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New Asteroid Mining Company Emerges

coondoggie writes "A new company intends by 2015 to send a fleet of tiny satellites to mine passing asteroids for high-value metals. Deep Space Industries Inc.'s asteroid mining proposal begins in 2015, when the company plans to send out a squadron of 55lb cubesats, called Fireflies, that will explore near-Earth space for two to six months looking for target asteroids. The company's CEO said, 'Using resources harvested in space is the only way to afford permanent space development. More than 900 new asteroids that pass near Earth are discovered every year. They can be like the Iron Range of Minnesota was for the Detroit car industry last century — a key resource located near where it was needed. In this case, metals and fuel from asteroids can expand the in-space industries of this century. That is our strategy.'"

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  1. The funniest thing would be... by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 4, Interesting

    if after they made their own mine tailings, they noticed that there were already mine tailings there.

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  2. Meh by fellip_nectar · · Score: 4, Funny

    I bet you a hundred dollarpounds they get bought out by the Jupiter Mining Corporation

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    1. Re:Meh by urbanriot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or Weyland Industries

  3. This is a joke. by jandrese · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How much do you know about Asteroid Mining? Not much. And neither do these guys, because nobody has tried it before and there are still more unknowns than knowns. What I do know is that 2015, two years from now, is a totally and completely unrealistic goal. They would have to have surveys of potential candidates already done, launch windows nailed down, hardware completed and ready to go, support staff trained and ready, mineral recovery solution built, etc... You would be hard pressed to open a mine on Earth in just two years time, and Earth mining doesn't have astronomical launch costs. A 2015 timeline tells me that these guys are either insane or a scam.

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    1. Re:This is a joke. by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Informative

      As usual, Slashdot summary is wrong. They're not starting mining in 2015, they're sending out their "scout" sats to find potential candidates. You'll find that information in the second sentence, neatly contradicting the first sentence.

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    2. Re:This is a joke. by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 5, Interesting

      How much do you know about Asteroid Mining?

      Quite a lot, actually. It's part of the space systems engineering textbook I'm writing

      What I do know is that 2015, two years from now, is a totally and completely unrealistic goal.

      That is not an unrealistic goal to launch prospector spacecraft. Coondoggie's article summary mangles what they intend to do, and you misread it further. Their actual website lists three stages: Prospecting craft to find the asteroids, assay missions to bring back ~20 kg samples, and only then trying to actually mine. This is a sensible plan.

      In the mean time, I hope to start building prototype "seed factory" hardware this year. A seed factory is the minimal starter set of machines to start building *other* machines, which in turn becomes your industrial base. Think of it like a bootstrap compiler for hardware. Feed it plans for other machines, it starts making parts. I'm aiming for making 85% of the 2nd generation machines, because 100% is too hard a goal. The other 15% you just buy.

    3. Re:This is a joke. by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, now you're being deliberately wrong. They plan to send out scouts (Fireflies) in 2015. In 2016 they plan to bring back very light samples (Dragonflies). They don't even give an estimated time to begin production mining (Harvesters).

      Deep Space Industries asteroid mining proposal begins in 2015 when the company plans to send out a squadron of 55lb cubesats called Fireflies that will explore near-Earth space for two to six months looking for target asteroids

      Then in 2016, Deep Space said it will begin launching 70-lb DragonFlies for round-trip visits that bring back samples. The DragonFly expeditions will take two to four years, depending on the target, and will return 60 to 150 lbs of asteroid materiel. ...

      A much larger spacecraft known as a Harvestor-class machine could "return thousands of tons per year, producing water, propellant, metals, building materials and shielding for everything we do in space in decades to come.

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    4. Re:This is a joke. by cusco · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not sure 'wildly optimistic' is really valid. They're not planning to start mining in three years, they're going to launch a bunch of small, simple, slow, stupid spacecraft with a few sensors. (The summary says 'cubesat', which is a one liter 1.3 kilo cube, but it's wrong as usual.) These are probably less complex than the Mariner spacecraft, and the principles behind construction of the various components are well-understood. Yeah, it's rocket science, but we know a lot about building spacecraft now.

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  4. Re:I dont see this working by dreamchaser · · Score: 3, Informative

    The cubesats are to explore, not mine. First you need to find likely targets. If you bothered reading the article you'd see they will be using slightly larger vehicles to bring back small payloads.

  5. Re:I dont see this working by smpoole7 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > the funding for this endeavor is a bit of a question mark

    Unless and until they discover an asteroid, in a favorable orbit, that has large deposits of rhodium, or palladium, or platinum, or gold. (Or even copper.)

    That will bring in the speculative investors.

    Once they demonstrate that they can bring these minerals back to earth at a profit, then they will have screaming investors climbing over one another to put up money for it.

