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Russian Space Industry To Receive $69 Billion Through 2020
An anonymous reader sends word that the Russian Space industry will be getting a big boost over the next eight years. Prime Minister Medvedev has approved $68.71 billion in space-related funding from 2013 to 2020. That's a huge increase from the $3.3 billion spent annually in 2010 and 2011. The increased funding is one of several efforts to restoring Russia's slowly fading spaceflight capabilities. "The failure of a workhorse Proton rocket after launch in August caused the multimillion-dollar loss of an Indonesian and a Russian satellite. A similar problem caused the loss of a $265 million communications satellite last year. Medvedev criticized the state of the industry in August, saying problems were costing Russia prestige and money." Medvedev said, "The program will enable our country to effectively participate in forward-looking projects, such as the International Space Station, the study of the Moon, Mars and other celestial bodies in the solar system."
Russian Space Industry To Receive $69 Billion Through 2020
That's what she said.
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
The Reuters article referred to 2.1 trillion rubles:
"Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev approved a plan to spend 2.1 trillion roubles ($68.71 billion) on developing Russia's space industry from 2013 to 2020, state-run RIA news agency reported."
A lot of money in any case.
In the 1990s the rich west used to blow money over to the Russians to give them something to do, so they didn't have to work for middle easterners. Proliferation and all that.
In the 2010's, the rich Russians will be blowing money our way, to make sure our unemployed NASA guys won't have to work for middle easterners. Same deal, cut back on proliferation.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
Too bad $60 billion of that will be siphoned off to slush funds and other nefarious activities.
of $100,000 tool bags http://www.space.com/7088-tool-bag-lost-space-meets-fiery.html Or maybe the Russians will buy theirs at a local hardware store
I got to the chocolate box before you, that's why the hard ones have teeth marks.
You must be from one of the satellites to spell it "sovjet", though...
At first, instead of "billion," I read "bitcoin."
I was surprised, to say the least.
Trolling trolls keep trolling?
That's a lot of money for space research. . Do they know something we don't?
You're getting confused with NASA.
Russia actually builds stuff that goes to space.
NASA is guilty of feeding an enormous bureaucracy full of academic studies, failed projects and priority backflips.
Q: What do you think $69 billion would get you in NASA?
A: Budget complaints, and not much else.
And Russia is full of corruption, so GP's comment is spot on.
DISCLAIMER: I am a Russian citizen.
Coding etudes
Throwing more money at it won't help if they don't increase the discipline. I bet those rocket losses were caused by bad/missing QA in supply chain and overall negligence, which seems to be omnipresent in Russian society at large. I'm not that old, but I remember Soviet times when the discipline was much higher. Nowadays, my compatriots borrowed Western relaxed way of life but unfortunately haven't borrowed Western attitude to work and Western responsibility for its quality.
Coding etudes
The number of orders at Lamborghini and Ferrari has just doubled for the next few years. Keep in mind that at least half (if not two thirds) of this money will inevitably be stolen. That's just how "business" is done over there. IRS would have a field day discovering the discrepancies between what folks officially make, and what they actually spend.
every country is full of corruption... that's merely a consequence of them being full of humans
the difference is that even with corruption, Russia still manages to achieve things on shoestring budgets
everyone whinges about their own government, so your response isn't at all surprising, but the American economy is in much deeper shit than Russia
DISCLAIMER: I am neither Russian or American, so I see things a little more objectively
Agreed, except that the Soviets have been history for over two decades now.
Even the current $3 billion budget would be more than enough for a private space company to develop a new launch system, provided the amount is focused on the right projects. I suspect a good part of the amount is taken up by the bureaucracy and deep space missions that fail.
While interplanetary research is good, I'd prefer a focus on near-Earth missions geared toward the exploitation of space or at least the development of a more self-sustaining space economy as far as fuel and life-support systems are concerned. That could involve the usual back-to-Moon-to-stay scenarios or something more esoteric like building solar arrays in Earth orbit.
That's a lot of money for space research. . Do they know something we don't?
What are you talking about? No it is not!
They use some of that money for manned space missions rather than for research. Still, their previous $3 billion annual budget could afford to send men to space while NASA's $18 billion annual budget apparently cannot. Now Russia announces a spending increase up to USD$68.71 billion over eight years (USD$8.59b a year), roughly half of what NASA's sliced up budget is currently.
