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Online Ads Are More Dangerous Than Porn, Cisco Says

wiredmikey writes "The popular belief is that security risks increase as the user engages in riskier and shadier behavior online, but that apparently isn't the case, Cisco found in its 2013 Annual Security report. It can be more dangerous to click on an online advertisement than an adult content site these days, according to Cisco. For example, users clicking on online ads were 182 times more likely to wind up getting infected with malware than if they'd surfed over to an adult content site, Cisco said. The highest concentration of online security targets do not target pornography, pharmaceutical, or gambling sites as much as they affect legitimate sites such as search engines, online retailers, and social media. Users are 21 times more likely to get hit with malware from online shopping sites and 27 more times likely with a search engine than if they'd gone to a counterfeit software site, according to Cisco's report (PDF). There is an overwhelming perception that people get compromised for 'going to dumb sites,' Mary Landesman, senior security researcher at Cisco, told SecurityWeek."

110 comments

  1. TFA got the probabilities backward by phaunt · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary, and the Security Week article, write that "Users are more 21 times more likely to get hit with malware from online shopping sites than if they'd gone to a counterfeit software site".

    Cisco's report says that "Online shopping sites are 21 times more likely to deliver malicious content than counterfeit software sites."

    Those statements are not equivalent. Online shopping sites have many more visitors than counterfeit software sites, so they have more opportunity to deliver malware. The same goes for the factor of 27 for search engines.

    Also, it's hard to check the factor of 182 for adult sites, since the report doesn't include that number, or in fact even the words "porn" or "adult".

    1. Re:TFA got the probabilities backward by phaunt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...and Slashdot's title for the story that "Online Ads Are More Dangerous Than Porn" takes it still a level further. It's certainly not what Cisco said.

    2. Re:TFA got the probabilities backward by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 2

      Sure, but it's what we probably wanted to hear.

      Now go tell it to the politicians and mention the children. Maybe the privacy-invading criminals finally get punished. I won't be holding my breath though.

      Appropriate quote from Sir Winston Churchill:

      'Statistics are like a drunk with a lamppost, used more for support than illumination.'

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    3. Re:TFA got the probabilities backward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    4. Re:TFA got the probabilities backward by wvmarle · · Score: 1

      Where Cisco's wording is really ambiguous. Deliver may mean indeed as you interpret it, the total number of successful infections, it may also mean the chance that if you visit that site, it gets you infected, which indeed would be my interpretation of the wording Cisco uses.

      And now I'd have to go read the report and look at the actual numbers and methodology they used, to figure out the actual meaning.

    5. Re:TFA got the probabilities backward by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2

      Slashdot "editor" utilises hyperbole in post title in click whore shocker!

      More at 11, and tomorrow, and the day after, and the day after that...

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    6. Re:TFA got the probabilities backward by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Those statements are not equivalent

      They're completely equivalent. The "than if they'd gone to a counterfeit software site" part takes care of that.

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    7. Re:TFA got the probabilities backward by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2
      What is your dog in this fight?

      I'll assume that you hit the wrong link, and read something else, so here is from the article:

      It can be more dangerous to click on an online advertisement than an adult content site these days, Cisco said in its latest version of the yearly security threat report.

      An adult content website - that's probably porn.

      The highest concentration of online security targets do not target pornography, pharmaceutical, or gambling sites as much as they affect legitimate sites such as search engines.....

      Are you going to wordsmith this one> Yeah, it doesn't say "porn". It says "pornography. The section you quoted, below the sentence with pornography in the text, does speak of the counterfeit software site.

      But you know why they used the "counterfeit site metric don't you? Because of the uproar that would ensue if they used actual data from porn surfing. And probably the glut of resumes too.

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  2. Dumb sites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there is an overwhelming perception that people get compromised for 'going to dumb sites,

    Like this one? http://homestore.cisco.com/en-us.htm

  3. Risky != Risky??? by iYk6 · · Score: 0

    The popular belief is that security risks increase as the user engages in riskier ... behavior online

    So security risks don't increase as I engage in risky behavior? How does that even work? If something doesn't increase risk, then it isn't risky. I can start downloading and executing everything I see without increasing security risks?

    1. Re:Risky != Risky??? by GiantMolecularCloud · · Score: 2

      You would actually become safer.

    2. Re:Risky != Risky??? by phaunt · · Score: 4, Informative

      What Cisco's report actually said is that behaviour often perceived as "safe" (such as online shopping) carries more risk than generally thought.

    3. Re:Risky != Risky??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The popular belief is that security risks increase as the user engages in riskier ... behavior online

      So security risks don't increase as I engage in risky behavior? How does that even work? If something doesn't increase risk, then it isn't risky. I can start downloading and executing everything I see without increasing security risks?

      Oh come on now, let's not get anal about dissecting this. You know what the article was trying to get at...avoiding that "yeah, we know what you were surfing" look you get from your IT department every time you bring a personal computer to them that has an infection issue. Point is people do get infected from taking risks online, but clicking on "Add to Cart" shouldn't be equal to surfing the .ru domain for legit software.

    4. Re:Risky != Risky??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They meant risqué vs risky?

    5. Re:Risky != Risky??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're still applying the word risky. Why is an adult site considered risky? Because the common belief is that porn sites give you viruses. In my experience, they frequently do attach some small adware or tracker, but not at all like the fun places adds take you to. That being said, "risky behavior" can include going to a site with a lot of ads.

    6. Re:Risky != Risky??? by nickybio · · Score: 1, Funny

      You hit the nail on the head. We should do everything we can to avoid anal dissection.

  4. Why is this even news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It has been known for a long time that ads are a primary malware vector, this is the reason many sane people block them.

    1. Re:Why is this even news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is apparently news to all the people who keep clicking them otherwise these findings would not exist.

      Hopefully the information makes it to some of them this time.

    2. Re:Why is this even news? by RR · · Score: 2

      It has been known for a long time that ads are a primary malware vector, this is the reason many sane people block them.

      That is not the primary reason why I block ads. I block ads because I can't stand all the dancing, jiggling, flashing, gray overlays, slowdowns, green links, and noises, when I want to read something. If I incidentally block all the ads, well, I don't have the time to make my own ad block list that blocks only the bad ad providers. I tried it before, and I'm not convinced that there are any benign ad services.

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    3. Re:Why is this even news? by rusty0101 · · Score: 1

      I would think that the problem here is that the people who this information would potentially protect, are unlikely to be people who would read the report to begin with.

      The real beneficiaries of a report like this from Cisco is the firewall manager who needs to explain to the management team why the corporate firewall needs to be blocking online shopping sites, but he or she has been advised not to remind management that in most cases corporate productivity will probably go up if the employees are not shopping at Amazon or B&N when they should be working on whatever their day to day job is supposed to be.

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  5. PAID online porn is safe... by K2tech · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well thats what I heard...from a friend...he doesn't have that many accounts...

    1. Re:PAID online porn is safe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe that's because paid sites are less likely to have online ads.

  6. Thanks Google by Vladius · · Score: 2

    I've noticed similar shadyness with Google ads and just about all "sponsored content" you see on websites. You see the bullshit tags like "Doctors angered at woman's self treatment" or links to sites that seem to do nothing more than try to scare you to invest. The internet is full of bullshit. Somehow, for some reason Google is one of the richest companies in the world because of it. I'd like to know, who actually clicks on this shit.

