Yeah, but what if I hack an American bank, steal some money and the send it to you. Are you criminally liable?
If you just send me a thousand bucks and I don't know it was obtained illegally, then no. If you're caught however, I may be required to give the money back.
If, on the other hand, I know the money was obtained illegally, then yes, I've broken the law.
If I burn a Koran in the public square in my midwestern US town, am I subject to being extradited to Iran to face punishment?
No, Anonymous Coward, you aren't.
For extradition to occur two criteria have to be met -
1) The alleged offense has to be considered a crime in both countries. This is typically determined by a judge at the extradition hearing.
2) There has to be an extradition treaty between the two countries.
Neither criteria are met in your example, both criteria are met in the Assange situation.
(In some circumstances there also has to be assurances that the death penalty will not be sought. For example, Canada will not extradite individuals charged with murder to the USA unless the USA guarantees the alleged perpetrator will not be executed if found guilty.)
1) Assange is not a US citizen, and is not subject to US laws.
I'm Canadian and not a US citizen.
If I hack into your American bank account from Canada and steal all your money I've still committed a crime and I'm still subject to US laws.
If American law enforcement figures out who I am, they can extradite me and have me stand trial in the USA.
What important is the principle of free speech. And for that principle it absolutely does not matter what suppresses it, government or viseohosting de facto monopoly. At late stage capitalism monopolies are indistinguishable from governments.
Nonsense. YouTube doesn't have a police force or an army. YouTube doesn't have a court system and prisons. The FA exists so the government can't arrest you for saying "The President is a moron," like they can in many, many other nations.
...and as for a "monopoly" this hearing could have been streamed on Vimeo or C-SPAN or Facebook or Twitter or a dozen different sites. Hardly a monopoly.
Hey Anonymous Coward - Don't quote the constitution if you don't understand it.
The constitution says THE GOVERNMENT can't censor your speech. Last time I checked, there was no mention in the constitution of private corporations like YouTube.
and rural - the Dakotas, almost all of Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Alaska, etc.
While installing an 4G terrestrial network ain't cheap, it's still orders-of-magnitude cheaper than operating a satellite network. In the flat parts of those states you only need a tower every 20 miles. 4G will give you 50 mbps - We have 25 mbps at our house over copper and we can still stream on three iPads easily.
Certainly areas like Alaska will benefit from satellite Anonymous Coward, but I remain highly skeptical that it will ever compete against earth-based systems.
The companies that are setting up satellites will gain a permanent global market dominance instantly.
Unlikely, due to pesky physics.
Never say never, I suppose, but in towns and cities there's no way a space-based solution will ever be able to compete with the cost-of-delivery of a high-bandwidth and low-latency terrestrial fiber-based network.
Rural is a different story - Grandpa's farm in Kansas might benefit - But even there a 5G wireless terrestrial solution will always win from a cost-of-operation perspective. You don't need to launch a rocket to put up a tower a few miles from Grandpa.
If I'm on a plane over the ocean and the transponder starts arcing and smoking I sure as hell want the cockpit to have the "option" to pull a breaker and kill electric power to it.
The flight crew should have control over every system on an aircraft I'm on, full stop.
It's no different from the fact that the cockpit can switch off all the engines if they deem it necessary.
It's also worth pointing out that Pan Am 103 was destroyed by a bomb in a radio that was otherwise fully functional
Not true - The radio in the Toshiba RF-SF16 would've still worked, true. But the cassette deck no longer did as those guts were replaced with the bomb. So no, not "otherwise fully functional."
The point of the parent in this thread was that with the subscription-based streaming services / the library you don't get everything the way did when you browsed the shelves at a video rental shop.
(Leaving aside the fact that if you arrived at Blockbuster at 8pm on a Friday everything good was gone.)
My point was if you want "the Blockbuster experience" in 2019 - The ability to rent reasonably new stuff - You can do that from Apple, Google or your cable provider, for less money than we paid at Blockbuster 20 years ago.
Keep in mind when Blockbuster was around they didn't have brand-new releases to rent either.
The timeline was usually Theatrical Release => Pay-per-View => Blockbuster => HBO (with the last two often reversed).
So even though Austin Powers came out in the Spring it wasn't at Blockbuster until the Fall / Early Winter.
The prices Google shows are way too high, You're lucky to find something for $4.
I find these sorts of comments pretty funny.
This post is about Blockbuster.
Back in the 80s and 90s a VHS tape rental at Blockbuster was around $10-$12 (inflation-adjusted to 2019 dollars) and was due back "the next day before 6pm". Today, you can rent a movie on Google from your couch for 48 hours for $4, with no need to rewind or return it to the Blockbuster - But the prices Google shows are "way too high."
I miss being able to get a pizza and a movie to watch over dinner.
We haven't "cut the cable" (I'm 52) so in our household we just press the "On Demand" button on our remote and rent the movie from the Cable TV Company.
