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Microsoft Patents Tech That Would Silence Your Phone For You

tsamsoniw writes "Microsoft has filed a patent for a mobile technology called Inconspicuous Mode, aimed at helping you not be 'that guy' who disrupts movies, meals, or meetings with noisy, bright-screened phone alerts. It's a setting that would effectively put your phone in stealth mode when the device sensed it was in a movie theater (thanks to location information) and that the lights had gone down. The idea is, you could still receive alerts if a call or text came in, but no one around you would be disturbed by phone sounds or screen flashes."

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  1. Already got it. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I already have a phone that does this. As someone who is aware of my surroundings and generally conscientious, I simply turn my phone to "vibrate" or even - God forbid - OFF... It works very well indeed. And I even still receive alerts if a call or text came in. Amazing technology.

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    1. Re:Already got it. by iamhassi · · Score: 5, Informative

      I already have a phone that does this. As someone who is aware of my surroundings and generally conscientious, I simply turn my phone to "vibrate" or even - God forbid - OFF... It works very well indeed. And I even still receive alerts if a call or text came in. Amazing technology.

      Yes Apple already patented the technology, silencing the phone based on GPS location. Similar to geofencing that came out in iOS 5

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    2. Re:Already got it. by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, this is also about shutting down somebody else's annoying phone.

      Which I can do, too - it's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple sledgehammer.

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    3. Re:Already got it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It may not be as elegant, but flipping the smartphone to vibrate is good enough for me.

      I like having my device notify me on my terms. On Android, I can have the device not ring or alert at certain times of the night. On iOS, Do Not Disturb mode is similar.

      Geolocation is interesting, but there are a number of issues. If I'm passing by a movie theater and needing to get an important call, will the device give me the option to ignore the marked location, or will it think it is better than I and mute the phone?

      Then, there is the tinfoil hat aspect, which I'm sure others will bring up too... it is far-fetched, but something noteworthy: The same technology that can mute the phone in a theater can be used to disable cameras.

    4. Re:Already got it. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Informative

      I already have a phone that does this. As someone who is aware of my surroundings and generally conscientious, I simply turn my phone to "vibrate" or even - God forbid - OFF... It works very well indeed. And I even still receive alerts if a call or text came in. Amazing technology.

      Yes Apple already patented the technology, silencing the phone based on GPS location. Similar to geofencing that came out in iOS 5

      Cute, Apple patents something in 2012 that I've had on my Android phone since 2010 (little app called WhereRing). That sort of thing never happens.

      Minor bitch, a script that takes input from existing sensors and uses said input to cause a particular action in existing hardware is not what I would refer to as "technology."

      "Bloody obvious" would be a good alternate term.

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    5. Re:Already got it. by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The missus already programmed her Android phone to engage in location based auto configuration. She uses it for power management but certainly the same principles can be use for "do not be a jerk" purposes.

      A lame *ss software patent for the USPTO. Whodathunkit?

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    6. Re:Already got it. by hondo77 · · Score: 2

      In all fairness to Apple, that patent was filed in 2008.

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    7. Re:Already got it. by Dishevel · · Score: 4, Informative

      I love Tasker for this kind of thing.
      Turning on wifi at home and at work.
      Toggling GPS off when battery power gets low.
      Guess though would would need some kind of patent on stuff like this to use it on iOS or Windows Phone 8.
      On Android though Tasker has been on every one of my phones for a few years now.

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    8. Re:Already got it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thanks for the link, actually. Yeah, it confirms what the parent said.

      Inventors: Bell; Michael (Cupertino, CA), Lovich; Vitali (Toronto, CA)
      Assignee: Apple Inc. (Cupertino, CA)
      Appl. No.: 12/215,592
      Filed: June 26, 2008

    9. Re:Already got it. by UltraZelda64 · · Score: 2

      When you are at a movie, do you even want incoming calls or notifications of anything? I sure as hell wouldn't.