    1. Re:Thanks Google by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Did you check out Google's information on government/police/court requests for info and takedowns in the UK? Around 4,000 incidents in total, and over 2,000 of them were regarding AdWords. Not Youtube, or Blogger, or G+ or Google Pages, but AdWords. Looks like they're well aware of the problems, to the point of government agencies taking regular action over it. Thing is, this is the thing that makes them an enormous amount of money...

      Full breakdowns by country here

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  7. Let's get rid of online ads then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Let's get rid of online ads then.

  8. So then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...are online porn ads the greatest threat?

  9. AdBlock Plus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Glad I block ads...

  10. Oh NOES! Not teh Google! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not allowed to criticize Google on Slashdot.

    Even though their entire business plan is to rape your privacy for every penny they can squeeze out of it.

  11. No surprise there, really. by wvmarle · · Score: 1

    It is long known that ads may contain malicious parts - especially bits of javascript. It happened before that major ad servers got compromised, it will happen again. I recall reports that some ads were trying to infect an unsuspecting user directly, and such ads are displayed on sites all over the place, including personal blogs and lolcat sites.

    When clicking an ad you don't really know which site you're going to be sent to. When visiting a porn or a warez site, you normally go there intentionally. Those sites are considered risky (especially the free ones - that use free porn/software to attract visitors - and somehow still have a desire to generate income), so many visitors will be more vigilant and may take extra precautions even.

    And ads will likely have a greater reach. I think it's safe to assume that many more people visit general sites with ads, than visit porn/warez sites. Greater chance to find a vulnerable system. More chance for someone to (accidentally) click the ad, and have them redirected to a malware site.

    The only somewhat surprising part is where online shopping sites are named as a major source of infection. Those sites have a reputation to keep up, or they will lose business. And as they are shopping sites, their income comes from direct sales, so there is no need to display third-party ads for revenue.

  12. Just trying to be safe.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't really want to visit the porn site, but that I had to, so that I wouldn't get my computer infected....

    1. Re:Just trying to be safe.. by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      Mod parent +1:???

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  13. Well it's about fucking time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Why should I have to be penalized more than someone else just because I like to see a little of the sexy time now and again?

    Hopefully these goody-two-shoes who never peruse the prurient will finally unpucker their assholes and live more like me. That is to say, the right way.

  14. Pay sites do take it seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most sites that are tring to get you to pay to use the site do seem take the security pretty seriously. They know that they have to deliver a better user experience then the "free" sites that have piles of full of stolen content. I've been awakened at 2AM more then once by an adult site webmaster who wants an infection cleaned up NOW and the site locked down so tight the crackers will never infect it again.

    A lot of the free sites are nothing but stolen content. You can recognize those because they don't link each pic or video to the source pay site. When you see they aren't linking to the site it came from, you know they are crooks. Crooks, by definition, are more likely to do something nasty to you.

    1. Re:Pay sites do take it seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can recognize those because they don't link each pic or video to the source pay site.

      So, no original content is ever produced? Or do sites now have to link back to themselves, for their content to be not stolen?

      Also, your statement presumes that all porn is produced for pay. If your statement had been about software instead of porn, you would have just declared Linux and FreeBSD illegal. Of course you could try some scarcity argument, that the number of people able to develop software is much larger than the number of people able to take off their clothes, and thus while free software can and does exist, free porn cannot.

    2. Re:Pay sites do take it seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of those non-samesitesource porns are old porns those sites are selling off either as advertising or just plain selling.

  15. watch... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    next week cisco unveils a new enterprise-caliber ad-scrubbing internet gateway...

  16. Or how about we just make secure browsers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, what year is this? If websites can still drop an executable onto a users machine with nothing more than a drive-by then clearly the problem is much more than just a question of ads of no ads. Why do operating systems and browsers still suck?

    1. Re:Or how about we just make secure browsers by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      Seriously, what year is this? If websites can still drop an executable onto a users machine with nothing more than a drive-by then clearly the problem is much more than just a question of ads of no ads. Why do operating systems and browsers still suck?

      Because Microsoft hasn't finished committing suicide yet. When IE finally approaches 0% then the suckage will start to lift.
      Oh before you bitch about Microsoft bashing, they just killed off Direct X. Ballmer is driving it into the ground faster than an exploding 787 battery.

  17. This is why I block ads by jbmartin6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This was always my response to the 'it is immoral to block ads' argument. I always said that if blah.com is hosting the ads itself I would be willing to allow them but as long as the content is from some unknown domain that I haven't chosen to trust, forget about it.

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    1. Re:This is why I block ads by deains · · Score: 1

      So do you block ads, or block content from unknown domains?

    2. Re:This is why I block ads by green1 · · Score: 2

      My ad blocking is accomplished by my DNS server, so it's not so much unknown domains as domains known to serve nothing but ads.

    3. Re:This is why I block ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So do you block ads, or block content from unknown domains?

      The latter, of course.

    4. Re:This is why I block ads by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      Not sure if this was your point or not, but I use Adblock. I am not that familiar with how it works, so it might be blocking some ads hosted by the same domain. In which case I would be an unwitting hypocrite. I'll probably check up on that at some point.

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    5. Re:This is why I block ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is immoral and ignorant to block all ads.

      Even newspaper ads register on some level, which is what heavily funds newspapers.

      When you outright block ads, you are blocking sometimes the absolute only revenue of that site.
      Are you honestly going to stand up and say you would pay to use the web, every single website? (more-or-less)
      Website operators don't exactly know what other sites you visit, so they can't really go "hey, you visit all these sites, so we will give you a discount since your budget for websites must already be stretched". Would they hell do that.
      You'd be paying anywhere around $4 per website. (probably as low as 50 cents, perhaps)
      Web rings would then have to come around again because no more advertising is allowed. (at least in the typical sense)
      Web rings were horrible. They might have seemed nifty and genius when we look back at it, but it was horrible.
      And even more worse if it was a linear ring, one website dies, say goodbye to the chain, you'll now be going through the opposite direction to get places, unless you bookmarked sites. (which casuals never do)
      If only somebody had an index of all websites... that'd help hugely...
      Back to the current system.

      Advertising is not evil. Evil advertisers are evil.
      The same goes for the whole Goto argument. Goto is not evil. The people who abuse it are. Goto has completely legit uses, and in many cases, a lot of languages have specialized Gotos that are used only within a parent feature, such as loops.
      Without Gotos, nobody would be using a computer right now. They are basically required for computers to operate at the very basic levels.

      I've only blocked those who use flash ads, pop-anythings (allowing window-creation by default is the worst thing those bastards ever created, I am glad all these new features are Ask by default, like they should have been!), focus stealing and annoying seizure gifs. Malware distributors don't even fall in to advertising in the typical sense. They are more malware distributors than they are advertisers. They fall under the typical "IP block the whole lot of them".
      And even with the flash ads, I unblocked those since I just enabled click2play for plugins, so there is no point having those entries slow my connections down ever so slightly when they are already blocked beforehand.
      I don't even block content I dislike, because it is up to the site operators to do advertising I would be interested in.