If you don't have cable, you can also rent most any movie from Google Play Movies & TV or iTunes (either via streaming or a download that expires at the end of the rental period).
The saturn v was fairly safe? There were 12 manned apollo missions. We lost apollo1 to a fire on the pad, and we very nearly lost apollo 12 on launch, and we very nearly lost apollo 13 in translunar orbit.
I'm gonna call you out on these, Anonymous Coward.
The Apollo 1 fire was a design issue with the command module.
Apollo 12 generated two lightning strikes during a rainstorm. The fact that the Saturn V continued to fly safely after that is testament to its design.
Apollo 13's issue was with the Service Module, not the Saturn V. The Saturn V was long gone by then.
Compare that to the record of the space shuttle.
Apollo: Three deaths (on the ground, during a test).
Shuttle: Fourteen deaths (seven on launch, seven on re-entry)
It's hilarious how those on the "right" are constantly going on about "snowflakes" and "safe spaces" when their representatives like Trump and his minions like Nunes are the biggest collection of whiny, thin-skinned tantrumming snowflakes around.
Congrats? Most of those offices were there well before Orange. Man. BAD!
It's true they were here prior to Trump Anonymous Coward - But MUCH smaller. Microsoft, Amazon and Salesforce in particular have exploded in Vancouver hiring in the last 2 years.
...but you can basically track it back to the the Republicans taking congress, being obstructionist and refusing to pass any immigration reform. Trump just added massive amounts of fuel to that fire.
PS And oh BTW, you Anonymous Cowards know you look like utter and complete morons every time you write "Orange Man Bad," right? Just wanted to confirm.
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Yeah, but what if I hack an American bank, steal some money and the send it to you. Are you criminally liable?
If you just send me a thousand bucks and I don't know it was obtained illegally, then no. If you're caught however, I may be required to give the money back.
If, on the other hand, I know the money was obtained illegally, then yes, I've broken the law.
So, also a crime in the UK and therefore extraditable.
So it's a crime in the UK to publish US documents? When you aren't even a citizen.
He hasn't been charged with "publishing documents," Anonymous Coward.
He's been charged with criminal conspiracy and criminal hacking, both of which are a crime in the UK.
In the UK he has been charged with breaching bail.
Hey Anonymous Cupcake, what is the exact criminal charge Assange is facing?
If I burn a Koran in the public square in my midwestern US town, am I subject to being extradited to Iran to face punishment?
No, Anonymous Coward, you aren't.
For extradition to occur two criteria have to be met -
1) The alleged offense has to be considered a crime in both countries. This is typically determined by a judge at the extradition hearing.
2) There has to be an extradition treaty between the two countries.
Neither criteria are met in your example, both criteria are met in the Assange situation.
(In some circumstances there also has to be assurances that the death penalty will not be sought. For example, Canada will not extradite individuals charged with murder to the USA unless the USA guarantees the alleged perpetrator will not be executed if found guilty.)
1) Assange is not a US citizen, and is not subject to US laws.
I'm Canadian and not a US citizen. If I hack into your American bank account from Canada and steal all your money I've still committed a crime and I'm still subject to US laws.
If American law enforcement figures out who I am, they can extradite me and have me stand trial in the USA.
You isp is a private company and have right to block access to any site they wish.
Of course. And I have the right to move to another ISP if they do.
What important is the principle of free speech. And for that principle it absolutely does not matter what suppresses it, government or viseohosting de facto monopoly. At late stage capitalism monopolies are indistinguishable from governments.
Nonsense. YouTube doesn't have a police force or an army. YouTube doesn't have a court system and prisons. The FA exists so the government can't arrest you for saying "The President is a moron," like they can in many, many other nations.
...and as for a "monopoly" this hearing could have been streamed on Vimeo or C-SPAN or Facebook or Twitter or a dozen different sites. Hardly a monopoly.
Hey Anonymous Coward - Don't quote the constitution if you don't understand it.
The constitution says THE GOVERNMENT can't censor your speech. Last time I checked, there was no mention in the constitution of private corporations like YouTube.
I agree, but if I want to rent a movie I just rent it from Google Play. I still don't go get physical media.
(I still purchase physical media, though.)
and rural - the Dakotas, almost all of Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Alaska, etc.
While installing an 4G terrestrial network ain't cheap, it's still orders-of-magnitude cheaper than operating a satellite network. In the flat parts of those states you only need a tower every 20 miles. 4G will give you 50 mbps - We have 25 mbps at our house over copper and we can still stream on three iPads easily.
Certainly areas like Alaska will benefit from satellite Anonymous Coward, but I remain highly skeptical that it will ever compete against earth-based systems.
The companies that are setting up satellites will gain a permanent global market dominance instantly.
Unlikely, due to pesky physics.
Never say never, I suppose, but in towns and cities there's no way a space-based solution will ever be able to compete with the cost-of-delivery of a high-bandwidth and low-latency terrestrial fiber-based network.