      Even then, with Google Voice you can still receive text messages and a list of missed calls even if you have your phone either turned off or in airplane mode to enjoy a movie while saving battery juice; you'll just be left alone for the duration of the movie (I see that as an advantage, not a disadvantage...), but as soon as the phone is connected again you'll be able to read and reply to any text messages or call back any missed calls. Seems like a far better solution to me. I tend to use airplane mode since it is faster than the shutdown/boot cycles yet still saves power and my phone has a battery-guzzling bug that reactivates at every reboot, but GV offers yet another choice: Do Not Disturb mode. All callers will be sent straight to voicemail, and you can set the GV app to notify you of new voicemail with a sound and/or vibration.

      Of course, this means the phone will still be connected to all networks and draining battery power, and unsolicited calls made directly to your actual phone number will still be able to get through. [Double-edged sword though; people who are given the phone's number for emergency purposes will still be able to get through, which can be a good thing.]

      So basically... cell phones already provide this functionality by default, and anything this new Microsoft patent tries to improve, Google Voice already does it better. Therefore, I am not impressed.

    10. Re:Already got it. by bugs2squash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I occasionally go to movies and leave my kids with a babysitter. She has my number and I expect a call if something really bad comes up that she needs to deal with (after she dials 911) and the kids have my number too. If the movie theater were to deliberately cause me to miss such a call I would sue their ass regardless of whatever legal crap they posted in their "conditions of ticket sale" fine print.
      I'm sure I'm not alone.

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    11. Re:Already got it. by iamhassi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And regardless, isn't it a genial, brilliant idea? Of the kind that even your dog might think while taking a crap. The obviousness of these patents is so clear that it stopped being funny long ago, now it is only outraging.

      I agree, sucks companies have to patent the obvious, but if apple didnt patent it someone else would in 2015 and then sue apple for using it for 8 years like the patent troll patenting podcasts in 2009.

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    12. Re:Already got it. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      thanks for censoring yourself. the word "ass" probably offends a LOT of people on this site.

      I'm not offended. I prefer ass over ssa, srt or sub any day of the week.

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    13. Re:Already got it. by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      Not according to the USPTO
      United States Patent 8,254,902
      Bell , et al. August 28, 2012

      That's the date it was granted. Look closer:
      Filed: June 26, 2008

    14. Re:Already got it. by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're so spoiled. Mobile phones have only been commonplace about 15 years and already people talk about them as if they have an inalienable right to be connected everywhere at any time.

      People were able to cope with leaving their kids with a babysitter in the 1990s and earlier you know. Without going all prima donna and threatening lawyers.

    15. Re:Already got it. by dudpixel · · Score: 2

      What if this patent is so that the phone can do it without your approval?

      That changes the ball game I think.

      I'm all for my phone being smart, but only when I tell it to, or only when I'm aware of it, and when I'm ultimately in control of what it does.

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  2. Or you could turn it off ... by Kittenman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or silent mode...

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  3. this is like trying to make people good drivers by alen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    people drive like asswipes because they think the world revolves around them

    same here, the people disrupting the movie won't care about this. and probably won't enable it even if their phone had it.

    the only solution is to wait two weeks or more until after a movie comes out to see it in an almost empty theater

    1. Re:this is like trying to make people good drivers by crutchy · · Score: 2

      or you can grab it off them and throw it against a wall, and then say "oh man i thought you had a spider on you"

    2. Re:this is like trying to make people good drivers by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the people disrupting the movie won't care about this.

      Even if they did, they'd still answer and say "I can't talk, I'm in the cinema... Really? No way, dude!! Haha. So what did he do next??? You're kidding me!!! " etc.

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    3. Re:this is like trying to make people good drivers by icebike · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the people disrupting the movie won't care about this. and probably won't enable it even if their phone had it.

      Most of the people who disrupt movies are not jerks, just forgetful, or they came in a few seconds late and missed the ever present "Cell Phone Off" request that appears on the screen in every theater I've been to in the last 5 years.

      This would save a lot of embarrassment and I suspect a lot of people would turn it on if it worked properly.

      If they do get it working properly, I'd like to see it on by default, with the setting to turn it off buried 5 menus deep. That would keep the clueless users who can't figure out how to silence their phones from being able to defeat it without the manual.

