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What Early Software Was Influential Enough To Deserve Acclaim?

theodp writes "That his 28-year-old whip-smart, well-educated CS grad friend could be unaware of MacWrite and MacPaint took Dave Winer by surprise. 'They don't, for some reason,' notes Winer, 'study these [types of seminal] products in computer science. They fall between the cracks of "serious" study of algorithms and data structures, and user interface and user experience (which still is not much-studied, but at least is starting). This is more the history of software. Much like the history of film, or the history of rock and roll.' So, Dave asks, what early software was influential and worthy of a Software Hall of Fame?"

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  1. VisiCalc by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'nuff said

    1. Re:VisiCalc by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And if you want to continue:
      GeoWorks

    2. Re:VisiCalc by astralagos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. If there's a piece of software that launched the personal computing revolution, it was VisiCalc - the first software business actually _needed_. I'd also throw in: * WordStar - which was the PC world's answer to emacs. If you did text processing on DOS systems, it was done with WordStar or another program which emulated it. * WordPerfect - the word processor, I imagine that without the Windows Hegemony, Microsoft would -never- have been able to kill wordperfect * Bank Street Writer - the first -educational- word processor, I imagine X'ers like myself lived off of this in school

  2. What the fuck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whining because they don't teach Mac history 101 in CS programs?

    I sure bet the grad student heard of MS Windows, Word and Excel. I bet he's even heard of CorelDraw, Super Mario Brothers and Pong too.

    1. Re:What the fuck? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apple 2? I had Multiplan on Xenix.

      The old Xenix Microsoft produced before the PC. I still have an Altos box that runs it.

  3. Susan Kare by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He mentions Susan Kare but I'd like to give another shout out to her work. We are still using derivatives of her designs, and the brief simplicity of them really led the way for a lot of the icons we use now.

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  4. Re:Times change by mikael · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because once we forget how this software worked, someone else comes along and does a research project, thinks that they have invented something new, patents it and/or names it after themselves. Then they'll start sending lawyers after other people. I've seen this happening with something as simple as 3x3 convolution matrices and widget libraries. What was common knowledge in personal computer magazines back in the 1980's now seems to be stuff that leads
    to patent battles now.

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  5. Second for PageMaker by Nova+Express · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Without the desktop publishing revolution, it's hard to see Apple surviving long enough for Jobs to retake the helm.

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  6. Re:Times change by gbooch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OMG, please tell me you are not old enough to vote too.

    We study influential software for the same reason we study the past in any domain: to learn of the forces that shape what is, the human stories that lead to these artifacts, the design decisions and the lessons learned therein. What you see on your desktop today is the current end of a long chain of "obsolete software" that includes MacPaint, and Whirlwind, and any number of earlier systems that bring us to current dominant designs. Economically significant and useful software intensive systems all have such a legacy, and your hubris in so quickly dismissing the value of understanding anything older than your professional lifetime is staggeringly depressing to me. May you never be on any development team that has to grapple with the refactoring of legacy code.

  7. Don't forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Leisure Suit Larry

  8. Re:Influential? by jpiratefish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Turbo Pascal changed *everything* It turned Mr. Borland into a millionaire overnight, and completely changed how software is marketed, and changed the way software is developed forever.

  9. Re:Times change by vlm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have not gotten the straight answer yet, but the real world economic answer is nothing changes very much, so a well educated individual knows how the newest PR news release about a "new" idea will turn out, given how the exact same idea turned out three times in 1970, five times in the 80s, and twice in the 90s. Even if the outcome is different for tech or non-tech reasons, the challenges, successes, roadblocks, etc, will be the same this time around as the last ten times.

    Ah so you're saying that this new language will be a silver bullet which will eliminate programming as a profession because business people will write their own programs, you say? Hmm I wonder if thats ever been claimed before. Naah. If it were you'd have language names like "Business Oriented Language" and stuff.

    I've got a totally new idea! We can project manage programming by programmer-hour because the product of programmer times hour is always a constant a given problem. You'd think someone in 1960's mainframe development would have had the same idea, but people back then were pretty stupid so I'm sure my new idea is ... new.

    Hey guys, I got a new one. We could assign a noob to work with an old timer and see if the noob learns anything by osmosis. This has never been tried in all of human history so I'm gonna patent it and trademark it and I'm gonna be rich and buy a private island.

    To be honest its not as technical as you'd like to think... its kinda like studying ancient fashion to predict what future fashion will look like, seeing as womens fashion is kinda cyclical. So, you're saying after skirts go down, they tend to go up, and vice versa? Holy cow batman! Especially when dealing with trendy style high fashion like UI design or PR.

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  10. You know you've got a killer app when.... by PapayaSF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once in an interview, Dan Bricklin (IIRC) said that in the early days they personally demonstrated VisiCalc at trade show booths. Sometimes accountants would actually cry, as they realized how many hours they'd spent adding up rows and columns of numbers, and how quickly they'd be able to do it with this new piece of software.

    You know you've got a killer app when a demo causes members of your target market to realize how much your software is going to change their lives, and they burst into tears.

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