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CES Ditches CNET After CBS Scandal Over Dish's Hopper
An anonymous reader writes in about the latest fallout from CNET's parent company, CBS banning Dish Network's hopper from reviews and award lists. "The Consumer Electronics Association has not only today bestowed its Best in Show title upon the same Dish Network product that started this whole mess in the first place — in the same release, the group says it will no longer work with CNET. CES has enjoyed a long and productive partnership with CNET and the Best of CES awards,' said Karen Chupka, the CEA's senior vice president for events and conferences. "However, we are concerned the new review policy will have a negative impact on our brand should we continue the awards relationship as currently constructed. We look forward to receiving new ideas to recognize the 'best of the best' products introduced at the International CES.""
Someone add this to the list of examples on Wikipedia's "Streisand Effect" entry.
The company had zero integrity before the Dish scandal happened. Why would anyone work with them in the first place? Weren't their scammy download site and payola-based game review sites damning enough already?
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
Nice to see...
Wow, this is shocking. And I'm still reeling from the news about the Tour de France, I haven't decided what to do with my chest full of Lance Armstrong memorabilia.
How do you like them apples, CBS?
I had a sucky sig.
Business relationships color the news for all outlets; even NPR and PBS now have "sponsors." About 10 years ago I was watching I think CNBC when RFK Jr. started talking about poor environmental practices of GE, the parent company. The hosts actually shushed him and they immediately cut to commercial. When they came back, RFK Jr. was gone...
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
What is a dish's hopper?
I know this is way off topic and I will try and bring it back on in the end... No promises though...lol
It always amuses me the kerfuffle raised when sports athletes get caught using performance enhancing drugs yet people don't say shit about beauty pageant contestants who have had cosmetic surgery just to win those titles.
It all comes down to "follow the money". It is the same with this C/Net / CBS / Dish story. Follow the money. To CBS Dish is cutting off a revenue stream it sees as essential. Dish is seen by them as cheating the system just as much as Lance did. Dish OTOH doesn't see ads as essential since their service is subscription based. So much like Lance, they don't think they did anything wrong.
How's that for trying to bring it back?
This is a sig. This is only a sig. Had this been an actual sig you would have been informed where to tune for more sigs.
In other news, the Confederation of Companies that Rely on Acronyms starting with the letter C (C-CRAC) has revoked the CES's membership for siding with a "D" company that doesn't even understand the value of an acronym over its fellow "C" members. C-SPAN will be carrying live coverage of CNET's appeal.
Do what Lance Armstrong did with his chest full of "Lance Armstrong memorabilia": Go out and win the Tour de France.
Americans don't want to pay for quality news. Cheap, mediocre news is good enough, and corporate sponsorships pay for those expensive reporters. So what if a particular news site supports their parent company in corporate legal infighting? There are other news sites out there. Use one of them instead.
in other news......
Forty tech journalists are looking for work.
I read the title 5 times and still have no fucking idea what it's about.
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
Not sure how long ago it happened, but I became aware of CBS's complete lack of journalistic standards when Dan Rather tried to scuttle the Bush campaign with forged documents.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
It's gibberish. Can't /. afford real editors, for crying out loud?
I need sleep because it looked like "The CIA surrounded CES since seeing CNET on CBS and served seven scientific sequestrations so somebody sensing a sacking stalls statistical scribes."
Good
...spends ages writing a reply, making lots of assumptions based on a sig... clicks submit... goes to read "slashdot.org/~hduff" page, facepalm!
No reference whatsoever to the line of work referred toby me (and the sig), no topics or posts related to it, just a good quote in the sig, from the Police Federation's (UK) magazine for members of the Fed. Yep, a it's a union for frontline (below Inspecter rank) Police officers.
Boy, did I get the wrong end of the, er, baton... (winds neck back in, reminds herself why she was taught "Never assume - ASS U ME makes an ASS of U and ME", straightens hat, whistles, "Move along, nothing to see here folks...")
ps I'll probably get modded Offtopic for the other post, and Insightful for this one - for self-revelation and the ASSUME thing - it's a useful one, that. Remember it - I should have! ;-)
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Everyone's a sinner.
It works the same in every area of life. You get what you incentivize not what you profess to believe or support.
It is why people cheat in college classes. Many are memory based classes and are designed to encourage cheating regardless of what the professors claim to support.
Anywhere in society you see behavior other than what you want or think the system should have it is because you are giving an incentive for that behavior and no amount of rule changing is going to fix that.
That is why we have can harsh anti-drug laws, anti-cheating codes of conduct, laws about what companies can do etc but as long as the reward is greater than any penalty and the odds of being caught are low people will do what makes the most sense.
Some people do learn though. I see less cheating in engineering classes where the exams are open book, notes, calculator, previous exams etc because it does not do any good. The exams are purely about understanding.
For memorization based classes I see people using Adderall and other drugs to do well in the class and damned be any future consequences. Universities can even say it is bad that people use drugs to pass those classes but nothing they say will really stop it. Mostly the problem is that in the short term the drugs work, you do better in class and people don't care about long term damage.
Most chemistry departments might as well be sponsored by Adderall given how much memorization I see in them. The sad things is so many people studying to become doctors while they damage their brains to do well in tests in the short term.
