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Does US Owe the World an Education At Its Expense?

An anonymous reader writes "'Right now, there are brilliant students from all over the world sitting in classrooms at our top universities,' President Obama explained to the nation Tuesday in his pitch for immigration reform. 'They are earning degrees in the fields of the future, like engineering and computer science...We are giving them the skills to figure that out, but then we are going to turn around and tell them to start the business and create those jobs in China, or India, or Mexico, or someplace else. That is not how you grow new industries in America. That is how you give new industries to our competitors. That is why we need comprehensive immigration reform." If the President truly fears that international students will use skills learned at U.S. colleges and universities to the detriment of the United States if they return home (isn't a rising tide supposed to lift all boats?) — an argument NYC Mayor Bloomberg advanced in 2011 ('we are investing millions of dollars [actually billions] to educate these students at our leading universities, and then giving the economic dividends back to our competitors – for free') — then wouldn't another option be not providing them with the skills in the first place?"

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  1. Re:Couldn't we just charge them tuition? by cayenne8 · · Score: -1, Troll

    There is nothing atractive about the us

    Yeah..tell that to all the foreign mothers coming to the US just in time to drop their child out of the womb into the atmosphere so that they can automatically be US citizens, and have the free choice to live or be educated here.

    Just saw on news recently about a couple coming over from China, to have their kid here and then went back. That way, they got around the Chinese laws about one child per family, AND..the kid has US citizen ship for coming here..and possibly eventually, helping the parents to get here too some day.

    There's fscking websites and 'hotels' catering to just this shit...to get expectant mothers here just to give birth.

    Seriously, WTF can't we change laws to require that at least ONE of the parents be a US citizen, before the offspring is automatically a US citizen and stop this stupid shit.

    No other country in the world puts up with this shit...why do we????

    Pass some laws addressing this in the "Comprehensive Immigration" acts they're working on...and I'll start to look more seriously into looking into supporting it.

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  2. Re:We have the same... by marnues · · Score: 0, Troll

    "Their women" are not likely to be more interested if you actually went outside their power structures. They're only "their women" because you call them that. Doesn't change the fact that foreign women are not so interested in having sex with you.

  3. Re:We have the same... by BlueStrat · · Score: 0, Troll

    Socialism provides all with equal misery, paid for by anyone foolish enough to still be producing rather than "pretending to work so they pretend to pay", something that Socialists say that Socialism does not do, but obviously does.

    FTFY

    Socialism is great, until you run out of other people's money. Once Socialism has drained the "bourgeois/rich" and any others still productive, the shared misery begins in earnest. Socialism ensures that, rather than lifting all boats, it sinks any boats rising faster/higher (being more successful) than others. Equal misery for all...except the Socialist political elite, that is.

    Strat

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