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Judge Rules Twitter Images Cannot Be Used Commercially

New submitter trekkie314 writes "Reuters reports that a Manhattan District Judge has ruled that AFP and the Washington Post infringed a photographer's copyright by re-using photos he posted on his Twitter account. The judge rejected AFP's claim that a Twitter post was equivalent to making the images available for anyone to use (drawing a distinction between allowing users to re-tweet within the social network and the commercial use of content). The judge also ruled against the photographer's request that he be compensated for each person that viewed the photos, ruling instead that damages would be granted once per infringing image only. This last point might have interesting implications in file-sharing cases — can it set a precedent against massive judgments against peer-to-peer file-sharers?"

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  1. Yay double standards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If an individual were to tweet an image originally made available on a large corporation's website, you can bet the Judge would rule that damages would be granted per each viewing of it.

    1. Re:Yay double standards by Zordak · · Score: 4, Informative

      If an individual were to tweet an image originally made available on a large corporation's website, you can bet the Judge would rule that damages would be granted per each viewing of it.

      No they wouldn't. Statutory damages for copyrights are always awarded per infringed work. The only discretion for the fact finder is the amount, which can vary anywhere between $200 for innocent infringement to $150,000 for willful infringement. But it is always per work, which means that it doesn't matter if two people saw it or ten million. This is exactly what is happening in the RIAA file sharing cases, by the way. The damages are so large because there are lots of infringed works (e.g., if you shared 10 songs, damages could be up to $1.5 million).

      If you want damages based on how many people saw the picture, you would have to prove those as actual damages, either by proving that there is a profit per view attributable to the infringer, or that there is a profit you lost per infringing view. That's a lot harder than just collecting statutory damages.

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  2. Damages ruling isn't unusual by HaqDiesel · · Score: 2

    Damages for copyright infringement are always set on a per-work (rather than per-copy) basis, whatever the context. Judgments are huge in file sharing cases because they typically involve multiple tracks, each of which can fetch up to $750,000 if willful infringement is found.

    1. Re:Damages ruling isn't unusual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Note to self: Release each panel of my comic book as its own work.

    2. Re:Damages ruling isn't unusual by gnasher719 · · Score: 2

      Up to $150,000 per work in statutory damages, not $750,000. Not that it is much less ridiculous for some random file sharer. Above that, actual damages need to be proven (good luck with that).

  3. Re:terms of service by Dahamma · · Score: 2

    It may be spelled out for *Twitter's* commercial use, but not for any company that wants to take your image and use it for themselves.

  4. Perpetual license by bondsbw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The judge also ruled against the photographer's request that he be compensated for each person that viewed the photos, ruling instead that damages would be granted once per infringing image only.

    Once damages are granted for an image, would this ruling indicate that the defendant would be able to continue infringement without ever paying again?

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    1. Re:Perpetual license by geekoid · · Score: 2

      Once you are convicted of a crime, are you free to do that crime again without punishment?

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    2. Re:Perpetual license by Cyberax · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, they would still need to acquire a license to this image. Damages only cover the past infringements.

  5. Go Judge by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This seems like a fair and informed judgment to me. I don't think the photographer could harmed more by each view, and the distinction between re-use on Twitter and re-use elsewhere is a nuance I wouldn't expect most judges to understand. Let's hope he gets some filesharing cases and tells the RIAA they're owed $0.99 per song and no more.

  6. Once per infringing image by girlinatrainingbra · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's a bit ambiguous: does "once per infringing image" mean -- "once per image infringed", so that Agence-Presse-Francais and the Washington Post would only pay half of the cost each per each image infringed
    -- "once per infringing use [posting or publishing, not per view] of image", so that whatever the "use cost" of the image is, the Post would have to pay full use cost, and AFP would also have to pay full use cost.

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    I can actually see the point and usefulness of "per view" of image, because I would guess that the contractual or negotiated "use cost" of the image would be different for different uses:

    -- smaller payment for a small magazine with low distribution and readers
    -- larger payment for a large magazine with large distribution and lots of readers
    -- even larger payment for exclusive publication rights (which helps magazines sell even more copies, and also helps tabloid newspapers with paparazzi photos)
    -- some other negotiated fee for web usage, with a sliding scale for number of impressions / views / click throughs.

    So it would make sense that a web site that copied it and had a lot of page views of the image ought to pay more for infringing it than a web site that didn't. Unless of course, you bring in "statutory damages" which will not require bringing in any proof of dollar loss, merely prroof of copyright infringement.
    Etrange. Tres etrange.

  7. Bad Judge, No Bribe For You by pseudorand · · Score: 2

    Okay, who's the wise guy who let common sense into the court room. That judge should be severely reprimanded for ignoring the natural order of the Military-Industrial Complex.

