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Indiana Nurses Fired After Refusing Flu Shots On Religious Grounds

Hugh Pickens writes writes "ABC News reports that Indiana University Health Goshen Hospital has fired eight employees after they refused mandatory flu shots, stirring up controversy over which should come first: employee rights or patient safety. The fired nurses include Joyce Gingerich and Sue Schrock who filed appeals on religious grounds. 'I feel like in my personal faith walk, I have felt instructed not to get a flu vaccination, but it's also the whole matter of the right to choose what I put in my body...' adding that she has not had a flu vaccine for 30 years as a result of a choice she made because of her Christian faith. Over the last several years, hospitals have been moving toward mandatory vaccinations because many only have 60 percent vaccination rates says Dr. William Schaffner, chair of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. Schaffner adds that nurses in particular tend to be the most reluctant to get vaccinated among health care workers, 'There seems to be a persistent myth that you can get flu from a flu vaccine among nurses,' says Schaffner. 'They subject themselves to more influenza by not being immunized, and they certainly do not participate in putting patient safety first.' But Jane M. Orient, M.D., executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, says the scientific case for flu vaccine mandates is very weak and that there is no evidence showing that vaccinated workers are less likely to transmit virus. 'The scientific and religious concerns are in a sense backward,' says Orient. 'Advocates of the mandate are full of evangelical zeal and are quick to portray skeptics as wicked and selfish. It's like a secular religion, based on faith in vaccine efficacy and safety.'"

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  1. Why are we quoting the AAPS? by stonecypher · · Score: 5, Informative

    The AAPS is a fringe group with less than 3000 doctors. It's like the American Osteopathy Association: its members are whack jobs, not real doctors.

    Of course there's evidence that vaccination reduces transmission. Did OP even try to research that claim or its source before reprinting it? Did we think the pertussis wave in northern California came from some reason other than that non-vax transmit where vax don't?

    So tired of this knee-jerk "well let's give time to the other side" bullcrap. No. Figure out if they're insane first.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vaccinated+less+likely+to+transmit

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    StoneCypher is Full of BS
    1. Re:Why are we quoting the AAPS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Funny, I'm from the UK where they DO have the National Health Service and I always got in to see my doctor the same day I made the appointment as long as it wasn't too late in the day. And FYI I'm about as far from being elite as you can get...

  2. Influenza vaccination has been shown highly effect by joostje · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flu_vaccine#Benefits_of_vaccination Influenza vaccination has been shown highly effective in health care workers (HCW), with minimal adverse effects. In a study of forty matched nursing homes, staff influenza vaccination rates were 69.9% in the vaccination arm versus 31.8% in the control arm. The vaccinated staff experienced a 42% reduction in sick leave from work (P=.03).[33] A review of eighteen studies likewise found a strong net benefit to health care workers

  3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Any statement she makes should be viewed with suspicion, check out the wikipedia page for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, it's journal has made some interesting statements such as 'that human activity has not contributed to climate change, and that global warming will be beneficial and thus not a cause for concern' and 'that HIV does not cause AIDS'.

  4. Re:It's employers rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    People WERE dying by the millions. Influenza, smallpox, polio, diptheria... guess what? Vaccines were developed and now smallpox has been eradicated while the risk of polio and diptheria has been reduced so much many people have never heard of either of them.

  5. Re:Good by LordLimecat · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are largley a way to shift personal responsibility to the Big Sky Man.

    Spoken in true ignorance.

    Aside from the plethora of religions with NO deity, Christianity (one of the biggest religions) see the problem as being oneself-- that is, the responsibility is being shifted nowhere but inward.