9" but seeing as it's the same weight I don't really see that as a major issue. (I, in fact, consider it a big win since I've always thought the 9" keyboards were basically unusable.)
  > Underpowered Atom based machines with 2GB ram at nearly the price of a dual core equiped laptop.
  That is the essence of a netbook: An ultra low end computer that ran a browser, an email client and maybe a text editor. They were supposed to be cheap, but pretty much started at $200 and rose to $300 when Windows butted in. A decent laptop would run about $400, and they never really made sense for (or were intended for) anything but a sort of secondary travel-ish computer.
  (BTW, seeing as the Eee PC started with Linux and kept a Linux version through most of it's revisions, I don't really know why you say Microsoft defined the netbook design...)
  > Who wants that? No one and I can't believe they could not figure that out.
  Uh, yeah, they figured it out and that's why they aren't making them.
  But people _did_ want them. Not because they were good, but because they were cheap and somewhat because they were small. People saw them as proper laptops that were cheaper because they were smaller and not because they were just altogether cheaper. They would buy one thinking they saved $100, only to realize that they wasted $300 because it was to slow to actually do what they wanted.
  I don't believe it was intentional... I think they were introduced as trying to be the cheapest possible computer; about half the price of a normal one. Partly for travel, partly for people who didn't do much, partly for just having a computer you can use look up that actor in the TV show you're watching, and it didn't have to be your 'main computer'.
  But it turned out to be a stunning bait and switch: If you put Windows on it, you could charge $300. People would buy it thinking they were getting a new laptop. Then they'd be back in the store spending $500 six months later when they found out they needed a real machine. I think that's why they really 'took off' and were pushed so hard. They were just printing money by dramatically shortening an upgrade cycle that had stalled because proper computers had become fast enough.
Re:2010 was the end by ModernGeek · 2012-12-31 08:17 · Score: 4, Insightful

Yes, but you have to realize that sysadmins don't represent a large segment of the market.

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Re:2010 was the end by kthreadd · 2012-12-31 08:17 · Score: 5, Insightful

I bought a netbook because I wanted a really small laptop, and netbooks were the only ones I could find which had a nine inch screen. The problem was that everyone focused on making it as cheap as possible, and as a consequence used components with very low performance. I wouldn't mind a modern laptop with good performance at that size.
For me, the iPad killed the netbook by Teckla · 2012-12-31 08:18 · Score: 5, Interesting

I bought a netbook because I figured it could do everything a tablet could do, and more.
It turned out to be frustratingly slow, largely due to Windows 7 needing too many resources, Microsoft putting ridiculous limitations on what kind of specs a netbook could have while still qualifying for Windows Starter 7, and the agonizingly slow hard drive (which was accessed far too often due to Windows 7 needing lots of RAM -- while at the same time, Microsoft demanding it not be allowed to have much RAM).
Later, I bought an iPad, with a slower CPU and less RAM ... and I love it. Even though it's just a lowly iPad 2, the user experience is wonderful. I can't help but think Microsoft is partially responsible for making the iPad a success, because Microsoft were the ones responsible for ensuring a poor netbook experience. If my netbook experience hadn't sucked, I'd never have purchased an iPad.
Wish I hadn't wasted my money on a POS netbook.
Why I never bought a netbook... by damn_registrars · 2012-12-31 08:24 · Score: 4, Insightful
The list for me was pretty simple:
- Touchpads suck
- Windows sucks
- Few could competently handle a presentation and a spreadsheet or word processing document being open simultaneously
- The battery life wasn't that great compared to a regular laptop that cost and weighed only slightly more
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Re:2010 was the end by Baloroth · 2012-12-31 08:28 · Score: 5, Interesting

I agree. The netbook was nothing but a quick bait and switch by manufacturers that wanted to make a quick buck off of the recession. The image of a business person using a netbook is just that. Users of netbooks were people with little money looking for a new toy, and nothing more.
They aren't a desktop replacement. Normal laptops can be, but netbooks aren't (although I have stretched one to it, with a 24" monitor and keyboard.... worked alright, slightly underpowered but not terribly so for simple work). They never were intended to be. They were intended to be super light-weight, super small, super mobile, and have long battery life with decent specs. For portable web use, nothing was better. Tablets? Sure, if you never intend to type anything and don't mind cradling it uncomfortably in your arms, plus paying quite a lot more for similar or less power.
What killed the netbook was the manufacturers. They wanted higher margins, which meant shoving in more features and power (mostly completely unnecessary). That kills the battery life, raises cost, and completely destroys the whole point of the device. But the original netbooks, for simple web usage, email browsing, and light document editing? Incredibly useful.

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I love netbooks by bytesex · 2012-12-31 08:32 · Score: 4, Interesting

They serve as ideal small computers in all sorts of laboratory set-ups. Use them as network line-debuggers, use them as front-end mockups - I just love them!

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Re:2010 was the end by Scoth · 2012-12-31 08:42 · Score: 5, Informative

The funny thing is I still take a lot of my work meeting notes on a Dell Inspiron Mini 9 that was given to me last year. I constantly get people asking me what it is, where to get one, etc. Its keyboard isn't amazing, but it beats a lot of the add-on keyboards people are using (or trying to use) with their tablets, plus it's a lot more durable. It's also running a full Linux setup which I've used for some light development, writing sd cards for a couple embedded projects, and had no trouble with a lot of USB peripherals.
It may not be as cool as a lot of new tablets, and its battery life may not be up to what it was when it was new, but it's been a great thing for me. I have a 7" Android tablet too and haven't found a decent keyboard for it yet that isn't more than I want to pay. But the tablet does do media a lot better, Youtube and Netflix and such. So I tend to keep the netbook for work and the tablet for lying in bed watching something on Netflix. /csb
WaitAminute by folderol · 2012-12-31 08:51 · Score: 5, Informative

What's all this 'was' and 'were'? My eee901 is still going strong as an industrial tool (running debian squeeze) that helps me diagnose/configure/monitor all sorts of BIG machines. Battery life is fine, so is screen brightness and resolution. It quite happily bounces around on top of said machines while I plug in Ethernet, USB, serial over USB, and projectors (for display and education purposes). Back at the office I'm spoiled for choice as to which method I use the transfer the stored data. Oh, and this little baby, plus mouse, various leads etc. fits nicely in a padded sandwich bag.
If they really want an over 10x price premium by tepples · 2012-12-31 10:46 · Score: 5, Interesting

there was no large market for ultra-portables with no power.
"No power"? An Atom could do everything that a comparably clocked P4 could do. I use mine for lightweight Python programming. I bought a 10" because it fits in a bag that isn't an obvious "mug me" magnet.

People buying ultra-portables were used to paying $5000
Once my $300 10" laptop finally breaks, I'll be severely disappointed if I have to pay $5,000 to replace it.
Netbooks are alive and well in China by Animats · 2012-12-31 12:02 · Score: 4, Insightful

Search Alibaba for "Netbook": "185,881 Product(s) from 2,239 Supplier(s)". You can buy individual items. "Hot sell Mini Notebook 10.2 inch laptop Atom D425 Processor 1.8G Memory 1GB HDD 160G netbook wifi camera - US $217.00 / piece ", from Shenzhen Lihaicheng Tech Co., Ltd. Many sellers will ship directly to the US. Quality may be iffy, but there are seller reputations, and it's probably no worse than eBay.
Some of these are probably the same machines the big names were selling.