  8. You're about 60 years too late by Safety+Cap · · Score: 4, Informative
    Long ago, if you didn't post a copyright notice on your work, it would lose copyright protection. That was changed by our brave congresscritters (may Sonny Bono rot in hell!)

    Now copyright applied the moment the work is fixed.

    Unless someone posts it Public Domain or one of the CC flavors, it is Copyrighted, period.*

    *US only. YMMV, especially if you're a foreigner, living in some country where everyone speaks backwards, wears funny clothes and eats smelly food. Also, the music! Don't get me started.

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    1. Re:You're about 60 years too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      *US only. YMMV, especially if you're a foreigner, living in some country where everyone speaks backwards, wears funny clothes and eats smelly food. Also, the music! Don't get me started.

      Actually...the Berne Convention is an international agreement that was lead to the US changing its laws, rather than a decision by any lawmakers in the US.

    2. Re:You're about 60 years too late by steelfood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      a foreigner, living in some country where everyone speaks backwards, wears funny clothes and eats smelly food. Also, the music! Don't get me started.

      That's what happens when you don't have strong copyright controls. Especially the part about eating smelly food. Only with strong copyright controls will your food be completely bland and odorless.

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    3. Re:You're about 60 years too late by akpoff · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Berne Convention was written and first formally accepted in 1886...but not by the United States. The US steadfastly refused to adopt the convention because it would have required large changes to our copyright laws and acceptance of doctrines like author's moral rights for which we don't have analogous protections.

      The US did eventually adopt the Berne Convention and did so in the only way permitted by our Constitution: Congress passed the Berne Convention Implementation Act of 1988. The US Senate then formally ratified the Berne Convention making the US a signatory to the treaty.

      So yes, (some) US lawmakers did make a decision that resulted in changing our copyright laws.

      The OP, however, is not correct in his oblique suggestion that Sonny Bono is in part or whole to blame. (Though I have no doubt Sonny Bono supported it.) Sonny Bono's name is sometimes attached to the Copyright Extension Act of 1998 but he did not vote for it. (Though he had sponsored similar legislation earlier.) He died nine months before it's passage. His wife Mary, who was elected to his Congressional seat after his death, was instrumental in getting it passed in his name.

      Berne Convention
      Copyright Extension Act

    4. Re:You're about 60 years too late by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually the initial resistance to Berne was mostly because the US infringed copyright on a massive commercial scale. Books published in Europe were being reproduced in the US royalty free and sold for a profit, and then later on the same thing happened with sound recordings and movies.

      The US changed its copyright laws the moment it became economically beneficial to do so.

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  9. Re:terms of service by Dahamma · · Score: 2

    Yeah, it would be about as likely as you being able to download a photo from the Washington Post and use it just because they had a license to it from the original photographer.

    A contract is a contract. People can claim otherwise on slashdot, but in the vast majority of cases the courts interpret the law correctly and don't make arbitrary decisions against clearly written agreements.

  10. cannot ?! by Barryke · · Score: 3, Informative

    Can not be used commercially? Of course they can! They just need ask the owner first.. isn't this common sense in the US? In the Netherlands it is. News reporters contact people and ask for their consent before reusing the image they made and posted online.
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    1. Re:cannot ?! by steelfood · · Score: 2

      Common sense does not dictate corporations' actions here. It's all about who you can intimidate and what you can get away with.

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  11. "can it set a precedent"? by DaveV1.0 · · Score: 2

    No, it can't because it relies on other precedents and concepts. Specifically, the idea that transient cached data doesn't require a license or infringe. The judge ruled the only infringing copie were the ones displayed on the websites and not the ones created by web browsers caching the web pages. So called "file sharing" deliberately creates multiple infringing copies of a work. These are not transient cached copies created incidentally, but intentionally created "permanent" copies.

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  12. Re:Missing the point. by qubezz · · Score: 5, Informative

    >> Why didn't the owners of AFP and The Post just pay him off?

    AFP didn't just not pay him off, after the photographer's agent sent take-down notices to AFP, AFP sued him. Then they sent a message over the wire service to kill all of Morel's own images, but not the identical images that had been sent out initially under the false credit.

    AFP deserves even more of a serious courtroom smackdown equivalent

  13. Re:Missing the point. by sconeu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Aren't AFP the guys who want Google to pay them for just LINKING to their content?

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  14. Injunction by Turminder+Xuss · · Score: 2

    Damages cover past infringement, an injunction can issue restraining future infringement. Breach of the injunction is a contempt which can result in imprisonment or fines which are not discharged by bankruptcy.

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