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Pod2g Confirms iOS 6, iOS 6.1 Beta 4 Untethered Jailbreak

hypnosec writes "Well known iOS security researcher Pod2g has confirmed that a working untethered iOS 6 jailbreak is ready and would be released as soon as iOS 6.1 GM is released. In an interview with iDigitalTimes, the security researcher has revealed that they are already in possession of a functional untethered iOS 6 and iOS 6.1 beta 4 jailbreak, and the majority of the work has been done by @planetbeing and @pimskeks. '6.0 is jailbroken, 6.1 beta 4 also. Now we are waiting 6.1 to confirm and release,' said the researcher. He said that the jailbreak would have been possible without him as he came into the iOS 6 jailbreak scene at a later stage and provided pointers that pushed the other researchers to the maximum."

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  1. iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license by tuppe666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Three cheers for our new digital heros.

    ...Apparently though its not Apple who are pretty much been anti-consumer for some time with EFF and others trying to keep the option of jailbreaking legal (Its still illegal on your iPad)

    This is back from 2010 http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/feds-ok-iphone-jailbreaking/ [wired.com] The PDF about Apples responce and basically jailbreaking does this,

    "Crashes & instability
    Malfunctioning & safety
    Invasion of privacy
    Exposing children to age-inappropriate content
    Viruses & malware
    Inability to update software
    Cellular network impact
    Piracy of developers’ applications
    Instability of developers’ applications
    Increased support burden
    Developer relationships
    The Apple/iPhone brand
    Limitation on ability to innovate"

    It also says your breaking Licence agreements and copyright infringement too as well as well as DMCA anti-circumvention

    Boycott Apple products...Its not like there are mass of better value alternatives, that support this.

    1. Re:iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      I think they mean business innovation, not technological. The ability to lock down hardware such that the manufacturer still retains control even after sale does enable a number of successful new business models. If the user can buy the hardware and do as they please, businesses are largely confined to the basic method of trying to sell equipment for more than it cost to manufacture.

    2. Re:iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here's one reason (but not the only one):

      Some of us, having used both, prefer iOS.

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    3. Re:iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license by jimbo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You started well by acknowledging that the top models compete on equal merits and stating your opinion that one could cater to people's needs as well as the other so there's, in your opinion, little reason to choose the more restricted brand.

      Then with that last sentence you turned into a blind religious constipated infantile hater and ruined it all ;)

    4. Re:iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license by Cinder6 · · Score: 2

      Your argument, as presented, gives no reason to prefer Android (there obviously are reasons, though). For myself, I prefer iOS over Android because the UX is much snappier and more fluid, leading to a sense that the phone/tablet itself is faster. Certain UI elements provide much better feedback on iOS than Android, such as the rubber-band effect vs. Google's "light-up" effect (not sure if this has a name). Also, other elements are more clear as to their purpose--IIRC, there are a few buttons in the Android settings app that look like toggles, but in fact are buttons that navigate to another menu.

      All of this is just a long way of saying "iOS is more polished than Android". I don't have a need for any of Android's advanced configurability, and I have yet to see another tech company beat Apple's hardware build quality.

      (Before anybody asks: The most recent Android device I used was a Nexus 7 running 4.2. I bought it for myself, but wound up returning it after a few days.)

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    5. Re:iPhone cattle explicitly agree to a ltd license by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Limitation on ability to innovate

      What the fucking fuck! They're claiming that jailbreaking reduces the ability to innovate?

      People using internal APIs that were not intended to be used, if the company cared about keeping those applications from breaking when an internal API needed to be changed, would prevent forward innovation dependent upon the internal API changing.

      However, side-loaded applications have been frequently broken, and in some cases, particularly unlocking, intentionally so.

      This has been particularly so with regard to SIM unlocks. For example, the "TurboSIM" and similar products which identified themselves as official SIMs when first queried by the baseband firmware to pass carrier lockdown check, and then on subsequent baseband requests, reported a SIM ID for operation on another carrier to get around that lockdown, were intentionally broken. The intentional breakage was implemented by updating the baseband to query the SIM ID for the carrier locked SIM on each cell handoff.

      In another example, the AnySIM software unlock was intentionally broken twice. In the first instance, there was a check added to the seczone contents, which are not updated when the baseband is updated. This was an intentional "bricking" of iPhones which had been software unlocked, when a fix was easily possible (I personally "unbricked" over 120 AnySIM unlocked phones in the SF Bay Area). In the second instance, they added cryptographic challenge/response for the baseband update to prevent additional unlocks using AnySIM by disallowing access to the NAND flash ID, which is part of what is used as the key to the TEA checksum of the seczone.

      So demonstrably, they have intentionally, rather than unintentionally, broken things which depend on internal APIs, so they are being disingenuous about saying unlocking or jailbreaking stifles their ability to innovate; they don't give a damn, they change things all the time.

  2. Re:Huh? by Gaygirlie · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, he's just giving the other two the credit they deserve and says that he wasn't required, he was only helpful in polishing the jailbreak.

