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FTC Gets 744 New Ideas On How To Hang Up On Robocallers

coondoggie writes "The Federal Trade Commission today said the submission period for its Robocall Challenge had ended and it got 744 new ideas for ways to shut down the annoying automated callers. The FTC noted that the vast majority of telephone calls that deliver a prerecorded message trying to sell something to the recipient are illegal. The FTC regulates these calls under the Telemarketing Sales Rule and the Challenge was issued to developing technical or functional solutions and proofs of concepts that can block illegal robocalls which, despite the agency's best efforts, seem to be increasing."

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  1. Actually USE all your wiretapping crap by YodasEvilTwin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or maybe just actually investigate consumer complaints.

  2. Re:Google Voice call screening by penix1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The problem is the law. There are so many loopholes in it you could drive a Mac truck through them. For example, the whole "if we did business with you before we can contact you again" part. There is no definition of "doing business" and it can include things like they sent you snail-mail spam. It also exempts the most annoying which are the political robocalls. In short, the law itself is contributing to the problem.

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  3. Re:Google Voice call screening by NevarMore · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are so many loopholes in it you could drive a Mac truck through them.

    Is Apple making wheeled vehicles now?

  4. Leave a fax machine plugged in during the day. by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This works well for land lines. The calls stop. On my cell, it hasn't been much of a problem.

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    1. Re:Leave a fax machine plugged in during the day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When I was in law school, I worked at the legal clinic. They had a fax machine that got all sorts of spam. So, I followed all the proper techniques for opting out. Didn't stop the spam. So, I sued all of the companies for statutory damages. Winning a couple of those stopped the spam real quick.

      I still remember a phone conversation I had with one of the lawyers. He was talking about how I shouldn't waste everyone's time and money by suing his client. And I said they shouldn't waste everyone's time and money by spamming them and using up their resources. The funny thing is, the FRCP 11 and 37 sanctions imposed by the court caused by the out of state firm playing fast and lose ended up being more than the damage award. They really shouldn't have messed with the largest law firm in the state, especially when everyone works for the fun of it.

  5. Block calls with spoofed ID ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Somewhere along the line, it must be technically possible to identify that the number isn't coming from where it claims to be.

    Most of the obvious fraudulent crap is all using fake caller IDs and they're calling another country.

    If I could simply tell the phone company that I'm not willing to accept numbers which don't match their origin, that would kill off all of the crap I get. And I don't care about the legitimate ones, because by masking their real phone number they're no better than the scammers.

    Unfortunately, these guys lobby hard enough that they make sure nobody could pass anything which cut into their business -- because they feel it's their legitimate right to call us.

    It's gotten to the point where even the ones with legal exemptions like charities and political parties usually get an earful of profanity.

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  6. Re:Google Voice call screening by blueg3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The problem is the law. There are so many loopholes in it...

    Actually, if you look in the summary, that's exactly not what the FTC found. All of the loopholes are legal ways for companies to call you that are still not desired by the recipient. But the majority of robocalls, it says, are illegal. Meaning they're not driving through loopholes, they're just ignoring the law.

  7. Easy solution by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Follow the money trail. Once you know what company is getting the money, find out who owns the company.

    Once you find out who owns the company, you shoot them.

    Problem solved.

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  8. Asterisk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I solve this problem by having asterisk prescreen all incoming calls. An IVR prompt requires you to press a combination of numbers before it actually rings any phones. A white and black list for caller ID data are used to bypass or simply play line disconnected tones and hang up.

    It's the only reason I still have a POTS line. I never give out my cell.

  9. Re:Who's dropping the ball? by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The feds and ISP's are too busy busting kids for downloading movies in their dorm rooms.

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  10. Re:Google Voice call screening by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wouldn’t worry about the Apple Mac Truck being a death trap; after all they are all very well engineered devices.

    It's the other things that worry me; such as add-ons like the "Standard fuel pump to iGas adapter", "sloped driveway parking adapter", and the fact that I could only get gas, wiper blades, air freshener and other iTruck items from the approved iTruckStore. But then again ... they really do make the best adapters; and the door is on the bottom!! *mind blown*

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  11. Re:Google Voice call screening by nadaou · · Score: 4, Funny

    what we need now is an overzealous federal prosecutor looking to make an name for themselves and perhaps perform some act of societal penance.

    won't anybody help?

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  12. Re:Google Voice call screening by gauauu · · Score: 4, Informative

    Better yet, agree to the sale.
    Then once they get you one the phone with the person who takes your credit card info, hang up. This will result in a cost to the call center and the agent who called you will get reprimanded for the failed conversion.

    I tried this. Unfortunately, the fact that I actually wanted to talk to somebody got me bumped to some sort of "possible target" list, where I get called probably 5 times as frequently now. Before starting your strategy, I got called maybe once every few weeks. It bumped up to once or twice a day after I actually talked to somebody. *sigh*

  13. Re:Google Voice call screening by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Excellent. That means they are too busy to call me.

    Everybody else do it too. You won't regret it.

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  14. Re:Google Voice call screening by Githaron · · Score: 4, Funny

    They would just claim it is a square with rounded corners.