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Australian Scientists Discover Potential Aids Cure

smi.james.th writes "Several sites report that Australian researcher David Harrich and his team have potentially discovered a way to stop HIV becoming AIDS and ultimately cure the disease. From the article: 'What we've actually done is taken a normal virus protein that the virus needs to grow, and we've changed this protein, so that instead of assisting the virus, it actually impedes virus replication and does it quite strongly.' This could potentially hail one of modern medicine's greatest victories."

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  1. Let us celebrate.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let us celebrate with a trip to the brothel!

    1. Re:Let us celebrate.. by Cryacin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's all hope for the public's sake that this does not turn out to be another "cure for AIDS", as has been heralded many times over the last decade.

      Besides that, there are plenty of other nasty, nasty diseases that you can catch apart from AIDS, such as Hepatitis C for instance. It would be interesting to see infection rates of other STD's increase if there isn't a fear disease like AIDS out there to promote the use of prophylactics.

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    2. Re:Let us celebrate.. by sjames · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, it has the potential to be much better than current treatments though it wouldn't actually be a cure. IF (and as always it's a big if) it really forces HIV to become latent, the patient would have a normal immune system and probably fewer side effects than with current drugs.

      But it wouldn't be a cure, just a very effective lifelong treatment.

    3. Re:Let us celebrate.. by jkflying · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The trouble is that there *have* been a number of cures/vaccines, but HIV mutates so quickly that they were quickly rendered ineffective. HIV can differ significantly even between somebody and the person they were infected by, all depending on how their immune system responds to the infection and what drugs they are given.

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    4. Re:Let us celebrate.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      This in no way arms the body with immune cells that are resistant to infection. This is a virostatic agent, that will stop the virus from replicating inside immune cells. But it does not block free virus from infecting new cells.

    5. Re:Let us celebrate.. by c0lo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      IF (and as always it's a big if) it really forces HIV to become latent, the patient would still be a host even when having a normal immune system

      FTFY

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    6. Re:Let us celebrate.. by mrbluze · · Score: 4, Informative

      The trouble is that there *have* been a number of cures/vaccines, but HIV mutates so quickly that they were quickly rendered ineffective. HIV can differ significantly even between somebody and the person they were infected by, all depending on how their immune system responds to the infection and what drugs they are given.

      The difference here is that the treatment targets several stages of the HIV "life-cycle". In micribiology targeting a single point of weakness of an organism is relatively quickly circumvented, but targeting many points of weakness has a much more devastating effect.

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  2. Still a long ways to go by Megahard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just starting animal trials. Too early to know if it's really going to work.

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    1. Re:Still a long ways to go by mrbluze · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just starting animal trials. Too early to know if it's really going to work.

      The preliminary results of the animal trials are startlingly good, and in an interview the chief researcher said he believes the approval cycle will be short (ie: less than 5 years) because of the probability that this therapy will pass safety trials etc. We'll have to wait and see of course.

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  3. Re:This will never get approved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A big contributing factor toward why Australia's medical research is so strong at an international scale is the fact it's often academic and/or ultimately government funded.

    The Australian government doesn't care about big pharma (which doesn't have an especially large presence in AU, relatively speaking) making profits, it cares about better health care for it's people, so they live longer, work longer, and pay more taxes.

  4. Re:This will never get approved by mandginguero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It doesn't matter if it isn't approved. If there is a mechanism published in the science literature to treat the disease, someone will be able to experiment with it in another country. Think about some of the African/Asian countries who have said to hell with Western patents on drug formulas and make their own. If a country can produce these compounds then they most likely have the means to run clinical trials.

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  5. Re:This will never get approved by Suhas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cancer is not one disease but many many diseases under the same banner. In fact, the same type of cancer can be completely different diseases in different people.
    See here.
    I would suggest you refrain from making idiotic remarks about subjects you have no clue about.