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    4. Re:this is like trying to make people good drivers by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 2

      Too bad they're illegal devices. The FCC and cellular carriers don't take it very well when people use cell site jammers. If you're caught with one, you're looking at fines and potential jail time for disrupting essential services.

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    5. Re:this is like trying to make people good drivers by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They're illegal for good reason.

      Perhaps you've never had an important call before. One of the jobs I interviewed for was Communication Engineer for the Ambulance Service. That job required 24/7/365.24 on-call duties because

      when 911 stops working, it has to get the fuck up fucking fast.

      Sometimes doctors go home, sometimes MPs will go to a movie.

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    6. Re:this is like trying to make people good drivers by bitt3n · · Score: 5, Funny

      the only solution is to wait two weeks or more until after a movie comes out to see it in an almost empty theater

      that's what I do. otherwise there's always some jerk who thinks it's funny to throw popcorn at me while I'm trying to talk on the phone.

    7. Re:this is like trying to make people good drivers by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 2

      So you're saying they shouldn't try to have a life outside of their work? Who's the unreasonable person now?

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  4. How does it know when the lights go down..... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    as opposed to just sitting in your dark pocket?

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    1. Re:How does it know when the lights go down..... by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 2

      3. The one or more computer-readable storage media of claim 1 wherein the at least one ambient condition is selected from the group consisting of ambient light and ambient sound.
      6. The one or more computer-readable storage media of claim 1 further comprising: detecting a signal from a wireless local area network communication having a network identifier indicating that the mobile communication device should enter the inconspicuous mode; and switching to the inconspicuous mode when the signal is detected.

      Claim 3 and 6 of the patent indicate it is looking at light, sound, or a wifi signal.

  5. Tasker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Doesn't tasker already let you do this?

    1. Re:Tasker by icebike · · Score: 2

      Does your mom run Tasker?

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  6. Re:A hammer? by Minwee · · Score: 2

    I thought hammers have been known for centuries, how did they manage a patent on that?

    The same way you patent anything else, by adding the words "over the Internet" to its description.

  7. Turn it off, or leave by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I own and operate a movie theatre. I have policy trailers that I play before every show telling you to turn your cell phone off. If I see a light from a cell phone while the show is on, I'll go in and ask you to turn it off until the show is over. If I see your light again, I'll ask you to come to the lobby with me, and when you get there I'll tell you to go home.

    Since I have been doing this for years, ever since cell phones existed, I have very little problem with cell phones here.

    Consistent enforcement is the answer. I have to tell maybe one or two people a month to turn their phones off, sometimes I can go a few months without having to do it once. And I can't remember the last time I threw someone out for that -- it's been at least a couple of years.

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    1. Re:Turn it off, or leave by SirGarlon · · Score: 2

      If I see a light from a cell phone while the show is on, I'll go in and ask you to turn it off until the show is over.

      How do you handle it when the theatre is near full and the offender is in the middle of a row?

      How do you handle it when the customer declines to get up out of his chair and leave the theatre at your request?

      Forgive my skepticism, but the approach you outline here sounds like it would only work on people who are courteous enough not to use their phones in a theate in the first place.

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    2. Re:Turn it off, or leave by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 2

      How do you handle it when the theatre is near full and the offender is in the middle of a row?
       
      That's usually not a problem since the people around him/her will tell that person to turn the phone off. If not, I'll "excuse me" past the crowd in that row and do it myself. 45 seconds of disruption from me going in and out is better than the rest of the movie with a light shining in that row.
       
        How do you handle it when the customer declines to get up out of his chair and leave the theatre at your request?
       
      That's never actually happened, but if it did I suppose I would either call the police to come and help that person find the exit, or maybe just stop showing the movie for a few minutes until he left, depending on the exact circumstances at that time. Of course, the offender would then be permanently barred from entering my theatre ever again, and since I have the only theatre in town he probably wouldn't want that to happen.
       
      Your ticket can always be revoked by "the management" and I'm the management.

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  8. Re:Meaningless Patents by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    ....but I guess you have to play the game.

    Only if you intend to perpetuate it.