    6. Re:This is why I block ads by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      I block ads via noscript and request policy, not via adblock. So content from untrusted domains gets blocked, but not ads hosted by the site itself.

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  18. Well, here's what I did about it & why... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Which, if you read the list of what it can do for you as an end user of the resulting output it produces listed in the link above, you'll understand how/why...

    "It's as strong as steel, & a 3rd of the weight" - Howard Stark from the film "Captain America"

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    Especially vs. competing alternate 'solutions', noted below in AdBlock/Ghostery & yes even DNS servers, next, as 'examples thereof'...

    Solutions that used to be good & I even recommended them in security guides I wrote up over the decades now -> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000/XP%22&btnG=Submit&gbv=1&sei=ka3yUKzxB-6_0QHLroCQCA

    That did extremely well for myself (and users of them), for Windows users, for "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" purposes - the BEST THING WE HAVE GOING vs. threats of all kinds, currently!

    (Not anymore though, & certainly NOT far as AdBlock's concerned especially, not after this):

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    Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option:

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option

    (Meaning by default, which MOST USERS WON'T CHANGE, it doesn't block ALL ads - they "souled-out"... talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse")!

    ---

    Plus, Adblock CAN'T DO AS MUCH & not from a single file solution that runs in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode via tcpip.sys, a driver (since it's part of the IP stack & tightly integrated into it) which is far, Far, FAR FASTER than ring 3/rpl 3/usermode apps like browsers, & addons slow them down (known issue in FireFox).

    To wit, 10++ things AdBlock can't do, hosts can:

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    1.) Blocking rogue DNS servers malware makers use

    2.) Blocking known sites/servers that serve up malware... like known sites/servers/hosts-domains that serve up malicious scripts

    3.) Speeding up your FAVORITE SITES that hosts can speed up via hardcoded line item entries properly resolved by a reverse DNS ping

    4.) AdBlock works on Mozilla products (browser & email), hosts work on ANY webbound app AND are multiplatform.

    5.) AdBlock can't protect external to FireFox email programs, hosts can (think OUTLOOK, Eudora, & others)

    6.) AdBlock can't help you blow past DNSBL's (DNS block lists)

    7.) AdBlock can't help you avoid DNS request logs (hosts can via hardcoded favorites)

    8.) AdBlock can't protect you vs. TRACKERS (hosts can)

    9.) AdBlock can't protect you vs. DOWNED or "DNS-poisoned" redirected DNS servers (hosts can by hardcodes)

    10.) Hosts are EASIER to manage, they're just a text file (adblock means you had BEST know your javascript, perl, & python (iirc as to what languages are used to make it from source)).

    & more... as a tiny 'sampling' & proofs thereof!

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    Same with Ghostery:

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    Evidon, which makes Ghostery, is an advertising company.

    They were originally named Better Advertising, Inc., but changed their name for obvious PR reasons.

    Despite the name change, let's be clear on one thing: their goal still is building better advertising, not protecting consumer privacy.

    Evidon bought Ghostery, an independent

  19. I have been saying this for a long time by erroneus · · Score: 4, Informative

    I consider "Adblock" and similar browser and computer add-ons to be *security* tools as much as bandwidth and other management.

    Since the first time I noted browser exploits coming across common news and sales sites, I realized that the current model requires not trust of the sites we visit, but of the advertiser's sites... you know, like google and double-click and the others. I don't want to trust "unknowns" and so I block them unless I need them unblocked for access.

    1. Re:I have been saying this for a long time by Bieeanda · · Score: 2

      What's worse is that ad networks will trade space between themselves. Even if a site is conscientious about the ads they show and the networks they're affiliated with, malware-laden ads can still filter through because of that promiscuity.

    2. Re:I have been saying this for a long time by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I don't want to trust "unknowns" and so I block them unless I need them unblocked for access.

      If I have to unblock too many sites, I just don't use a site. Problem solved. Anything actually requiring doubleclick is evil and must be destroyed.

      Adblock and Noscript are necessities for security in a world in which the browser can't provide an adequate sandbox, which is the world we live in.

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  20. Beta testers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can I be a beta tester for the adult site testing?

  21. Adblock = inferior to custom hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Take a read -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    Here's how/why/when/where too specifically:

    Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option:

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option

    (Meaning by default, which MOST USERS WON'T CHANGE, it doesn't block ALL ads - they "souled-out"... talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse")!

    ---

    Plus, Adblock CAN'T DO AS MUCH & not from a single file solution that runs in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode via tcpip.sys, a driver (since it's part of the IP stack & tightly integrated into it) which is far, Far, FAR FASTER than ring 3/rpl 3/usermode apps like browsers, & addons slow them down (known issue in FireFox).

    To wit, 10++ things AdBlock can't do, hosts can:

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    1.) Blocking rogue DNS servers malware makers use

    2.) Blocking known sites/servers that serve up malware... like known sites/servers/hosts-domains that serve up malicious scripts

    3.) Speeding up your FAVORITE SITES that hosts can speed up via hardcoded line item entries properly resolved by a reverse DNS ping

    4.) AdBlock works on Mozilla products (browser & email), hosts work on ANY webbound app AND are multiplatform.

    5.) AdBlock can't protect external to FireFox email programs, hosts can (think OUTLOOK, Eudora, & others)

    6.) AdBlock can't help you blow past DNSBL's (DNS block lists)

    7.) AdBlock can't help you avoid DNS request logs (hosts can via hardcoded favorites)

    8.) AdBlock can't protect you vs. TRACKERS (hosts can)

    9.) AdBlock can't protect you vs. DOWNED or "DNS-poisoned" redirected DNS servers (hosts can by hardcodes)

    10.) Hosts are EASIER to manage, they're just a text file (adblock means you had BEST know your javascript, perl, & python (iirc as to what languages are used to make it from source)).

    & more... as a tiny 'sampling' & proofs thereof!

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    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> Custom hosts files are FAR superior to AdBlock (which should be called "almost all ads blocked" by default, now... what a shame - they 'souled out', along with Ghostery (owned by Evidon advertisers, talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse"))...

    ... apk

  22. Adblock = inferior to custom hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Take a read -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    Here's how/why/when/where too specifically:

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    Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option:

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option

    (Meaning by default, which MOST USERS WON'T CHANGE, it doesn't block ALL ads - they "souled-out"... talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse")!

    ---

    Plus, Adblock CAN'T DO AS MUCH & not from a single file solution that runs in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode via tcpip.sys, a driver (since it's part of the IP stack & tightly integrated into it) which is far, Far, FAR FASTER than ring 3/rpl 3/usermode apps like browsers, & addons slow them down (known issue in FireFox).

    To wit, 10++ things AdBlock can't do, hosts can:

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    1.) Blocking rogue DNS servers malware makers use

    2.) Blocking known sites/servers that serve up malware... like known sites/servers/hosts-domains that serve up malicious scripts

    3.) Speeding up your FAVORITE SITES that hosts can speed up via hardcoded line item entries properly resolved by a reverse DNS ping

    4.) AdBlock works on Mozilla products (browser & email), hosts work on ANY webbound app AND are multiplatform.

