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Messenger App Brings Free VoIP to US Facebook Users — At a Price

The Washington Post (among many others) reports on a development from Facebook that may excite many more users than does the much-hyped announcement about richer search capabilities: after launching a Canadian trial balloon not long ago, Facebook is expanding the reach of its free in-app VoiP communications with free voice comms via the company's smartphone app. "Excite" for some people will also mean "infuriate": to get the free candy, the recipient will need to have shared his or her number with Facebook, which many people will understandably be loath to do. From the WaPo article: "To use the feature, Facebook users must hit the 'i' info icon in the corner or a conversation or contact information page. That panel has a 'Free Call' button that you can use if your friend has shared a mobile number with Facebook and is available for a call. The company slowly has been building out the features available in chat — most notably with the 2011 Skype partnership that put video calling on the Web version of its site. When it released Facebook Messenger last fall, it became even clearer that messaging and mobile applications were priorities for the company."

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  1. Share a mobile vs. land line number by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That panel has a 'Free Call' button that you can use if your friend has shared a mobile number with Facebook

    Based only on the summary, it appears this won't work for someone who has a land line and a Wi-Fi-only tablet, such as an iPod touch, iPad, Nexus 7, etc. The article mentions the iPod but doesn't say one way or the other whether there's a provision for iPod touch users.

  2. Irrational by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no way for this service to work if Facebook doesn't have the reciepients number. Someone must have the recipients number in order for a connection to be created. Getting angry over that seems really irrational. Putting your phone number in Facebook is a step above putting it in the phonebook. At least with Facebook you can restrict viewing the info to friends or friends of friends.

    1. Re:Irrational by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At least with Facebook you can restrict viewing the info to friends or friends of friends.

      And any advertiser Facebook decides they want to share it with.

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    2. Re:Irrational by krakelohm · · Score: 2

      Right, you have to have the app installed but you dont need to give them your phone number. Facetime can bet setup to use either your phone number or an email, not sure about yahoo.

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    3. Re:Irrational by Dishevel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Good for you.
      Me. I do not give a shit.
      I share nothing with Facebook and will continue to not use it.
      I do not find my life empty and without purpose. I am not missing invites to my (real) friends birthday parties or get togethers.
      I have about 40 - 50 people in my life. Friends, family and co workers I give a shit about. I find no need of having 500 -600 Facebook "friends".
      Not sure how I would have a life if I had 500 real life friends. Even with social networking to make it a bit easier.
      I think that many people do not even know what a friend is anymore.
      My life is full and I have 10% of the "friends" that many Facebook users have.

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    4. Re:Irrational by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2

      Allowing advertisers to directly contact users would go against Facebooks entire business model, which is to be the middleman that matches advertisers to users and takes money off the top. Of all the things that worry me about Facebook, them selling my info directly to advertisers is not one of them.

  3. Laugh by koan · · Score: 2

    Disguised as a VOIP feature it is the surest way to confirm who owns that Facebook page and get a sample of your voice as well.

    Why?

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    1. Re:Laugh by derfy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Duh. So you can hack together:

      "Hello. I am the system administrator. My voice is my passport. Verify me."

  4. That's how they'll jump to mobile phone spamming. by Ollabelle · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The warnings in Facebook's reports to the SEC always mention advertising revenue on mobile phones as one of their challenges. And this is how they will build their database of mobile phone numbers.

    At some point, they'll "streamline" the privacy settings so the numbers will be shareable, visible, etc. so the advertising revenue can start coming in.

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  5. Correct Number by jsm18 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Has anyone tried to do this with an incorrect phone number? If the call is locating you based on your Facebook ID, then the phone number shouldn't matter, but who knows how Facebook implemented the feature.

    I don't have an iPhone, or I would check this myself.

    1. Re:Correct Number by Technician · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I wonder if a Google Voice cell phone would work. It does text and voice. I can forward the call or not for a do not bug me mode. I have a Google Voice number I give out to salesmen and scammers to protect my regular cell phone.

      I use my GV number to call back collection agencies that keep calling my landline looking for it's prior owner to complain. If I call from another number to complain, they don't put it in their database that someone took the call.

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  6. My cell phone air time is not free by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hence this service which depends on it is not either.

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  7. A better way to collect data on you.... by realsilly · · Score: 2

    ... and now not only all your Facebook Posts with the person you're having an affair with won't be the only thing used in divorce court. Now all your instant messages and the actual discussions you've had with your lover will be fodder for the Cheated on spouse in an UGLY divorce.

    Oh what a time it is for divorce attorneys.

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  8. Anyone remember Dialpad? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

    15 years ago you could get free calls to any US landline from the browser without even (as far as I recall) requiring a login. What happened to you, Internet? You used to be cool.

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  9. This just in... by Jawnn · · Score: 2

    ...Facebook gives me yet another reason to raise my middle finger at them. The sad part is that a big lot of Facebook users will think that this new "service" is just swell.