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Change the ThinkPad and It Will Die

ErichTheRed writes "Here's an interesting editorial piece about the ThinkPad over at CNN. It mirrors what many ThinkPad devotees have been saying since Lenovo started tweaking the classic IBM design to make the ThinkPad more like a MacBook, Sony or other high-end consumer device. I'm a big fan of these bulletproof, decidedly unsexy business notebooks, and would be unhappy if Lenovo decided to sacrifice build quality for coolness. Quoting: 'Before doing anything drastic, Lenovo would be wise to review the spectacular rise and fall of Blackberry-maker Research in Motion. The mobile handset manufacturer tried to take on Apple by launching a number of products aimed at the retail consumer after the launch of the iPhone. It released the devastatingly bad Blackberry Storm as a response to the iPhone and later the Playbook to take on the iPad. The Storm failed because it was hastily put together in a mad dash and lacked the signature Blackberry QWERTY keyboard ... The Playbook failed because the Blackberry ecosystem had at the point of its launched more or less collapsed, making the Playbook just another iPad clone no one wanted. Meanwhile, the original Blackberry was left to wither away as the company focused on chasing Apple and wasn't updated in a meaningful way, making it look just old and tired.'"

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  1. should use Lenovo logo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    since ThinkPad hasn't been an IBM product nor brand since 2005

  2. Lenovo Thinkpads Already Suck by tapspace · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a T60 and a T420s (and I've owned a T23, T40 and another T60p). The T420s has an abysmal screen, extraordinarily weak speakers, a lesser keyboard, poor battery life from day 1, terrible bluetooth range (noticeably worse than the T60), and the keyboard damages the screen like so many low quality laptops (I keep a sheet of A4 paper in mine to prevent this). Who cares about the Thinkpad brand? It's effectively dead. They're terrible now.

  3. Re:Why I tend to buy lenovos by gmack · · Score: 5, Informative

    A few months back I bought a Lenovo with a wireless card with a glitch so I did the first thing I have done with every other laptop I've ever owned when presented with this problem: I ordered a new wireless card. What happens? I get a post error about an unauthorized wireless card and the Laptop refused to boot until I removed it. Until Lenovo gets it through its head that if I pay for it than it is MY laptop and only I have the right to determine what cards are "authorized" I will not buy another Lenovo product.

  4. Re:I like them by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ding ding ding! Typing this from a ThinkPad right now. I picked it from all its competitors because it has a standard IBM layout, with a keypad and all. No chiclet keys here. The mouse trackpad is a solid piece integrated with the case. This laptop has survived dropping once, accidental thumps more times than I can count, frequent airplane trips, and it's never done anything to make me angry - which is more than I can say for any other piece of electronics I've ever owned.

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  5. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by nogginthenog · · Score: 3, Informative

    The number of Apple phones I see on my daily commute with a cracked screen is crazy.

  6. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by b.emile · · Score: 4, Informative

    I sincerely hope you're kidding... the whole reason we have gorilla glass now is because Steve Jobs talked Corning into making it again for the first iPhone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Glass

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  7. Re:These CEOs need to learn about Agile... by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

    No rim slit their own throat by doing really stupid crap.

    1 - not adopting android.
    2 - hiring a moron from Microsoft.

    That's pretty much it.

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  8. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by erice · · Score: 3, Informative

    Though Apple is exceptionally good at balancing nice and cost.

    No, Foxconn is. Sweatshops tend to do that.

    Sweatshops are a tool. At Apple's direction, Foxconn builds nice products at manageable prices. For most other vendors, Foxconn builds cheap pieces of shit. I first heard about Foxconn (long before they became well know as Apple's factory) because they were the ones producing really awful motherboards for Dell.

  9. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

    mostly from morons that keep it in their back pocket. What complete idiots think that is the right place for a phone? I was told by one chick that the NExus 4 was junk because she cracked 4 of them. She kept sitting on the freaking phone because she puts it in her back pocket.

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  10. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by raydobbs · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nothing terribly revolutionary about a gun that uses ABS plastics for the lower portions - magazine well, trigger assembly, pistol grip, etc. This lightens the weapon and makes it easier to carry, draw, and aim - though it does increases the effect of recoil when the weapon is discharged (due to the lack of stabilizing mass). The REAL parts of the gun are still forged steel though, despite quibbling internet memes and crazy anti-gunners screaming the 'ceramic' lie - Glock achieves the 'ceramic' feel through a process called 'Parkerizing'

  11. Re: Why I tend to buy lenovos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually Lenovo is doing that to comply with FCC regulations. While authentication methods differ between suppliers the FCC still requires that OEMs control which wireless card will work in their system as the FCC grant is specific to a host/wireless card/antenna combination.

  12. Re:I like them by greg1104 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Except that Thinkpads have a chiclet keyboard now. That's kind of the point here; they've changed to where they're homogenous and unrecognizable as classic Thinkpads from a quality perspective. There is no reason left to pay extra for a Thinkpad over $GENERIC_CRAP now. (They're still better than, say, HP, but I can assemble a computer out of cardboard that is more rugged than a HP laptop)