    5.) AdBlock can't protect external to FireFox email programs, hosts can (think OUTLOOK, Eudora, & others)

    6.) AdBlock can't help you blow past DNSBL's (DNS block lists)

    7.) AdBlock can't help you avoid DNS request logs (hosts can via hardcoded favorites)

    8.) AdBlock can't protect you vs. TRACKERS (hosts can)

    9.) AdBlock can't protect you vs. DOWNED or "DNS-poisoned" redirected DNS servers (hosts can by hardcodes)

    10.) Hosts are EASIER to manage, they're just a text file (adblock means you had BEST know your javascript, perl, & python (iirc as to what languages are used to make it from source)).

    & more... as a tiny 'sampling' & proofs thereof!

    ---

    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> Custom hosts files are FAR superior to AdBlock (which should be called "almost all ads blocked" by default, per the linked article above... what a shame - they 'souled out', along with Ghostery (owned by Evidon advertisers, talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse"))...

    ... apk

  23. Don't Click On Me. by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actual context sensitive Google ads that I was too terrified to click on:

    "Ball lightning: Browse a huge selection now. Find exactly what you want today."

    "Ann Coulter Ringtone! Send this ringtone to your phone right now!"

    Made me toss my browser cookies it did. After you toss your cookies these things stop for awhile, then build once again to a crescendo. Lately I have been getting ads with garden gnomes leering suggestively.

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    1. Re:Don't Click On Me. by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 1

      Some years back I wrote a small essay about another potential scenario... not the generic malware threat but one targeted to certain individuals. If you have a secret to keep that is worth killing to protect, you buy some specific Google ad-words that attract the attention of independent investigators out there who might be getting close to the mark. Lure them in by presenting a false front and inviting collaboration. Then go for the kill and make it look like an accident. Hocus Locus: Information Land Mines

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    2. Re:Don't Click On Me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd like to know what kind of meds you take

    3. Re:Don't Click On Me. by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      Never underestimate the attraction of a suggestively leering gnome to the truely gullible!

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  24. I got rid of ads & via a superior method by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    To AdBlock, Ghostery & other 'competing solutions' -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    Which AdBlock no longer blocks all ads by default & Ghostery is OWNED BY ADVERTISERS...

    Talk about being 'souled out' & having 'foxes guard your henhouse' with those 2!

    DNS is chock full of security vulnerabilities too!

    (One being that it is unpatched a 1/2 decade later vs. the Kaminsky redirect poisoning flaw -> http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/01/29/1859257/5-years-after-major-dns-flaw-found-few-us-companies-have-deployed-long-term-fix too, along with MANY others - if you want a list? "Ask & ye shall receive"...)

    AND

    Yes - That's the case, & worldwide in MOSTLY ALL OF THE DNS SERVES OUT THERE, no less, the majority of them!

    (Worst of all, @ the ISP level no less, as well as in businesses etc.)

    APK

    P.S.=> Which is WHY I designed that app - PLUS, it does a lot more for you than those competing solutions I noted above, AND?

    It actually supplements DNS by bypassing it safely to overcome that flaw & others!

    (By using reverse DNS hardcoded entries to the in arpa addr 'tld' that houses that information from the DNSSEC root 13 servers - which are secured vs. that flaw noted above in redirect poisonings & others)

    ... apk

    1. Re:I got rid of ads & via a superior method by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's stupid, only an idiot uses a program. I just edit my hosts file.

  25. Not for free, no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, no original content is ever produced? Or do sites now have to link back to themselves, for their content to be not stolen?

    Original content, professional style porrn, is produced by people who want to get their investment back, not by charities giving it away for free. Professional style content is not produced FOR FREE, 99.9999% of the time.

    Also, your statement presumes that all porn is produced for pay.

    Pre-sume is to decide before you have the relevant information. That's the PRE part of PREsume. I do happen to have the information, so it's not a presumption, it's an observation after a fifteen year career in online porn. The person making statements about how the porn industry works, but who has never been in the porn industry is the one doing the presuming.

    If your statement had been about software instead of porn, you would have just declared Linux and FreeBSD illegal.

    If your statement was about about pizza, you would have been talking about pepperoni. Yeah, if I had said something completely different, I would have been saying something different. I produce free software. I don't produce free porn. I have produced paid porn. (and paid software used by 35% of paid porn sites).

    (Double checking that I clicked "post anonymously".)

  26. Technically unjustified downmods = invalid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    They're the "best you've got" instead of disproving this -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269 and the points I listed there, with concrete, verifiable, & UNDENIABLE documentation from reputable sources too, no less!

    * :)

    (I know it, YOU KNOW IT, & you show it by doing a "hit & run" downmod with no valid critique & disproving of the points I posted - you only show others that, & they CAN read, you know, & will know it too IF they don't already!)

    Seriously - your unjustifiable downmods = weak!

    How?

    In *trying* in vain, to "hide" my post thus with hit & run downmods...)

    That won't work either - As most folks here browse FAR below the default level to see all posts, & rightfully so!

    (Especially since the "so-called 'moderation system'" here is busted, & hides AC posts like mine by default... "gosh, I wonder WHY?" (lol, NOT)).

    The link to my program lists all of what custom hosts files can do for an end-user of them in better speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent + a LOT more!

    (Like actually getting you MORE FOR YOUR MONEY's WORTH in what you pay out monthly to ISP's -> http://www.start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&Itemid=74 in that download link for it!)

    There is NO 'hiding' that or *trying* to, via unjustifiable downmods, is there? I also certainly do NOT see others disproving my points either... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-line: 1st of all, to whoever downmodded me & ran (not even disproving my points on custom hosts files' superiority over other flawed or crippled methods?)

    Thanks, actually!

    Secondly - Thanks for proving my point, AND MY PREDICTION of an "instant downmod" of my post regarding custom hosts files too, as I knew it would be and WHY -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    ---

    PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT:

    "Now - I truly KNOW this post will no doubt be downmodded, because Advertisers do NOT want this type of information getting out en-masse to enlighten users - they bought out Ghostery, crippled Adblock, but TRY THAT with a local hosts file (good luck!) especially one a user builds himself!" - http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    ---

    Since you show us "that's the 'best you've got'" & nothing more, lol...

    However - Anyone with 1/2 a brain realizes that bogus downmods aren't justifiable when my points are solid & correct + backed by citations & documentations from reputable sources and yes, facts!

    (And, they are invalid in your bogus downmods since you show us that much, downmodding troll, via your 'hit & run downmod'... period, lol!).

    Custom hosts files show their superiority over other methods by:

    ---

    1.) Gaining you added speed you PAID for & are losing, to the tune of 40% of most webpages on average due to adbanners bulk, processing required, & being bushwhacked per this article too no less!

    (and for your monies you pay out to ISPs monthly, by getting more bandwidth instead of 40% of your webpages clotted & slowed down by adbanners)

    2.) Added security (blocking out known malicious threats online)

    3.) Added reliability (over DNS servers, unpatched for 1/2 a decade vs. the Kaminsky redirect flaw no less MOSTLY WORLDWIDE (except the root 13 DNSS

  27. Yes I do via the most superior method possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Take a read & for money I pay out to ISP's (like you) -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> Enjoy the program, and the resulting custom hosts file it creates!