Neil deGrasse Tyson's video pleas We Stopped Dreaming and its follow-up A New Perspective proposed we increase NASA spending to 1% of the US Federal Budget (current spending: 0.49%) suggests we could go to Mars and innovate the way we did in the 70s. That's significantly more than Russia's new investment and would help us keep our lead. Otherwise, we're losing both innovation and innovators.
I'd like NASA to be funded by the largest of:
* 1% of the US Federal Budget ($3.8t -> $38b in 2011)
* Half of the US DOD's Research, Development, Testing & Evaluation budget ($79b -> $39b in 2010)
* 5% of the whole US Military budget ($550b -> $27b in 2011, $708b -> $35b in 2012)
This extra funding would come from otherwise allotted military spending (so an increase to the military budget would typically increase NASA's budget as well). As I noted a few paragraphs earlier, this would roughly double the current $18b budget and would bring us to Mars.
Use my userscript to add story images to Slashdot. There's no going back.
seriously...STFU. The 'In russia...you'. So old Come up with something original. I know most jackwads on here think they're funny (which, in the most part, they seriously aren't). Be original, try harder, or STFU as stated earlier.
well, i think it would be enlightening if you wanted to tally up their successes achieved with this budget. rus-m? vostochny? glonass (the last certainly CAN be a success, but not yet)
China is our economic partner. China is not a military threat.
We have 26 aircraft carriers. They have one.
We have more nuclear armament then they have modern aircraft.
We have state of the art military technology across the board. The best they have is window dressing on 20 year old technology.
We can shutdown GPS on a whim.
We have computer viruses that can destroy industrial equipment.
We have biological viruses that could wipe out most of humans on the planet and we aren't even sure how to kill it yet.
If we stopped buying cheap goods from China, millions would starve, hundreds of millions would revolt.
For the first time in all of history, one country has more raw might then the rest combined.
When will enough be enough?
Oh and one last thing: We are not at war with China!
without russia the ISS would be a floating piece of space junk (which wouldn't eventually burn up in the atmosphere)
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Federal_Space_Agency
"Due to International Space Station involvements, up to 50% of Russia's space budget is spent on the manned space program. Some observers have pointed out that this has a detrimental effect on other aspects of space exploration, and that the other space powers spend much lesser proportions of their overall budgets on maintaining human presence in orbit."
russian space agency budget 2012: $5.2 billion
nasa budget 2012: $17.8 billion
russian success is soyuz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuz_program) and proton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Proton_launches)
these programs are as close to mass production for spacecraft as any country has ever come, and i can only imagine that russian engineers and technicians have kept it going under pretty harsh conditions
NASA has JPL, and but even that is now mostly scientific studies
GLONASS is currently operational ( http://www.sdcm.ru/index_eng.html ) , it is second operational global navigation system after US GPS, so you can call it a success.
Most relatively new GPS chips support GLONASS, so it is already used in consumer devices (for example Iphone 4S and 5) increasing positioning accuracy in cities with tall buildings and another situations where open sky view is limited.
I am glad to see the 2nd space race happen.
Even if it is between mostly private companies, that is still a good thing because if it brings us safe, cheap space industry quicker, all the better for humanity.
We NEED to get to space this century as a society. If we don't, feel lucky if you won't live to see past it, it will be horrible.
I'm hopeful that when space mining takes off, it will kickstart our leap to space.
Even if it is only a partial leap and "oh no brain diseases from outer space!" is a thing, even with artificial gravity through spinning, that will still be a good thing because it would be vital research towards getting humans out in to space permanently rather than semi-permanently.
Hell, even if we just plop ourselves on other planets, that will be better than nothing.
...the U.S. military budget is projected to be nearly 870 billion in 2013.
They already charge US astronauts 3x ($60M) per launch seat compared to ($20M) for space tourists like Sarah Brightman. The US screwed by terminating its viable shuttle program without a replacement for at least 8 years.
We asked NASA & Politicians to expand NASA's Space Programs Globally. I think Russia should incorporate other countries in it's Space Programs ie India, Thailand, Malaysia, Korea, etc. If countries aren't going to combine space programs then they will try to put their own military in space & space programs.
that prevents for instance SpaceX to deal with anyone but the U.S. government or is this all still 1960s just like the rest of the world ?
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
re: "(which wouldn't eventually burn up in the atmosphere)"
haha i mean would