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Change the ThinkPad and It Will Die

ErichTheRed writes "Here's an interesting editorial piece about the ThinkPad over at CNN. It mirrors what many ThinkPad devotees have been saying since Lenovo started tweaking the classic IBM design to make the ThinkPad more like a MacBook, Sony or other high-end consumer device. I'm a big fan of these bulletproof, decidedly unsexy business notebooks, and would be unhappy if Lenovo decided to sacrifice build quality for coolness. Quoting: 'Before doing anything drastic, Lenovo would be wise to review the spectacular rise and fall of Blackberry-maker Research in Motion. The mobile handset manufacturer tried to take on Apple by launching a number of products aimed at the retail consumer after the launch of the iPhone. It released the devastatingly bad Blackberry Storm as a response to the iPhone and later the Playbook to take on the iPad. The Storm failed because it was hastily put together in a mad dash and lacked the signature Blackberry QWERTY keyboard ... The Playbook failed because the Blackberry ecosystem had at the point of its launched more or less collapsed, making the Playbook just another iPad clone no one wanted. Meanwhile, the original Blackberry was left to wither away as the company focused on chasing Apple and wasn't updated in a meaningful way, making it look just old and tired.'"

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  1. Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE! by xtal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love technology.

    You pick up a blackberry. It feels like a cheap plastic piece of shit.

    You pick up a acer. It feels like a cheap plastic piece of shit.

    You pick up a HP. It feels like a cheap plastic piece of shit.

    You pick up a (insert anything electronic and mass produced that the bean counters got at). It feels like a cheap plastic piece of shit.

    This is because.. they are cheap pieces of shit.

    Pick up a nice Thinkpad. It does not feel like a cheap piece of shit. Especially the old ones.

    Pick up ANYTHING APPLE. It does not feel like a cheap piece of shit.

    If you are in charge of decisions at a large company publicly traded and cannot figure out what you do to your product image.. those little cents you save here and there, all turn your products in to cheap feeling plastic pieces of shit. Your brand also turns into a piece of shit. I feel sad for HP. At least SGI died.

    Rant off.

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  2. Lenovo Thinkpads Already Suck by tapspace · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a T60 and a T420s (and I've owned a T23, T40 and another T60p). The T420s has an abysmal screen, extraordinarily weak speakers, a lesser keyboard, poor battery life from day 1, terrible bluetooth range (noticeably worse than the T60), and the keyboard damages the screen like so many low quality laptops (I keep a sheet of A4 paper in mine to prevent this). Who cares about the Thinkpad brand? It's effectively dead. They're terrible now.

  3. Re:These CEOs need to learn about Agile... by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Agile is a horrible model for hardware design. The whole point is a rapid release cycle to get that constant feedback from users. That only works if you can update your product rapidly, which is a bit hard when it's a complex and highly integrated piece of hardware. Redesigning even a small custom piece of plastic has a huge pipeline to get it designed, prototyped, final mold made, tooled, and built.

    The only way hardware like this is remotely affordable or profitable is giant economy of scale (manufacturers routinely spend hundreds of thousands to redesign motherboards just to save a couple dollars each), so making custom batches of 100 laptops would be insanely expensive.

  4. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pick up ANYTHING APPLE. It does not feel like a cheap piece of shit.

    You're right, it feels like an incredibly overpriced piece of shit.

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  5. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rant off.

    I'll take you up on that offer. Why are people so concerned with how things "feel"? It's a phone. It doesn't "feel" like anything. You feel. The device is.

    Which leads to the second part: it doesn't "feel plasticky", nor does it "feel cheap". It is plasticky and you think it's cheap because you have equated plastic to inferiority. Which isn't necessarily true. If you have a mobile device that tends to get dropped (or even flung) quite often, guess what sort of body will be better at absorbing shocks: plastic or aluminum.

    Plastic can be a wise decision, and because of fashion or just plain wrong generalizations (plastic is - historically, even - often used as a cheaper alternative to better materials) it's apparently now acceptable to "feel" something as "cheap", and that's it. Review sites do it all the time. No further investigation needed; it "feels", therefore it is, in a bizarre twist of Descartes. Give me data, not worthless subjective assumptions. They feel stupid.

  6. Re:These CEOs need to learn about Agile... by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Redesigning even a small custom piece of plastic has a huge pipeline to get it designed, prototyped, final mold made, tooled, and built.

    True now, but in a few years, 3d printing will be filling this niche even nicer.

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  7. Re:Why I tend to buy lenovos by gmack · · Score: 5, Informative

    A few months back I bought a Lenovo with a wireless card with a glitch so I did the first thing I have done with every other laptop I've ever owned when presented with this problem: I ordered a new wireless card. What happens? I get a post error about an unauthorized wireless card and the Laptop refused to boot until I removed it. Until Lenovo gets it through its head that if I pay for it than it is MY laptop and only I have the right to determine what cards are "authorized" I will not buy another Lenovo product.

  8. Re:Time to burn some points. HEY MBA STUPID PEOPLE by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gorilla Glass' primary feature is scratch-resistance, not shatter-proofing. Apple already uses Gorilla Glass. To me, it seems like their devices shatter so easily for three reasons:
    - The "glass sandwich" design (double the chance of shattering)
    - Flat flush face (my Nexus S has a slight curve to the face, which means when I drop it, none of the screen actually impacts the ground)
    - Aluminium instead of plastic (it increases the phone's weight unnecessarily, meaning more damage when it drops)

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