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No, Life Has Not Been Found In a Meteorite

The Bad Astronomer writes "News is going around the web that a scientist in the UK has found life (in the form of microscopic diatoms) in a meteorite, and has even published a paper about it. However, there are a lot of reasons to strongly doubt the claim. While the diatoms appear to be real, they are certainly from Earth. The meteorite itself, on the other hand, does not appear to be real. Many of the basic scientific steps and claims made in the paper are very shaky. Also, the scientist making the claim, N. C. Wickramasinghe, has made many fringe claims like this in the past with little or no evidence (such as the flu and SARS being viruses from space). To top it off, the website that published the paper, the Journal of Cosmology, has an interesting history of publishing fringe claims unsupported by strong evidence. All in all, this claim of life in a space rock is at best highly doubtful, and in reality almost certainly not true."

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  1. Re:But the Higgs Boson--still good on that, right? by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's actually called the God-damned particle, you insensitive physicist!

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  2. Try MY science. by Kozz · · Score: 4, Funny

    I refute the claims by Wickramasinghe due to the fact that his name is an anagram for Kiwi Ashcan Germ.

    Q.E.D.

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  3. No life inside by PPH · · Score: 4, Funny

    The top had been unscrewed from the inside and it was empty by the time scientists found it.

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

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  4. This IS important by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There have been too many sloppy science news the last decades.

    Please, recall when president Clinton was fooled into saying they had found a rock from Mars, on Earth!!! A few days ago, there was another rock from Mars, also found on Earth. The arguments why these terrestrial rocks were from Mars is sadly weak.

    Another Clintonian Mars or even a Piltdown Man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man) is what we all should dread.

    Pushing the barrier between bad towards dishonest science is NOT good at all.

    If we can once again ascertain that NO extraterrestrial life has been found, the better.

    1. Re:This IS important by zAPPzAPP · · Score: 4, Informative

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_meteorite

      Apparently 'they' have found rocks from Mars, many times...

  5. Yeah, it's a diatom, but seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    No question those are diatoms. More specifically, most are pennate ones (Order Pennales), although there is a picture of a filamentous Centrales diatom in the appendix. But why the hell they would base the in-situ interpretation on an elemental analysis rather than identifying the species present and seeing if "coincidentally" they happened to be the same species as ones found in the local freshwater lakes and streams is a bit of a mystery.

    The paper isn't exactly rigorous. For one thing they say diatoms date back to the Cretaceous/Tertiary boundary. No, they date back to the Jurassic Period -- considerably earlier. Furthermore they attribute them to marine environments. No, they are found in marine and freshwater environments. They are also commonly observed as thin crusts on rocks in moist environments (i.e. it doesn't have to be standing or flowing water, just wet). "Hydrated silicon dioxide polymer"? Well, I suppose. But most people who actually work on them call it opaline silica (which is indeed the same thing, it's just weird terminology to use). I don't know what they mean by "fossilized". Diatoms don't have to "fossilize" in the sense of any mineralization or alteration being necessary. They're already opaline silica. All that has to happen for them to preserve for the long term is not dissolve away, and silica is already pretty low solubility, essentially glass. Diatoms are generally quite durable structures.

    Not much of a peer review, that's for sure. It's pretty obvious this is almost certainly modern contamination. They don't provide a speck of useful information showing that it's not. A bunch of EDX chemical analyses merely confirm the composition. So what? It would have been a lot more useful to make a petrographic thin section and figure out the relationship of the diatoms to the mineral grains in the rock.

    This is an extraordinary claim, but the case is extraordinarily weak.

  6. Re:Ad Hominem by Shimbo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pure Ad Hominem attack. No content here. Invalid content is invalid innately regardless of source, similarly valid content is valid regardless of source. It doesn't matter if the guy stands by the subway station carrying a sign that says magical leprechauns whisper in his ear it has no impact on the validity of his statements.

    Not at all, the guy has a history of making dubious claims. It's perfectly reasonable to assign him a low a priori probablity of being correct. Sure, you could look at the evidence but life is too short to follow up every crank. It's not worth wasting the time reading if it can't even get published in a respectable journal.

  7. Re:Amazing Prejudice by tragedy · · Score: 4, Informative

    The racist attack in the GP post certainly deserved some scorn. As for the people themselves, I don't know much about Wikramasinghe, but I know that Hoyle was brilliant and accomplished and also a bit of an over-opinionated nut. His absurd position on the authenticity of Archaeopteryx attests to that. Wikramasinghe was apparently his student and shared many of his ideas, including the ones about Archaeopteryx. It seems to me that they formed some pretty solid theories about the cosmological origins of various molecules fundamental to known life, along with some less sound, but still compelling theories about the origins of life itself, and then some over the top wild speculation and wishful thinking.

  8. Re:Next thing you know, you'll demand peer review by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hah! If you live in England, "peer review" is The Sun pouring scorn on the private lives of the members of House of Lords.

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  9. Re:Ad Hominem by oodaloop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pointing out past history is not ad hominem; it's part of how we judge reliability of sources. An ad hominem attack is when your retort sounds more like, "Yo momma!".

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