Computer modeling for biotech drug manufacturing is HARD!
The Bush defense is old and played out. The OP never said anything about defending Bush. Just that CBS flat out lied to discredit him on a specific issue.
-- Slashdot, making the Left look conservative since 1997.
And that's one way we can tell you're a right-winger. The bad journalism angle was just a smokescreen to hide the many legitimate claims made against Bush. Rove really was at the top of his game under Bush, considering how many awful things he managed to get almost completely ignored by the public at large.
> you still want to defend George W.
When did I say anything of the kind?
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
>you're a right-winger.
Not everyone fits into one of the two boxes in your tiny little mind, sunshine.
Like any other Libertarian, I'm no fan of GWB, and as it happens my distaste for the current teleprompter-in-chief is due to his failure to reverse any of Bush's power grabs.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
I totally respected you until the "teleprompter" reference. The teleprompter screaming is totally asinine.
Bush couldn't even use a teleprompter. He READ his speeches out of a 3 ring binder. Go look one up!
There is tons criticize Obama for that aren't imagined or silly. You can do better.
In retrospect, a noble cause.
Da Hoppah!
...is nothing but a rag these days. Spouting pro-Apple gibberish all over the place and discounting other, more promising tech. Doesn't surprise me their lack of independence went so far as to fully censoring a product that 'the company' didn't like. It's ridiculous and no one should take this from a 'news' source. There's better sites out there anyways. Cnet writing is garbage.
The truth is always the noblest cause.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
I think the space of a post on Slashdot is a little too small to rattle off the shortcomings of Obama.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
Well fuck you too, buddy!
(Seriously though, what did you mean?)
"While Dan Rather attempts to rationalize the network's heartless decision to air this despicable 'terrorist propaganda video,' it is beyond our comprehension that any mother, wife, father or sister should have to relive this horrific tragedy and watch their loved one being repeatedly terrorized," the family said.
"Terrorists have made this video confident that the American media would broadcast it and thereby serve their exact purpose. By showing this video, CBS or any other broadcaster willing to show it proves that they fall without shame into the terrorists' plan."
-- Mariane Pearl, May 15, 2002
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
The Dish Hopper is somewhat of a joke, It is a way to convert satellite broadcast into streaming - you see, it isn't a DVR at all but a device that requests something be saved for you at Dish Network HQ. Then, later you can have it streamed to you over the Internet. They claim the device is limited to 2000 hours, but this would appear to be an entirely arbitrary number. Since your "saved" content is likely shared with everyone else, why would there be any limit at all?
Do you really think that they are saving a unique copy of Two Broke Girls rather than simply having one that everyone shares?
Unfortunately, it is going to suffer the same fate as all streaming - congestion. We are starting to see streaming degrading because of Internet congestion now and it is only going to get worse as time goes on. Having a faster link from the "head end" to the home isn't going to fix it as long as we have a node configuration where a node feeds a neighborhood - both FIOS and every cable and DSL system utilizes this sort of configuration.
Cox in Phoenix is trying to be forward looking and reducing the number of homes per node from 1000 to 500 and that may help somewhat. But with higher and higher bandwidth expectations (see Netflix recent announcement), once we move into a point where streaming is being done by a large number of households it would have to be more like 100 homes per node - and that isn't going to happen without major restructuring. Major, as in when we moved cable from RF to digital distribution.
Most other cable networks are at 1000 homes per node and maybe 1Gb feed to each node. That means if homes are hoping for 10Mb/sec streaming only a 1 in 10 is going to get it. When we get past 1 in 10 streaming, that is about the end for streaming as a distribution technique.
So how long could the Hopper possibly last? Maybe three years. Maybe. Converting from satellite broadcast to streaming is a silly thing for Dish to be doing as there is no impending collapse of satellite distribution. Sort of like Netflix dropping,or thinking about and quickly forgetting about dropping DVD distribution.
I have three Roku boxes and an Apple TV box. I expect them all to be paperweights in 1-2 years.
Rather was duped into believing that he'd found genuine documents and was then duped into using them in an attempt to reveal the questionable history of GWB.
We need only to remember that GWB was, according to some accounts, something of a screw-up during his younger years and then recall that his father GHWB was a congressman, an ambassador, VP of the US, Director of the CIA, and President of the US during those years.
Question: do you think it possible or likely that a loving father with that kind of power and connections could have attempted to protect his wayward son? That he could have had various real documents go missing, or "red herring" documents put in their place?
When considering the reaction to Rather's embarrassment, do you recall the immediate outpouring of support for GWB from those who'd served with him in the Air Guard? The dozens of fellow pilots and support personnel who came forward to testify that they'd seen him everytime, on time, at every meeting? Me neither.
Your side lost. get over it.
Freedom of speech is also the freedom not listen to content not in your interest.
I'm wondering what the big networks will do about other commercial skipping services like commercialbreak.com ?
The sad things is so many people studying to become doctors while they damage their brains to do well in tests in the short term.
Got evidence to back up that claim?
Walter Cronkite did that sixty years ago.
Bush couldn't even use a teleprompter.
It saddens me that you don't even realize how pathetic it is to make excuses for Obama by comparing him to Bush.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."