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Kingston Introduces 1TB Flash Drive

Deathspawner writes "If there's one thing that each CES can bring, it's a handful or products that manage to drop jaws everywhere. Kingston's latest flash drive series, DataTraveler HyperX Predator 3.0, manages to be one of those. It's aimed at folks who actually need mass storage on the go at speeds that mechanical hard drives cannot offer. Available soon will be a 512GB model, followed by the 1TB later this quarter. The drive features read speeds of 240MB/s and write speeds of 160MB/s — not quite desktop SSD speeds, but much faster than a mechanical hard drive, and with vastly reduced latencies due to it being flash storage. Not surprisingly, pricing has not yet been discussed."

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  1. It that a huge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    porn collection in your pocket or ...

  2. prices by xorbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Somewhere I saw ~900 Eur for the 512GB model, which is nearly USD$1200

    1. Re:prices by loufoque · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean $800.
      Remember, Europe gets fucked pretty badly when it comes to prices of electronic goods.

    2. Re:prices by Delarth799 · · Score: 2

      Current prices of a 500GB SSD are going to run you right around $380 to $600 right now depending on who manufacturer and where you buy it. This is a tad less than half the size with the same amount of space so I'm not terribly surprised. I would peg the 1TB version of this being around $2000 give or take

    3. Re:prices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well he's saying that a USD$800 gadget in the USA goes for EUR800 across the pond, despite the exchange rate.

    4. Re:prices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Woosh! What he meant was that even if it was 900 EUR which would be more than 900 USD, the price in EUR is usually higher than the price in USD. Same goes for AUD. Games are twice as more expensive in Australia because even if the AUD has caught up with the USD, the numbers in the prices haven't changed so what's 30 USD costs 60 AUD even if AUD > USD.

    5. Re:prices by jez9999 · · Score: 2

      Here's a decent 480GB SSD: http://www.ebuyer.com/284750-ocz-480gb-agilitry-3-ssd-agt3-25sat3-480g

      It now costs 347.64 pounds ($557.55) but I recently paid 290 pounds ($465) for it! So you can get really decent-sized quality SSDs if you shop around.

  3. Buzzword Bingo? by iYk6 · · Score: 5, Funny

    DataTraveler HyperX Predator 3.0

    I laughed for about half a minute at that name. Next year: Mega Terminator X-treme 5x5!!!

    1. Re:Buzzword Bingo? by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      DataTraveler HyperX Predator 3.0

      I laughed for about half a minute at that name. Next year: Mega Terminator X-treme 5x5!!!

      Soon followed by the Gargantutron Ultra eXtreme Super Hyperwossname.

      Long ago, far away, names were already a complete mockery of the marketing department clowns. They have transcended mere idiocy, surpassed art-form and gone right down the Ultra eXtreme loo.

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    2. Re:Buzzword Bingo? by EvanED · · Score: 2

      Reminds me of this standup sketch...

    3. Re:Buzzword Bingo? by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      They're saving Y-8 for croquet.

    4. Re:Buzzword Bingo? by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      Just call the next one "Cloud". I store everything in the Cloud.

      Cloud's too slow.

      Let me know when your local telco upgrades that copper so you can upload data at 160MB/s and also drops usage caps.

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    5. Re:Buzzword Bingo? by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see your Dara O'Briain and raise you Bill Hicks.

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    6. Re:Buzzword Bingo? by Curupira · · Score: 2

      Just call the next one "Cloud". I store everything in the Cloud.

      Cloud's too slow.

      Let me know when your local telco upgrades that copper so you can upload data at 160MB/s and also drops usage caps.

      ~Whoooosh!~

  4. and the all important $$$ factor by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Informative
    According to Engadget it is not something we are all going to bring to work day to day just yet

    If you're interested in snagging one of the top two units, be advised that the price of the 512GB edition is a staggering $1,750.00 -- so you'd better get working on impressing that MLB scout next time they're passing by.

    http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/kingston-1tb-flash-drive/

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    1. Re:and the all important $$$ factor by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      According to Engadget it is not something we are all going to bring to work day to day just yet

      If you're interested in snagging one of the top two units, be advised that the price of the 512GB edition is a staggering $1,750.00 -- so you'd better get working on impressing that MLB scout next time they're passing by.

      http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/kingston-1tb-flash-drive/

      And in three years they'll be selling them at the office supply store for $30.