    Created for you from reputable sources online for that data, it works (vs. this & many other issues online vs. malicious threats + more as noted above in what you pay out monthly to ISP's for online access), and for more & BETTER:

    ---

    SPEED:

    By blocking out adbanners (malicious or not, but for security blocking them's good & for speed, it unquestionably is, since they are usually on avg. 40% of the bulk/mass of what you browse, AND, eat up CPU cycles, RAM, & other forms of I/O in processing them - not to mention they ARE many times 'bushwhacked' with bogus malicious code per this article)!

    &

    By doing locally resolved host-domain names, vs. remote DNS returns (which can be redirected poisoned, or even be downed DNS servers).

    and more...

    ---

    SECURITY:

    Vs. malicious script housing adbanners, hosts domains, & even malware housing sites!

    It also actually supplements DNS by bypassing it, & VERY safely via your fav. sites hardcoded in your custom hosts file too!

    (Resulting in security AND in saving your bandwidth & giving you FASTER host-domain name resolution locally vs. remote DNS servers, especially if a NXDOMAIN results since you do it LOCALLY via verified hardcoded hosts file entries of your favorites, which also gets you speed too as noted), simply to overcome that flaw & others!

    Hosts files hardcodes are not only faster, but safer too, simply since my program uses reverse DNS hardcoded entries tests, to the in arpa addr 'tld' that houses that information from the DNSSEC root 13 servers - which are secured vs. that flaw noted above in redirect poisonings & others)

    ---

    BETTER "ANONYMITY":

    To an extent, vs. DNS request logs, & the ability to bypass what you may feel are unjust blocks @ the level via being able to bypass DNS as shown above for security & speed, but also DNSBL's (dns block lists) you MAY not agree with...

    ... apk

  28. DNS = faulty (hosts fix it)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    As well as gaining you superior speed, security, reliability, & even "anonymity" to an extent (vs. DNS request logs, & yes, the ability to bypass DNSBL's (dns block lists) you may not agree with too):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 5.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    Which, if you read the list of what it can do for you as an end user of the resulting output it produces listed in the link above, you'll understand how/why...

    "It's as strong as steel, & a 3rd of the weight" - Howard Stark from the film "Captain America"

    ---

    Vs. even DNS servers too (which hosts files can supplement to overcome THEIR shortcomings, as follows):

    ---

    A.) Running another program (sometimes in usermode no less, far, Far, FAR slower than kernelmode by many orders of magnitude & easily attacked) vs. the single hosts file (tightly integrated into the IP stack itself as part of it). ADDING COMPLEXITY & MORE "moving parts" room for error & breakdown!

    B.) Wasting CPU cycles, RAM memory, & other forms of I/O to do what a single file can do

    C.) Wasting ELECTRICITY (especially if the DNS server is setup as a separate machine) even if run as a service/daemon on a single system as user has

    D.) DNS has NUMEROUS faults, & should anyone request a sampling of them? Ask & "ye shall receive" (see my 'p.s.' below...).

    ---

    Resulting in security AND in saving your bandwidth & giving you FASTER host-domain name resolution locally vs. remote DNS servers, especially if a NXDOMAIN results!

    Since you do it LOCALLY via verified hardcoded hosts file entries of your favorites, which also gets you speed too as noted), simply to overcome that flaw & others!

    Hosts files hardcodes are not only faster, but safer too, simply since my program uses reverse DNS hardcoded entries tests, to the in arpa addr 'tld' that houses that information from the DNSSEC root 13 servers - which are secured vs. that flaw noted above in redirect poisonings (& others)

    ---

    AND, especially vs. competing alternate 'solutions', noted below in AdBlock/Ghostery & yes even DNS servers, next, as 'examples thereof'...

    Solutions that used to be good & I even recommended them in security guides I wrote up over the decades now -> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000/XP%22&btnG=Submit&gbv=1&sei=ka3yUKzxB-6_0QHLroCQCA

    That did extremely well for myself (and users of them), for Windows users, for "layered-security"/"defense-in-depth" purposes - the BEST THING WE HAVE GOING vs. threats of all kinds, currently!

    (Not anymore though, & certainly NOT far as AdBlock's concerned especially, not after this):

    ---

    Adblock Plus To Offer 'Acceptable Ads' Option:

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/12/12/2213233/adblock-plus-to-offer-acceptable-ads-option

    (Meaning by default, which MOST USERS WON'T CHANGE, it doesn't block ALL ads - they "souled-out"... talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse")!

    ---

    Plus, Adblock CAN'T DO AS MUCH & not from a single file solution that runs in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode via tcpip.sys, a driver (since it's part of the IP stack & tightly integrated into it) which is far, Far, FAR FASTER than ring 3/rpl 3/usermo

    1. Re:DNS = faulty (hosts fix it)... apk by nickybio · · Score: 2

      Please stop with the long, self-advertising posts. There's no doubt you are amazing and should start your own blog.

    2. Re:DNS = faulty (hosts fix it)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      apk, I'm TROLLING you!!!

    3. Re:DNS = faulty (hosts fix it)... apk by green1 · · Score: 1

      Considering how often this troll has posted that in this article alone (let alone the million other places) I don't see him changing any time soon. Of course using a hosts file is a better solution for people who have one single computer that connects to all sorts of networks. But for my particular situation it is just not ideal, and the DNS server offers a whole bunch of advantages, and almost no disadvantages.
      For me, I administer one list on the DNS server, and it covers all my family's computers, all our cell phones, tablets, and any other internet connected devices. As I'm running the server for other things anyway it costs me nothing.
      Although I do have to do some small amount of administration myself, it beats trusting any other application to do it, especially one spamvertised on some random internet site...

  29. Legitimacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The highest concentration of online security targets do not target pornography, pharmaceutical, or gambling sites as much as they affect legitimate sites such as search engines, online retailers, and social media.

    Just wondering, who exactly draws the line to decide which website is legitmate or not?

  30. Not selling/free & it works != advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "Please stop with the long, self-advertising posts." - by nickybio (1458399) on Friday February 01, @12:07PM (#42762299)

    See subject-line above: "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" till it 'sinks in' for you, troll... by the way: I do NOT take YOUR orders either, get it?

    "Onwards & Upwards", do read on...

    ---

    "There's no doubt you are amazing and should start your own blog." - by nickybio (1458399) on Friday February 01, @12:07PM (#42762299)

    Thank-You: Obviously, you're not since you didn't disprove my points in my post you responded to completely off-topic... lol!

    However:

    ANYONE, with a spine & some programming know-how, clearly unlike you @ this point so far @ least, can be out there "doing the right thing" as I have!

    Additionally - With an excellent ware that does EXACTLY what I stated it does for you!

    Especially over faulty solutions like DNS alone, or browser addons like AdBlock + Ghostery!

    (Yes - I can state that, & validly, since I don't see you disproving my points on DNS' faults & how custom hosts files overcome them)

    No - instead, you're an off-topic troll!

    An off-topic troll that I also additionally wager hasn't done the same & is merely a forums "ne'er-do-well" that hasn't contributed a FRACTION of what I have over time in the art & science of computing!

    (And, to good note in commercial software also, not just freeware like the above, freeware/shareware, highly esteemed trade show showings, & far more in respected written publications in the art & science of computing - That I did while I would guess were done before you were BREATHING even, or, still in DIAPERS, boy...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - Get on topic, perhaps above all else - you FAIL, and rather badly, for all the reasons noted above... period!