  6. Re:This will never get approved by reverseengineer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This would be a gene therapy treatment- using viral vector to express a mutant protein in your cells. Last year, the European Medicines Agency approved a gene therapy treatment for the first time (no approvals in the US currently). Glybera is indicated for lipoprotein lipase deficiency, a rare disorder that affects fatty acid metabolism. Glybera uses a viral vector to deliver a working copy of the LPL gene to cells; this proposed AIDS treatment would deliver a nonworking copy of TAT to infected cells in a similar fashion. I bring up Glybera for comparison purposes because it is expected to cost over 1 million dollars a patient for a course of treatment. Eventually, gene therapy may become such a routine way of creating treatments that costs will be very low. That is not the present situation.

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  7. Re:question on the cure by reverseengineer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gene therapy, in short. They would infect you with a virus (probably a retrovirus, ironically enough) that carries a mutant copy of the HIV-1 Tat gene. Normal Tat is a gene that drastically increases HIV production. HIV hijacks the machinery of human T-cells to make copies of its own genes. The protein that Tat codes for has a nasty trick- it binds to transcription factors in your cells and and increases their output- more HIV production, which includes more Tat production, which causes more HIV production, and the disease explosively progresses. It is thought that reaching a critical mass of Tat is a key element in the transition from HIV infection to AIDS. But if you had a mutant Tat that counteracted this activity, HIV production would only occur at a baseline rate- you'd never get that Tat-HIV-Tat positive feedback.

    Here's the article abstract which has some of the technical details. MLV is the murine (mouse) leukemia virus.

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  8. Re:This will never get approved by sFurbo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a business why would I want to cure a person when I can keep making money by offering lifetime treatments?. That's just how it is with big Pharma, most intelligent people know this.

    Big Pharma is actually more than one company, and company A doesn't care whether their cure for disease X makes the treatment of company B irrelevant.

    If they started actually curing everything, their profits would fall and the markets would tank.

    Because people can only get cancer once, and old people are not a better stream of revenue than young people, because Alzheimer medicine is not expensive.

  9. Re:This will never get approved by mjwx · · Score: 5, Informative

    A big contributing factor toward why Australia's medical research is so strong at an international scale is the fact it's often academic and/or ultimately government funded.

    The Australian government doesn't care about big pharma (which doesn't have an especially large presence in AU, relatively speaking) making profits, it cares about better health care for it's people, so they live longer, work longer, and pay more taxes.

    Big Pharma are around, I used to work next to the Pfizer factory in Perth but they have three huge hindrances in Australia.

    1. They aren't allowed to advertise prescription medicine.
    2. They aren't allowed to offer payola to doctors for using their drugs. Both the doctor and the company get busted if they get caught.
    3. Generics are readily available. Instead of buying Panadol (Tylanol) I can get Brand X paracetamol/codeine which is the same recipe but 1/4 the price. The same is true for most prescription drugs.

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  10. Re:This will never get approved by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. They aren't allowed to advertise prescription medicine.
    2. They aren't allowed to offer payola to doctors for using their drugs. Both the doctor and the company get busted if they get caught.

    You've just described the developed world... except for the USA and New Zealand.
    Everyone else has strong limitations on direct-to-consumer-advertising, or an outright ban.

    3. Generics are readily available. Instead of buying Panadol (Tylanol) I can get Brand X paracetamol/codeine which is the same recipe but 1/4 the price. The same is true for most prescription drugs.

    As it turns out, generics aren't necessarily equivalent to the original perscription drug.
    Since it's late, you get the first article I found on Google
    It's a fair representation of the other articles I've read on the subject.

    The TLDR version is that generics don't always make the same amount of drug available to the patient
    and even if they do, the drug may not be released in the same fashion, leading to early or late peaks of the drug.

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  11. Re:This will never get approved by wvmarle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Healthy people do not just pay more taxes (which is a nice side effect, but then far from everyone pays taxes), they cost a lot less in the long run on health care. Which is the main reason many governments try to stop people from smoking, for example. And which is one of the reasons they promote sports and general exercise.

  12. Re:This will never get approved by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Protip: Medicines with the same Product License Number are the same. The number has to be printed on the packaging. If you compare various over-the-counter painkillers, for example, you will find that the cheap own-brand ones, the branded ones, the fast actions ones, the long lasting ones and the premium max strength ones all have the same Product License Number and are in fact exactly the same.

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