      Ain't the relentless march of tenchological innovation wunnerful?

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    2. Re:and the all important $$$ factor by failedlogic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There would be no market. I'm not sure if you're implying this.

      According to Hollywood accounting rules, no movies ever make a profit .... so no movies for movie execs to carry around!

    3. Re:and the all important $$$ factor by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Around 1990, I paid $400 for a 40MB MFM drive.

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    4. Re:and the all important $$$ factor by ackthpt · · Score: 2

      Around 1990, I paid $400 for a 40MB MFM drive.

      Dude! By 1990 everyone was moving to RLL!

      Ah, and we once had a stack of old Byte magazines on a shelf in the corner, I leafed through a few for a good laugh. 1980 a 5 MB drive cost $2500, a 10 MB drive cost about $4000.

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    5. Re:and the all important $$$ factor by sconeu · · Score: 2

      In '92 we paid $3000 for 32MB RAM in a new departmental Unix server.

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    6. Re:and the all important $$$ factor by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      I paid $400 for my first 1G HD and also paid $400 for my first 500G HD.

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    7. Re:and the all important $$$ factor by jedidiah · · Score: 2

      The SSD requires power. You can't just plug it into an OTG cable and turn your Android phone into the ultimate Archos replacement.

      Plus "nearly the same size" just isn't good enough if you actually care about capacity. It's kind of like being almost pregnant. Your device is either big enough or not. "There is no try".

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  5. 1TB was available before this by WankerWeasel · · Score: 4, Informative

    They've offered a Swiss Army knife with a 1TB drive for over a year now.

    1. Re:1TB was available before this by kav2k · · Score: 3, Informative

      Came here to remind of that. Here's a hands-on.

  6. Chris Hansen eat your heart out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now everyone wants to catch a Predator.

    1. Re:Chris Hansen eat your heart out by bejiitas_wrath · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why don`t you take a seat over there. Did you know that flash drive was under 16GiB?

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  7. An innocent question, please be gentle... by Nrrqshrr · · Score: 2

    As a guy with several computers and with the most recent one boasting a mere 100ish GB space (I never really needed more). I have always been curious about something, my own drives cause me quite a lot of time wasted on defragmentation, otherwise I would get meet those pesky bottlenecks way too often for my taste. So I wondered how that much space, 1 TB or more could affect defragmentation. I mean by that, would a regular 1 TB drive start bottlenecking at the same point (of frequency of use and space usage) as a mere 100 GB drive, or does the added space add to the "tolerance" of such a drive?

    1. Re:An innocent question, please be gentle... by nabsltd · · Score: 4, Informative

      SSDs might not, but the filesystem does.

      You don't need to defrag a filesystem on an SSD, because the purpose of defragging is to remove the need for random seeks, which are slow on a spinning magnetic disk.

      Since the penalty for an extra random read on even a "slow" SSD is around 0.1ms (with fast drives around 0.03ms), even a horribly fragmented file wouldn't make much difference compared to "read X consecutive blocks". For example, if every block required a separate "read" command because the file was completely fragmented, it would take nearly 100 blocks before you'd hit the penalty for a single extra seek on a mechanical hard drive.

      And, nearly all that penalty is for the OS and hardware, because every read on an SSD is really random with respect to where the data really resides (because of the wear-leveling algorithms). So, even if you read 20 consecutive disk blocks, you might be reading from 20 different areas in the flash memory.

    2. Re:An innocent question, please be gentle... by BradleyUffner · · Score: 2

      I've got bad news for you. Even if your SSD was 100% defragmented it would still be physically fragmented due to the internal wearleveling that SSDs use. They intentionally scatter storage around the drive in order to even out the amount of cell usage to prolong life.