    ... apk

  31. What's an ad by isorox · · Score: 1

    Isn't this an advert for some cisco snakeoil?

  32. The message is clear. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The message is clear. You should only look at porn.

  33. Not stupid with MILLIONS of line entries... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject-line above: Do you have 1,928,714++ entries & growing in your custom hosts file? If so, good luck deduplicating/normalizing + filtering out invalid or harmful entries (mostly CDN's for big sites like AMAZON or EBay for instance) from it.

    Thus, you aren't using as efficient a host file as is possible - my program allows that, & does so from a dozen or so REPUTABLE & RELIABLE SOURCES for custom hosts file data.

    AND, if you don't? You aren't as well protected as I am via that program... period!

    * :)

    Thus? You FAIL, for all the reasons noted above!

    However, you DO have 1 'saving grace'/'redeeming feature' apparently - you have the good sense to utilize custom hosts files for more speed, security, reliability & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNSBL &/or DNS request logs)...

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, you all just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-usual "inimitable style", especially vs. "ne'er-do-well" naysayers when I level them with FACTS as shown above:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'" & always is, vs. naysayer trolls...

    ... apk

    1. Re:Not stupid with MILLIONS of line entries... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  34. holy hell, batman, where does that put 4chan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean the safest part of the internet is /b/ ??

  35. Unjustifiable downmods vs.facts != valid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line: TRY disprove my points instead -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760847

    GOOD LUCK: Seriously - you'd NEED It vs. facts extolled there... & truth is truth, facts are facts - period!

    100's of naysayer trolls have *tried* over time, each has failed... lol, yes & I love it!

    * QUITE CLEARLY since all you had was an unjustifiable downmod & nothing more, by NOT disproving facts I enumerated in favor of custom hosts files over AdBlock, doing anything more than a weak downmod with no backing is all you have!

    Disproving my points?

    It is IMPOSSIBLE for you, to whoever "hit & run" downmodded my post that merely states indisputable facts!

    (Thanks for making ME look GOOD on that very account!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes folks - ...

    Especially on custom hosts files' value to end-users of them!

    Yes, when the 'trolls' around here show us "the best they got" is vainly *trying* to "hide" my posts on custom hosts files' value on a plethora of levels in myriad ways in added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs, & DNSBL's) is all they have!

    Hosts are clearly SUPERIOR over inferior OR faulty solutions like AdBlock/Ghostery (crippled + advertiser owned, respectively)!

    Same with DNS alone!

    (Which custom hosts actually safely supplement, outdo in speed of resolution, & are COMPLETELY end-user controlled too - bonus, security, reliability, & even anonymity benefits + overcoming their faults as well)

    ... apk

  36. What About Ads INSIDE the Porn Pages? by retroworks · · Score: 3, Funny

    Would the risks cancel each other out?

    --
    Gently reply
    1. Re:What About Ads INSIDE the Porn Pages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you looking at the ads?

  37. Disprove facts I listed instead... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You can't can you? Obviously not vs. what I posted -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    * :)

    (Plus, face facts: ALL the off-topic illogical 'trolling' in the WORLD doesn't make you look better for it, by-the-by, but it does ME... since you are helpless vs. facts & your immature effete trolling can't change that fact - period!)

    It's also obvious that since you resort to AC trollling posts, you're probably the fool vainly *trying* to "hide my posts" via unjustifiable downmods but not disproving my points + facts listed in it -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    Especially my initial one in THAT link above! It merely exemplifies my points, & yes, I predicted that would happen in its content as well just prior to my 'p.s.'... lol!

    Amazing that (not).

    (Points on Custom hosts' superiority on MANY levels, especially vs. AdBlock/Ghostery especially which are absolutely crippled by default + advertiser owned respectively - talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse" & only an UTTER FOOL would use them since that IS the case with them both now, unfortunately!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - Hey: I know it, YOU KNOW IT, & anyone else reading here with 1/2 a brain does also since you have to resort to "ac trolling"!

    So - Thanks for making me LOOK GOOD, & yourself "not so good" by way of comparison, @ least, & on that very account, troll!

    ... apk

  38. Re:Just Chill Out Already by Jeng · · Score: 2

    If your responses weren't canned and also formatted in such a way that you believe your target audience is capable of no thought then you might not get modded down so much.

    Really your comments look like something an adman on bath salts would come up with, you are two bolded sentences away from being the Time Cube guy.

    Relax, just provide a place for people to start, or if you want to provide more information a single link to a guide will suffice. Oh, and you really should just go back to using an actual account instead of AC.

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    Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
  39. Seems "dns fans" fail vs. my points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    On custom hosts files' ability to overcome DNS faults -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    As well as supplementing DNS for better speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's too)...

    * Where, quite clearly, you show us that all "you & yours" HAVE is effete technically unjustifiable "hit & run" downmods vs. my points enumerated there in the link above, on custom hosts files' clear superiority over DNS alone... & yes - Other 'solutions' as well

    (Especially AdBlock & Ghostery - crippled by DEFAULT in the former, & advertiser owned in the latter... talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse" & only an utter FOOL would use them now because of those facts!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - Don't even *try* to tell me that since you posted you could not have downmodded my post either!

    Since it is ENTIRELY easily doable since the "so-called 'moderation system'" here is easily bypassed by downmodding via your registered account, logging out to preserve cookie state, & then trolling by AC posts - which IS going on along with unjustifiable downmods of my posts here too)

    ... apk

  40. "Hit & Run" downmods = best ya got? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    DNS fans FAIL vs. hosts overcoming DNS faults -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    As well as supplementing DNS for better speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity, to an extent (vs. DNS request logs + DNSBL's too)...

    * Where, quite clearly, you show us that all "you & yours" HAVE is effete technically unjustifiable "hit & run" downmods only, which FAIL vs. my points enumerated there in the link above, on custom hosts files' clear superiority over DNS alone...

    Additionally/ALSO - vs. other 'solutions' as well!

    (Custom hosts are superior - Especially vs. AdBlock & Ghostery - which ARE crippled by DEFAULT in the former, & advertiser owned in the latter... talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse" & only an utter FOOL would use them now because of those facts!)

    As well as downmoderating my post I just replied to in order to pull it back into view, stymying your efforts, easily (lol).

    Bottom-line: You fail, trolls & all you have is effete technically unjustifiable downmods vs. computing facts I posted in my posts on custom hosts files, in order to *try* to vainly "hide" those facts from others (won't work, most here browse below the default view of /.'s forums on AC posts especially)... lmao!

    APK

    P.S.=> Lastly - Don't even *try* to tell me that since you posted you could not have downmodded my post even if you posted with a "registered 'luser'" account, either!

    Since it is ENTIRELY easily doable since the "so-called 'moderation system'" here is easily bypassed by downmodding via your registered account, logging out to preserve cookie state, & then trolling by AC posts - which IS going on along with unjustifiable downmods of my posts here too) - or, more "nefariously" & weasel-like, as trolls are "wont to do" & be?

    Using multiple registered trolling accounts to do so...