    I was arguing years ago that we ought to be doing this. I'm TIRED of the whiny, "only one Earth and we're running out of resources" bullcrap. If they can make this work -- and I give them an even 50/50 chance -- it'll be as revolutionary as the invention of the wheel.

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  6. Hugely cool, 3d-printing in space a bonus by Fubari · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is hugely cool, it gives me hope for our species' future. I hope they're wildly successful.

    Also cool was this blurb near the end of the article on zero-g 3D Printing

    Deep Space's construction activities will be aided by a patent-pending 3D printer called the MicroGravity Foundry, officials said. "The MicroGravity Foundry is the first 3D printer that creates high-density, high-strength metal components even in zero gravity," company co-founder and MicroGravity Foundry inventor Stephen Covey said in a statement. "Other metal 3D printers sinter powdered metal, which requires a gravity field and leaves a porous structure, or they use low-melting point metals with less strength."

    1. Re:Hugely cool, 3d-printing in space a bonus by VortexCortex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I really get annoyed when people describe something they've thought of (or something they've found) as something they've invented.

      Then be prepared to get bent: When I was 10 years old I independently invented masturbation. I tried to keep it secret for almost a year, but only while I studied the effects because I thought I'd be rich beyond dreams someday after I patented the process... I even let a few of my close friends in on the revolutionary discovery, contingent upon their swearing to not reveal the technique.

      It was their own fault, but still you could imagine my parent's consternation: "Mom, Dad, I need $375 to file a patent... I figured out a new way to, um, touch... things that is really amazing! You're not going to believe this..."

      Now, when I look back I'm not embarrassed, I'm angry that the information wasn't readily available.
      The point is: Perhaps your annoyance is aimed in the wrong direction. I mean, either A) Everyone knows about 3D printing tech, and they're just describing for completeness, or B) They think they're Wanktomus Prime and can't wait to tell everyone about being the first wankers ever... Would you really be annoyed in either instance? Life's too short to be pissed off all the time; I suggest substituting humor in place of annoyance and sarcasm in place of outrage.

  7. Re: I dont see this working by tragedy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm fairly certain that, in microgravity, with my feet strapped down, I could take a 5000 kilogram dumbell sitting at my feet with my hands and lift it up over my head. I couldn't do it very quickly, due to inertia, and I would have to start working against my initial movements at about the halfway mark to stop it from yanking itself out of my hands (or yanking off my hands) at full extension.

  8. Re: I dont see this working by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3

    Tragedy has a much better grasp of "strength" than you seem to have. You must overcome inertia in space, but not gravity or friction. Hence, much less strength is required to move an object. Picking up a quarter ton on the moon is about as easy as lifting a hundred pounds on earth. With even smaller microgravities, you might pick up two or three tons. But, inertia might get you killed, unless you're experienced in those microgravities. Pick up a ton, without planning how you're going to stop that mass moving, and it may very well crash through your sunroof, inducing explosive decompression in all the occupants of your habitat.

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  9. Re:I dont see this working by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    50/50 chance? You're talking about the original investors and original staff, I take it.

    Given that they are almost as likely to fail as they are to succeed, what happens when they go under? Someone buys up their assets, right? They will have left some valuable tools up there, and someone will want to claim them, maybe for pennies on the dollar. That someone will have a somewhat different plant, and succeed where the first team failed. Or, something like that.

    Bottom line, for me, is that they are accumulating experience and knowledge in the attempt. We, mankind, will build on that, and eventually succeed.

    Everything needed for exploration and colonization is already out there. All we need do is figure out how to use them. Success depends only on our initiative.

    Two thumbs up for initiative!

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  10. Re:I dont see this working by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > the funding for this endeavor is a bit of a question mark

    Unless and until they discover an asteroid, in a favorable orbit, that has large deposits of rhodium, or palladium, or platinum, or gold. (Or even copper.)

    That will bring in the speculative investors.

    Once they demonstrate that they can bring these minerals back to earth at a profit, then they will have screaming investors climbing over one another to put up money for it.

    I was arguing years ago that we ought to be doing this. I'm TIRED of the whiny, "only one Earth and we're running out of resources" bullcrap. If they can make this work -- and I give them an even 50/50 chance -- it'll be as revolutionary as the invention of the wheel.

    If it was gold the 'speculators' would be paying you a fuckton of cash just to forget you ever saw it and destroy all record of it. Or, failing that, pay very expensive hit men to get rid of the asteroid prospectors.

    There could be enough gold come from asteroid mining to completely destroy its value. That would be hilarious and I'd love to see it happen, but the wealth of the gold cartels is, well, astronomical and they'd like to keep it that way.

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