Rural is a different story - Grandpa's farm in Kansas might benefit - But even there a 5G wireless terrestrial solution will always win from a cost-of-operation perspective. You don't need to launch a rocket to put up a tower a few miles from Grandpa.
Leave a smart tv connected to internet? So the manufacturer can send an update that borks the tv?
I have two "Smart" TVs in my house plugged into the Internet, Anonymous Coward - A Samsung and a Sony.
Neither of them automatically updates without asking me first, and if I want I can turn the update service off altogether.
Everyone likes options.
If I'm on a plane over the ocean and the transponder starts arcing and smoking I sure as hell want the cockpit to have the "option" to pull a breaker and kill electric power to it.
The flight crew should have control over every system on an aircraft I'm on, full stop.
It's no different from the fact that the cockpit can switch off all the engines if they deem it necessary.
Just what do climate change opponents have against trees?
Pretty tricky to grow lush, green trees across vast swaths of land that have turned to desert.
It's also worth pointing out that Pan Am 103 was destroyed by a bomb in a radio that was otherwise fully functional
Not true - The radio in the Toshiba RF-SF16 would've still worked, true. But the cassette deck no longer did as those guts were replaced with the bomb. So no, not "otherwise fully functional."
The point of the parent in this thread was that with the subscription-based streaming services / the library you don't get everything the way did when you browsed the shelves at a video rental shop.
(Leaving aside the fact that if you arrived at Blockbuster at 8pm on a Friday everything good was gone.)
My point was if you want "the Blockbuster experience" in 2019 - The ability to rent reasonably new stuff - You can do that from Apple, Google or your cable provider, for less money than we paid at Blockbuster 20 years ago.
Keep in mind when Blockbuster was around they didn't have brand-new releases to rent either.
The timeline was usually Theatrical Release => Pay-per-View => Blockbuster => HBO (with the last two often reversed).
So even though Austin Powers came out in the Spring it wasn't at Blockbuster until the Fall / Early Winter.
The prices Google shows are way too high, You're lucky to find something for $4.
I find these sorts of comments pretty funny.
This post is about Blockbuster.
Back in the 80s and 90s a VHS tape rental at Blockbuster was around $10-$12 (inflation-adjusted to 2019 dollars) and was due back "the next day before 6pm". Today, you can rent a movie on Google from your couch for 48 hours for $4, with no need to rewind or return it to the Blockbuster - But the prices Google shows are "way too high."
Look at Uncle Kajiggerbucks here, paying a gazillion denaro to watch a fuckin' movie.
From the OP -
I remember getting a membership way back in late 90s and new releases were $8 per night.
Eight bucks in 1999 is twelve bucks today, Anonymous Coward.
Cost to rent Incredibles 2 on Google? Four bucks.
I miss being able to get a pizza and a movie to watch over dinner.
We haven't "cut the cable" (I'm 52) so in our household we just press the "On Demand" button on our remote and rent the movie from the Cable TV Company.
If you don't have cable, you can also rent most any movie from Google Play Movies & TV or iTunes (either via streaming or a download that expires at the end of the rental period).
H1BÃ(TM)s,
Hey Anonymous Coward - The "Preview" button is there for a reason. Use it.
Also EA just fired a bunch. In all cases they're firing engineers. The sort of people you need to keep the company going.
No, the sort of people you can get in Vietnam or India for half the price.
The saturn v was fairly safe? There were 12 manned apollo missions. We lost apollo1 to a fire on the pad, and we very nearly lost apollo 12 on launch, and we very nearly lost apollo 13 in translunar orbit.
I'm gonna call you out on these, Anonymous Coward.
The Apollo 1 fire was a design issue with the command module.
Apollo 12 generated two lightning strikes during a rainstorm. The fact that the Saturn V continued to fly safely after that is testament to its design.
Apollo 13's issue was with the Service Module, not the Saturn V. The Saturn V was long gone by then.
Compare that to the record of the space shuttle.
Apollo: Three deaths (on the ground, during a test).
Shuttle: Fourteen deaths (seven on launch, seven on re-entry)
It's hilarious how those on the "right" are constantly going on about "snowflakes" and "safe spaces" when their representatives like Trump and his minions like Nunes are the biggest collection of whiny, thin-skinned tantrumming snowflakes around.
Congrats? Most of those offices were there well before Orange. Man. BAD!
It's true they were here prior to Trump Anonymous Coward - But MUCH smaller. Microsoft, Amazon and Salesforce in particular have exploded in Vancouver hiring in the last 2 years.
...but you can basically track it back to the the Republicans taking congress, being obstructionist and refusing to pass any immigration reform. Trump just added massive amounts of fuel to that fire.
PS And oh BTW, you Anonymous Cowards know you look like utter and complete morons every time you write "Orange Man Bad," right? Just wanted to confirm.