    ... apk

  41. Opinions vary (243++:1) on my posts quality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "If your responses weren't canned and also formatted in such a way that you believe your target audience is capable of no thought then you might not get modded down so much." - by Jeng (926980) on Friday February 01, @01:08PM (#42762995)

    See subject-line "Argue w/ the numbers" in upmods of mine vs. your 'sentiments', off topic as they are!

    "EAT YOUR WORDS", flavored with the "bitter taste of SELF-DEFEAT" & your FOOT IN YOUR MOUTH, vs. the orders of magnitude difference in your /. peers vs. you below... lol!

    (Especially with the starting ones on custom hosts files' value on MULTIPLE LEVELS, in added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent (vs. DNS request logs, & DNSBL)):

    ---

    Roughly 243++ of them & I post as AC (hard to get even +1, as /. hides our posts & we "AC"'s start @ ZERO/0 points, unlike registered "lusers", lol!):

    ---

    * THE HOSTS FILE GROUP 41++ THUSFAR (from +5 -> +1 RATINGS, usually "informative" or "interesting" etc./et al):

    APPLYING HOSTS TO DIFF. PLATFORM W/ TCP-IP STACK BASED ON BSD: 2008 -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1944892&cid=34831038
    HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1490078&cid=30555632
    HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1461288&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&mode=thread&cid=30272074
    HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1255487&cid=28197285
    HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1206409&cid=27661983
    0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1197039&cid=27556999
    0.0.0.0 IN HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1143349&cid=27012231
    0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1198841&cid=27580299
    0.0.0.0 in HOSTS:2009 -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1139705&cid=26977225
    HOSTS MOD UP:2009 -> http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1319261&cid=28872833 (still says INSIGHTFUL)
    APK 20++ POINTS ON HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1913212&cid=34576182
    HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1869638&cid=34237268
    HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1907266&cid=34529608
    HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1725068&cid=32960808
    HOSTS MOD UP:2010 -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1743902&cid=33147274
    HOSTS MOD UP:2010 ->

    1. Re:Opinions vary (243++:1) on my posts quality by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Giving people information is not a contest to see who can cram the most information down someones throat in the least friendly way.

      It might be possible that there may be some useful information in your posts, but I would never know because you have to be a bit insane to be able to put up with how you present said information.

      Think about how much information I just gave you in two little sentences, then look at your posts and try to distill that information into the shortest amount of words you can and I am sure your posts would only amount to around 2 well thought out paragraphs with perhaps 3 links total.

      Mainly since I don't see you disprove my points validly on custom hosts files value over DNS, AdBlock & Ghostery - period!

      There was no attempt to disprove the information in your posts. You made a post complaining about being down modded, I attempted to give you information that would help you not get down modded. Granted, I could have used more tact, but there was no attempt to disprove what you wrote.

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      Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
  42. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" trolls (you fail) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trying to vainly "hide" my post with bogus unjustifiable downmods -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761279

    * :)

    Won't work trolls...

    Why? Well - too many folks, if NOT most here in fact, browse below the bogus default /. has on ac posts!

    (A default that *tries* to hide ac posts like mine in that alone from people's view)...

    No - Folks'll see it regardless!

    Then when you do your downmods to vainly *try* to "hide" my posts?

    Well - I simply merely drag them back into view by replying to them... that's all!

    AND

    Then, the most FUN part of all, is to watch you "run, forrest - RUN!!!" when you can't disprove facts & points I enumerated in the link above!

    Fact!

    You fail, trolls... badly, on ALL accounts I just noted: I know it, YOU KNOW IT, & anyone reading with 1/2 a brain even knows it!

    APK

    P.S.=> "Onwards & upwards"...

    ... apk... that's all!

    AND

    Then, the most FUN part of all, is to

  43. Hey troll (you failed again, lol)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See here, "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42762573

    * :)

    Additionally, of course, making you "double-fail" on more than just those facts you run from?

    LMAO - There is also the fact you HAVE to do a "run, forrest: RUN!!!" vs. facts I put out!

    Facts, that quite apparently judging on the results here vs. my posts & trolls like you, that not a single one of you trolls can disprove on the superiority of custom hosts files over AdBlock + Ghostery (crippled & advertiser owned, respectively, talk about "foxes guarding the henhouse" & only a FOOL would rely on them now because of that) as well as DNS (which has faults, & ones custom hosts files overcome & supplement DNS too)!

    ALL, for better speed, security, reliability, + even anonymity (to an extent vs. DNS request logs & DNSBL's you may not like too) that custom hosts file usage yields for end-users of them... fact!

    * Trolls - they're ALL THE SAME, & they NEVER "fail to FAIL", vs. myself (especially on the accounts noted above, lol).

    APK

    P.S.=> Above all else here perhaps? Well - Thanks for making ME, look GOOD & yourselves "not so good" especially by way of comparison since you're reduced to mere off-topic trolling & failed illogical ad hominem attack attempts, via your MULTIPLE failures, noted above...

    ... apk

  44. I need to look at this site... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, for research ;-)

  45. Unjustifiable downmods = "best ya got" trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Disprove my points here instead -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760859

    * :)

    You can't, can you...? Nope!

    (Rather OBVIOUSLY not, in fact!)

    You show us all reading this, since the "best you've got" is technically unjustifiable downmods to effetely & VAINLY *try* to "hide" my posts from view!

    Face facts: You can't disprove my points, & that IS that!

    (Won't work on the bogus downmods either - as most folks here browse WELL BELOW the default level to see ALL posts, even AC ones like mine!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Then, if you do your completely FAILING unjustifiable downmods (with no substance behind them to disprove my points no less)? I just post in reply to them, draggin them back INTO VIEW...

    You fail there too, lol - best part is seeing you HAVE to *try* to "pull that" & failing, as well as seeing you completely reduced to doing a "run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. my points on custom hosts files' value on a plethora of levels for more speed, security, reliability & yes, even anonymity to an extent (vs DNS request logs + DNSBL's you may not like also), in your inability to disprove them with valid computing technical facts to do so, validly!

    ... apk

  46. Let's calculate by Fuzzums · · Score: 1

    So. watching porn all year is just as dangerous as clicking two ads.

    --
    Privacy is terrorism.
  47. You're outnumbered by your /. peers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Argue w/ the #'s" 243++:1 vs. your off topic b.s.-> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760859

    * Point-Blank FACT - You FAIL, & that, IS that... period!

    APK

    P.S.=> You're completely off-topic as well

    &

    You didn't validly disprove my points with countering facts in computing technical data either!

    What I wrote by way of comparison?

    It is HIGHLY in favor of custom hosts files' value to end users of them in added security, speed, reliability & even anonymity gains (to an extent)!

    Plus - on a "myriad-plethora: of levels

    vs.

    faultier or crippled solutions like AdBlock, Ghostery, & DNS!

    (The latter of which custom hosts actually SUPPLEMENT vs. their shortcomings in security & efficiency in a number of ways, including lightening their request load as well for admins of them - BONUS!)

    ... apk

    1. Re:You're outnumbered by your /. peers by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Considering you did not reference my post at all in your "rebuttal", why did you even bother replying?

      I'm trying to interact with you in the hopes of finding out if there is an actual human being on the other end, and if there is one, perhaps help that person.

