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Facebook Lands Drunk Driving Teen In Jail

Hugh Pickens writes "The Washington Post reports that 18-year-old Jacob Cox-Brown has been arrested after telling his Facebook network that he had hit a car while driving drunk, posting the message: 'Drivin drunk ... classsic ;) but to whoever's vehicle i hit i am sorry. :P' Two of Cox-Brown's friends saw the message and sent it along to two separate local police officers and after receiving the tip, police went to Cox-Brown's house and were able to match a vehicle there to one that had hit two others in the early hours of the morning. Police then charged the teen with two counts of failing to perform the duties of a driver. 'Astoria Police have an active social media presence,' says a press release from Astoria Police. 'It was a private Facebook message to one of our officers that got this case moving, though. When you post ... on Facebook, you have to figure that it is not going to stay private long.'"

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  1. How is this gasping news by FunkyLich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the price you pay for being immature.
    You know you have done something wrong (1.drive drunk 2.smash a car and the incident is the effect of a cause that is you alone, in wrongdoing). You look around, make sure noone sees you and when this turns out to be positive, you keep your fucking mouth shut. QED.

    1. Re:How is this gasping news by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or if you're a real man, you leave your number under his windshield wiper, fess up (to the hit, not the drinking) and pay for the damage.

      Then you stop being a murderous punk-ass little bitch who'd drink and then handle a giant steel lethal weapon.

    2. Re:How is this gasping news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How does being "a real man" entitle you to "ignore" the far more serious crime of drunk driving?

    3. Re:How is this gasping news by beelsebob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The news is even inaccurate... Facebook didn't land him in jail, being a moron and driving drunk, then not stopping at the scene of an accident did.

    4. Re:How is this gasping news by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That'd be the "Then you stop..." part.

      It's called learning from mistakes. If nobody's hurt and you paid for the damages then there's no point in getting a criminal record if you've learned your lesson and aren't going to do it again.

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    5. Re:How is this gasping news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except it's unlikely that you would learn your lesson if you get off so lightly. That is why DUI penalties are so harsh, so that you don't easily forget.

      Punishment is not the cause of good judgment. Doing things just to avoid punishment is the very opposite of having your own judgment.

      Think about it for a minute and it will dawn on you just how simple that really is. Punishments are for people who for whatever reason, fail to develop their own good judgment. They cannot control themselves internally so we make laws to control them externally.

    6. Re:How is this gasping news by gsslay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's called learning from mistakes.

      Drunk driving is not a "mistake". You chose to get drunk. You chose to drive. You know it's wrong. You know it's dangerous. You know you may kill someone. You choose to do it anyway. That's not a "mistake", that's wilful culpable recklessness.

      there's no point in getting a criminal record if you've learned your lesson and aren't going to do it again.

      "if" being the keyword. How do we know you've learned your lesson? Only you know for sure, and you're a dangerous idiot, so who's going to believe a word you say? The point of getting a criminal record is that if you've a habit of not learning your lesson, then someone ought to be keeping track of just how much more of a lesson you need, before it gets through your thick skull.

    7. Re:How is this gasping news by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You know it's wrong.

      What if they don't think it's wrong?

      What if they overestimated their ability to drive while under the influence? Would that not be classified as a "mistake"?

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    8. Re:How is this gasping news by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, because unless they are mentally retarded, they know, without question, that alcohol and drugs affects their mind and motor skills before ever consuming any and before ever climbing into the driver's seat.

      They probably know it affects their mind and motor skills, but to what degree do they think it will affect their ability to drive? At any rate, I highly doubt they intended to harm anyone, so I would indeed say it's a mistake on their part. That doesn't at all mean I think they should be let off, though.

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    9. Re:How is this gasping news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sorry, but drunk drivers deserve whatever they get. Once you've had multiple family members killed by drunk drivers, you'll feel a little different about it. And no, these weren't first time offenders, either. For one it was his 5th offense, for another it was his 15th offense, and for the third it was was 17th offense. In the second "accident", the victim was unrecognizable because she (and the motor) had been relocated to the back seat of the car. The only way they knew it was her was because: 1) it was her car, 2) she had a distinctive bracelet on one hand, and 3) she'd just been on the phone with relatives and had relayed her location, which was just a few blocks from where she was killed.

      So, I have no mercy for drunk drivers and I think the punitive and financial costs to these asshats should be much, MUCH, **MUCH** higher than they currently are. As it is, there is no incentive for them to learn from their mistakes and they do not.

    10. Re:How is this gasping news by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not even driving while intoxicated is, of itself, a criminal act, since it's entirely possible to do so without actually maiming or killing anyone or even violating traffic laws.

      By the same logic shooting blindly at random directions should also be legal, because you don't necessarily hit anyone. In fact, ignoring any and all traffic laws or simply driving with your eyes closed should be just fine because you don't necessarily hit anyone.

      Reckless endangerment of other people is a crime, and should be a crime because otherwise those other people have little choice but to go vigilante in the name of self-protection.

      I don't hear any Libertarians crying foul about that.

      Libertarianism is about the freedom to commit financial homicide, not ethanol assisted vehicular homicide.

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    11. Re:How is this gasping news by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Informative

      In the US, the prison system is the solution to every problem. I always say that tourists should have a look inside our prisons to see what the real America is like. The New America is represented by a sadistic prison guard beating the shit out of an inmate for fun. Our culture is all about punishment and revenge and hurting people. A whole country full of angry, enthusiastic torturers who don't care what happens to anyone else but themselves.

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    12. Re:How is this gasping news by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A whole country full of angry, enthusiastic torturers who don't care what happens to anyone else but themselves.