  8. Seems it was only a few years ago... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    8GB drives were something to salivate over, because you could store an entire DVD on it.

    Now these things are so commonplace I have them littering my desk, giveaways from tradeshows, vendors, etc. You can get them in amusing shapes of Taz, Hello Kitty or Dora the Explorer at the office store.

    Finally dipping my toe in the water with an SSD for the desktop machine. It's been running for years on a pair of Seagate 160GB SATA I drives, which are near capacity. I thought about buying a couple of 1.5 TB drives, but reviews are very dismal on mechanical storage drives now. Seems a lot of old manufacturers are being bought up by Seagate and Seagate and Western Digital will soon be the only players left in a "buggy whip" market. Hard to beat the GB/$ deal with hard drives, but with 1 year warranties and a lot of DOA deliveries, plus quite a lot of drives which seem to die within the first year, I'm not super inclined to put my valuable files on them.

    Here's hoping by the end of the 2013 we have some good prices on high capacity SSDs and In can move my photos, videos and miscellaneous crap onto new drives.

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    1. Re:Seems it was only a few years ago... by Kjella · · Score: 2

      I think the only people to care enough to write reviews on mechanical drives these days are those with a bad story to tell because there's absolutely nothing exciting to say. Nobody cares about performance anymore because SSDs has spanked them every which way but they're cheap, big and they work, sure you could get a lemon but I'd take backups of that SSD too. I think your chances of a broken drive was much higher back when they had new tech and doubled in capacity every two years.

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  9. Re:Can we have real USB SSDs? by ackthpt · · Score: 2

    I bought a 512GB SSD for $400-ish. It's about time somebody stuffed that kind of drive into a USB stick. It should have mass market appeal so the volume should be much higher than regular SSDs.

    Dennis Nedry called, he's got the complete mapped DNA of all the dinosaurs for you. He'll be delivering them as soon as he gets his car out of the mud.

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  10. Re:1TB OCZ SSD already on Newegg by WD · · Score: 2

    Apples and oranges. That's an internal, full-size, SATA drive. This is talking about a USB stick.

  11. Re:Can we have real USB SSDs? by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've never seen a good movie adaptation of a book. LotR was pretty good, but so much went missing or was different than what we imagined...

    The worst I've ever seen was The Postman. It's one of the best sci-fi books I've ever read. I re-read it last month, and there were parts that brought a tear to my eye.

    We should clone a mammoth just because we can. I mean, holy shit, a mammoth. We could do it too.

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  12. OT: Your name by sconeu · · Score: 2

    It's a good thing you're bearded. "Beardo the Clean Shaven" just doesn't have the same ring to it!!!

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  13. Re:Piracy enablers? by mattack2 · · Score: 2

    Aren't they just encouraging piracy?
    What are you going to fill it with? Maybe not those 1TB monsters, but 100GB or even 50GB, what are you going to use them for?

    I don't pirate at all, but want bigger disks to use as Tivo drives. Not Flash drives, of course, but heck, maybe when those get huge/cheap, then maybe so.

    Even now, I download shows legally with my Tivo Stream to my iPad mini to watch on my treadmill.. (you can also stream them when in the same house, but with a semi-flaky WiFi network, I'd prefer to download them).

    But I still record most things in SD, since HD recordings are HUGE. I'm starting to think about doing an off-Tivo backup drive, and the bigger the better for that. (There are already lots of tools to let you do this, I just mean doing it more routinely, with HD recordings.) I record way more than I can watch during the main season, then start to catch up during the summer. Heck, over the Xmas break, I caught up on a lot of things while most shows were in reruns.

    So big drives are definitely useful for legitimate media reasons.

  14. Re:Kingston's own site by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 2

    Yeah, and? The date of mine is A YEAR AGO.

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  15. He just lost a T and didn't mean NFS by dbIII · · Score: 2

    Looks like NTFS was intended. While it doesn't fragment as badly as FAT it still doesn't wait as long as most other file systems to write so still fragments a lot more than ext, ufs, zfs and the rest. It's a tradeoff between faster writes (NTFS style) or faster reads later on (just about everything else).