  3. So hackers=researchers now? by ikaruga · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I aprove this new terminology.

  4. Re:does more harm than good. by dingen · · Score: 2

    why, again, is everyone so keen to buy devices that obey someone else?

    Because a lot of people care more about usability and functionality than openness and freedom. As long as people can use Facebook and Youtube on their iPhone, they're perfectly fine with it.

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  5. Re:Digital Robin Hoods and Ned Kellys by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    Linux has its own issues. It's a lot better than it used to be, certainly - but it suffers in a manner from great diversity. One Windows or OSX computer is almost exactly like any other - you don't have to worry about not having the correct versions of many different libraries, or system files not being in the same place on every distro. So long as you stick to the distro's own store or repository, all is well - venture outside, and trouble looms.

  6. Re:Someone explain this to me... by kimvette · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps some people prefer the iOS UI and app selection compared to Android on phone-size devices?

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  7. Re:Someone explain this to me... by MrEdofCourse · · Score: 2

    I'll try to answer this...

    I love the Apple ecosystem. I have iPads, iPods, iPhones, Apple TVs, MacBooks, etc... I love it all. There are some exceptions, like using Microsoft Office instead of iWork and Mail, but for the most part, I really love Apple's ecosystem.

    I don't want to start something here where platforms are argued, and I understand and respect other opinions, but for me... I've always had to use Windows through the years. I've developed for Windows and supported Windows for service and support. I can't stand using Windows. I find Macs and OS X to be far more elegant. I find things to be simple and easy for common tasks, but very robust for advanced tasks via the terminal and the fact that it's UNIX. I've always loved Google services, and bought a Nexus 7 to develop for Android.

    Like my distaste for Windows, I have a distaste for Android. It's incredibly messy. Tasks that should be simple can be very difficult not just to figure out, but even to do on an ongoing basis. The iPhone feels like my Mac only with a mobile optimized interface. Even a PC has this same connection, but to a lesser extent. With Android, it just feels completely isolated from my Mac or PC as if it's own device. I think that feeling is fine for many people... hell, I think all of this is fine for different people, but for me, I want to feel like my set of usage is consistent across my notebook, netbook, desktop, phone, tablet, and tv.

    I could go on and on about other things I really dislike about Android (fragmentation for example), but the bottom line is that WP8, Blackberry, WebOS, Android... iOS is what I prefer.

    So all of the above is with *stock* iOS being preferred. So then comes the question of whether I prefer jailbroken iOS versus stock iOS. For me, I much prefer to jailbreak. In part because jailbreaking in of itself doesn't really do anything. Your iPhone is exactly the same except for a little Cydia icon. From there, you can do pretty much whatever you want, and you can do it in incremental steps in any direction you want. Want to change the default Map app? Boom, it's one tweak and everything else is the same. Want to go all out and make your phone a mess? You can do that too. I tend to be mostly conservative, making changes that only add mostly productive functionality, but I do add a nice subtle animated background and a few other cosmetic enhancements.

    Also, it's not a "jumping through all these jailbreaking hoops". It's usually just a couple of months or so after a new iOS device cycle that a jailbreak is released and all you have to do is click and follow some simple instructions on the screen. It's not much different from say having a new Android OS come out and waiting before you can upgrade your device or if you buy a new device, waiting for some of your apps to upgrade for compatibility. So far, this is the longest we've had to wait for a jailbreak, and it's still much shorter than how long I've been waiting for some of my favorite apps (CNN, TiVo and others) to become compatible with my Nexus 7.

  8. Re:does more harm than good. by dingen · · Score: 2

    I'm not saying the one cancels out the other. I'm just saying people like a thing that works and is easy to use. The iPhone is that. Whether it's open or free doesn't matter to most consumers. This answers the question why people buy these sort of systems in the first place.

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  9. Irresponsible disclosure by Bogtha · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is rarely mentioned in these types of stories, but I think it's worth highlighting: jailbreaks are security vulnerabilities. If these guys know about a security vulnerability but are deliberately postponing release so that Apple don't patch it before 6.1 is released, they are deliberately choosing a course of action that harms users. Are there any other situations in which irresponsible disclosure is so accepted, or is it just when Apple are the target?

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    1. Re:Irresponsible disclosure by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      This is rarely mentioned in these types of stories, but I think it's worth highlighting: jailbreaks are security vulnerabilities. If these guys know about a security vulnerability but are deliberately postponing release so that Apple don't patch it before 6.1 is released, they are deliberately choosing a course of action that harms users. Are there any other situations in which irresponsible disclosure is so accepted, or is it just when Apple are the target?

      Happens on Android as well in order to root them or get past locked bootloaders.

      Though, these vulnerabilities are typically NOT remote accessible - you have to have physical possession of the device in order to jailbreak them. That's not to say there haven't been a few remote-accessible ones (just like there have been a few Android malware apps that root your device in order to install themselves), but they tend to be far more rare. AFAIK, only 3 versions of iOS were actually usable with jailbreakme.com.

      If you have to have physical access to do it, all bets are off anyways.