      That would explain the "nothing to hide, nothing to fear" mentality that a lot of people seem to have. It would also explain the people screaming to have alleged pedophiles be skinned alive. Yeah, pedophiles; not child molesters. Some people in the "for the children" crowd seem much more insane and dangerous than those who they want to murder for thought crime to me.

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    13. Re:How is this gasping news by Macman408 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sometimes it helps to have experiences that show one just how much it affects their abilities. I had a roommate in college who said he would absolutely never drink and drive because he had seen the detrimental effect intoxication had on his driving in Mario Kart, and he was way better at Mario Kart than at actual driving.

  2. eCrimes division by wild_quinine · · Score: 4, Insightful
    That you can be arrested for admitting to crimes on Facebook is only news these days for the people getting arrested.

    Treating this story as news in this day and age smacks of the "Same old crime.... but on a COMPUTER!!!" syndrome that we've been criticising for a decade or more.

    1. Re:eCrimes division by You're+All+Wrong · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I thought what we liked criticising here was "same old invention ... but on a COMPUTER!!!", so much so there's an entire /. section devoted to such stories.

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  3. Re:Nice friends by zdzichu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you get to know about a crime and do not report it, you automatically become an accomplice. He basically forced them to report him.

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  4. Idiot x2 by BumpyCarrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Idiotic for driving drunk. Even more so for admitting to doing something illegal, stupid and dangerous to self, and admitting it to people who apparently have an interest in the subject's well-being.

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  5. Re:Nice friends by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do you wait until your friend kills someone before you do the right thing?

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  6. Re:Social Snitching. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some poor guy's car get wrecked up by an asshole and you are only worried protecting the asshole from paying the consequences? Snitching is absolutely and completely ethical if you are reporting an immoral or unethical act. If an asshole has hurt another person, then you have a duty to snitch. The case where snitching is unethical is when you report a 'crime' that hurts nobody (drug use is a good example).

  7. Re:Not FB by 91degrees · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes. A better headline would be "Stupidity Lands Drunk Driving Teen in Jail".

  8. Re:Nice friends by SomePgmr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Besides which, "friends" means something completely different on Facebook.

    In the real world, they're people that would slap you in the face for being a dangerous shithead. On facebook, they're often just people that were in the same yearbook as you, once upon a time.

  9. Re:Social Snitching. by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're doing him a favour - if he stops drink driving, he's much less likely to end up in a body bag, or worse, maimed or in jail.

  10. Re:Nice friends by timmyf2371 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For me, my "obligations" to friends and family would stop depending on the nature of the crime. For example, if a friend or family member was committing a "victimless crime" such as taking illegal drugs, I would absolutely feel no need to report this. But for something like drink driving, you can be certain I'd reporting this.

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  11. Re:Nice friends by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You! Out of the gene pool! The little shit could've killed someone, and you're worried that someone told on him?

  12. Bragging about crimes in public by teslar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    is never a good idea.

    I'm reminded of the Belgian who had a video of himself doing 300km/h on the motorway posted to youtube.

    He was driving an Aston Marting Vantage Carbon Black edition of which only three were sold in Belgium. Didn't take the police long to figure out which one it was.

    1. Re:Bragging about crimes in public by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you live in Belgium you can drive to Germany in no time .

      Well, no, but it will take *less* time at 300 km/h.

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    2. Re:Bragging about crimes in public by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you blow by the polizei going 250kmh on the autobahn (or federal highway) and there's a speed limit, which the highest it will be if there is one is 130kmh, you are fooling yourself if you don't think you'll get pulled over. While the autobahn (or federal highway, except through towns/cities) as a motorway has no set speed limit, the maximum recommended speed is 130kmh. If you get in an accident going over that speed you are always partially at fault, no matter what actually caused the accident. If you are driving over the speed rating of your tires and it's found out, you're going to be fined. While there are plenty of places on the autobahn with no speed limit (I've hit 250 in my car, damn rev limiter), more and more there are large sections which are limited, with many of those having a variable limit depending on congestion level. Finally, one of the big reasons the polizei don't pull over speeders is because they have cameras to catch and bill them, with the fine correlating to actual speed limit and how much over you were going.

  13. Re:Social Snitching. by Black+LED · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Or even worse, hurting or killing someone else.

  14. Re:Nice friends by jamesh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if my friends kill someone, I'll still support them.
    That's what true friendship is about.

    Being drunk behind the wheel of a car is a dangerous thing to be doing. If it was my friend i'd be dobbing them in too, for their safety and the safety of my other friends (and family, and strangers). I would be giving them the chance to turn themselves in first, but they'd need to be quick. That's the sort of support they need, even if it isn't what they want.

    In any case, a true friend wouldn't put me in the position where I had to make such a choice.

  15. Good by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Tell people about a crime you committed.
    2. Get caught.

    Glad that still works.

  16. Re:Upside Down World by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Driving drunk is ALWAYS wrong. 99% of gun owners do absolutely nothing wrong with their guns.

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  17. Re:Upside Down World by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In many parts of the world, those 99% of gun owners do something wrong with their gun: owning it. (yes, in many parts of the world gun ownership itself is forbidden, except very few specific exceptions...)

    No... they do something illegal. Being illegal doesn't make something wrong. In many parts of the world owning a bible is illegal.

  18. Re:Social Snitching. by SternisheFan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This. Next time he hits a car there might be somebody in it.

    And there *will* be a next time if you approve of his behavior by inaction (ie. not "snitching").

    Exactly. His friends reporting him ARE being his friends. Hopefully, this is a wake-up call that, if he wizens up to, will keep his future from being filled with regret and manslaughter charges. If he doesn't, his irresponsibility will wreck more than just his own selfish existence.