    "I must do evil, because everyone else does" is not a valid excuse, and only serves to eternalize douche-baggery.

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  9. This Already Exists... by Farmer+Pete · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are several programs that can be set to automate your phone like this. The problem is that location awareness isn't as good inside a movie theater as you might hope. For instance, I live about a half a mile away from the nearest megaplex. I setup a rule on my phone to turn off the ringer and wifi when the phone is at the address of the cinema. However, the rule kept triggering when I was sitting in my living room. Even if I didn't live so close, if I was shopping at the stores next door, my phone would be going to vibrate mode automatically. I've found that doing location based things only works well if your location isn't near anything else. For instance, I work in the middle of nowhere. I set a rule to turn off WiFi & bluetooth from 8am to 4:45pm when I'm at my work location. Works great to save battery. But for the movies, I still set it manually.

  10. Location services isn't that accurate by jonbryce · · Score: 2

    Currently, using wifi location, my phone thinks it is on the other side of the road from where it actually is. Accurate enough to find the nearest bus stop or whatever I'm looking for, but certainly not accurate enough to know that I am actually inside a particular screening room of a theatre rather than out in the foyer or in a shop next door. As I'm indoors, GPS or Glonass location isn't an option, and even if it was, it still isn't accurate enough for that.

  11. You wouldn't buy a screaming hat by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As someone who is aware of my surroundings and generally conscientious, I simply turn my phone to "vibrate" or even - God forbid - OFF... It works very well indeed.

    I agree with you, in this particular case. But there will be situations where I find something trivial and obvious that you find to be a pain in the ass, and vice-versa. Once person might say "I'm aware of what I'm watching and it's trivial and foolproof to press fast-forward on my Tivo remote when there's a commercial" and the other person might say "I shouldn't have to do that or think about that, when I'm trying to concentrate on the actresses' boobies, so mythfrontend should automatically commercial-skip for me." One person might say "I want a padlock icon when it is a totally sure thing (except for a glossed-over list of exceptions, all of which I want to always be un-acknowledged) there is no MitM attack, and I want lack of an icon when the certainty is less than 100.00%; I don't want to think about grey areas and degrees of certainty" and another person might prefer a realistic UI which says "MiTM is probably not happening" or "MitM is very very likely not happening" or "The level of conspiracy required for a MitM right now, has precedent." or "You only have one stranger's assurance that nothing shady is going on, and betrayal would require no conspiracy at all."

    We say just a little awareness and common sense solves the problem, maybe because our phones happen to be something we sometimes think about, for whatever reasons that have emerged from our personal quirks. Someone else says "I shouldn't have to be aware of something as unimportant as the current sleep/wake state of one of my pocket computers, among the dozen items I happen to be carrying." If eyeglasses or shoes or hats sometimes spontaneously started screaming in response to external activity, that same person might want the behavior automatically suppressed at some times, whereas you and I would probably raise an eyebrow at the thought of ever buying a screaming hat in the first place, because we already have enough to worry about (our phones) without having to worry about screaming hats.

    Different strokes for different folks.

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    1. Re:You wouldn't buy a screaming hat by Sepodati · · Score: 2

      Actually, from reading further down it looks like there is a claim 6 that triggers this based on a signal from a wifi access point.

  12. Re:Why are US people so annoying with their phones by erroneus · · Score: 2

    Because in the US rudeness varies a lot as do our other personality attributes. There are some ethnic/cultural attributes which vary interestingly. For example, asian people seem to have the most positive of stereotypes where they are nearly always concerned about whether or not they are in someone else's way. They never want to be rude. Black people tend to be the opposite as they never seem to care when they are in the way of anyone else, talking TO the movies and more. White and hispanic people seem to vary more in the middle of the spectrum. I think it's also important to note that while the stereotypes are "generally" true, I know some black people who simply do not fit the description at all as well as a few asians who aren't very 'asian.' But everyone seems increasingly comfortable talking about the problem of black people in the movie theaters so why can't we tell the rest of the truth and be okay with it?

    I guess it would have been enough to say "we have a lot of different types of people and personalities in the US and we don't think or act the same." But sometimes I like to elaborate.