      --
      Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
  48. Why should I? You're OFF-TOPIC, troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject-line & "rinse, lather, & repeat" -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42763377

    * You have FAILED on multiple levels!

    First by being off topic & trolling!

    Secondly, by opening your mouth & inserting your FOOT into it vs. contrary evidence I produced vs. your b.s.!

    (Mind you, it was from your own /. peers & it quite CLEARLY "did the job" on you, for me, by letting YOU do it to yourself!)

    All, via their upward moderations of my postings vs. your off-topic trolling 'opinion', which is outnumbered by MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE as to the quality of my postings @ /. over time!

    APK

    P.S.=> I don't "interact" with trolls that attempt to attack me on completely invalid off-topic grounds - especially ones our peers on /. easily outnumber, disproving trollish off topic crap... period!

    ... apkl

    1. Re:Why should I? You're OFF-TOPIC, troll! by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Have fun celebrating your victory.

      You have slayed the mighty troll.

      The troll that replied to you when you asked why you were down modded.

      The troll that honestly tried to give you advice.

      btw, I did look over your short list of non hostfile +5 moderated posts and they were not your usual copy/paste-athons with a ton of bolded lines and links to other posts. Your +5 moderated non-host file posts were more ontopic than most of your posts and more human.

      But yes, I am a troll, I am not trying to help, you have won, enjoy yourself.

      --
      Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
  49. Moral of the story... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Cisco recommends to spend more time surfing Porn and download counterfeit software than anything else on the Internet. Point taken.

  50. Users more likely to get hit with malware? by dgharmon · · Score: 1

    'Users are 21 times more likely to get hit with malware from online shopping sites and 27 more times likely with a search engine than [if they weren't using Windows] ..

    --
    AccountKiller
  51. Moral of the story: watch more porn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeaaaah.

  52. backdoors, firmware, and a call to archive linksys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google:

    Cisco router backdoor
    Cisco routers rootkits
    Linksys router backdoor
    Linksys routers rootkits
    Cisco firmware router rootkit backdoor

    OT: Thanks, Cisco, now we need to trust Belkin to release firmware updates?

    JQPublic: Download all of the available updates in software/firmware for all Linksys products, sign and checksum each and host/seed them because once a 'change' happens like this, from Cisco to Belkin, often pages, sites, and sw/fw disappear. Do it NOW.

  53. I don't require advice that's off-topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That documented facts disprove -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42763377

    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> Get on topic, disprove my points here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269 THEN, perhaps I'd take some advisement - otherwise? See above...

    ... apk

    1. Re:I don't require advice that's off-topic by Jeng · · Score: 1

      You are the one who started this off-topic discussion about what you consider unfair down mods. I am staying on the topic of discussion you started, you are the one going off-topic. =P

      Fine, what do you think of the hostfile modifications that Spybot does? Is their list comprehensive enough?

      --
      Don't know something? Look it up. Still don't know? Then ask.
  54. Considering how often downmodding trolls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    With "hit & run" unjustifiable downmods can't disproven this -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667 alone (let alone the million other places) I don't see them changing any time soon.

    ---

    "Of course using a hosts file is a better solution for people who have one single computer that connects to all sorts of networks." - by green1 (322787) on Friday February 01, @05:31PM (#42766255)

    Aha - so, there's the truth, right there... but, you're missing another point my initial post makes: I USE REMOTE DNS SERVERS MYSELF, albeit, specialized filtering ones that block out online threats too, AND, that I use hosts to supplement them, overcoming the list of faults in DNS noted in my initial post too -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    ---

    "But for my particular situation it is just not ideal, and the DNS server offers a whole bunch of advantages, and almost no disadvantages." - by green1 (322787) on Friday February 01, @05:31PM (#42766255)

    Eating more ELECTRICITY (raising your bills, especially if your DNS is a SEPARATE MACHINE) isn't a disadvantage?

    Eating more CPU cycles isn't a disadvantage??

    Eating more RAM isn't a disadvantage???

    Eating more I/O of other forms isn't a disadvantage????

    Using a more "moving parts" complex tool vs. custom hosts (a single file) that're TIGHTLY INTEGRATED into the IP stack itself and LESS moving parts isn't a disadvantage????

    Using DNS with all of its faults I listed (worst being the fact DNS's unpatched vs. the Kaminsky flaw for 1/2 a decade++ still on MOST DNS SERVERS WORLDWIDE, worst of all @ the ISP level) isn't a disadvantage?????

    ---

    "For me, I administer one list on the DNS server, and it covers all my family's computers, all our cell phones, tablets, and any other internet connected devices. As I'm running the server for other things anyway it costs me nothing." - by green1 (322787) on Friday February 01, @05:31PM (#42766255)

    You could migrate a custom hosts file using logon scripts easily, OR, use your AD admin priveleges & a batch file or powershell script to do so as well - with far less disadvantages shown above (worst being the last one, unless you patched, hope you did)... & you can actually SUPPLEMENT DNS' vs. its own SHORTCOMINGS with hosts too.

    ---

    "Although I do have to do some small amount of administration myself, it beats trusting any other application to do it, especially one spamvertised on some random internet site..." - by green1 (322787) on Friday February 01, @05:31PM (#42766255)

    LOL, is THAT "the best you got", along with unjustifiable "hit & run" downmods of my original post? Apparently so!

    However/Again: I do NOT see you disproving the facts I listed in it either...

    APK

    P.S.=> So much for you... apk

    1. Re:Considering how often downmodding trolls by green1 · · Score: 1

      wow.... and the troll just will not give up... completely ignores everything I said, and wants to force his inferior system on the world. too bad the troll is too cowardly to log in.

  55. Unjustifiable downmods = "best ya got", trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Disprove my points here instead -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760859

    * :)

    You can't, can you...? Nope!

    (Rather OBVIOUSLY not, in fact!)

    You show us all reading this, since the "best you've got" is technically unjustifiable downmods to effetely & VAINLY *try* to "hide" my posts from view!

    Face facts: You can't disprove my points in favor of custom hosts files over "almost all ads blocked" (adblock), & that IS that!

    (Won't work on the bogus downmods either - as most folks here browse WELL BELOW the default level to see ALL posts, even AC ones like mine!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Then, if you do your completely FAILING unjustifiable downmods (with no substance behind them to disprove my points no less)? I just post in reply to them, draggin them back INTO VIEW...

    You fail there too, lol - best part is seeing you HAVE to *try* to "pull that" & failing, as well as seeing you completely reduced to doing a "run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. my points on custom hosts files' value on a plethora of levels for more speed, security, reliability & yes, even anonymity to an extent (vs DNS request logs + DNSBL's you may not like also), in your inability to disprove them with valid computing technical facts to do so, validly!

    ... apk

  56. Unjustifiable downmods = "best ya got" trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Disprove my points here instead -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    * :)

    You can't, can you...? Nope!

    (Rather OBVIOUSLY not, in fact!)

    You show us all reading this, since the "best you've got" is technically unjustifiable downmods to effetely & VAINLY *try* to "hide" my posts from view!

    Face facts: You can't disprove my points in favor of custom hosts files over "almost all ads blocked" (adblock), Ghostery, AND DNS... & that IS that!

    (Won't work on the bogus downmods either - as most folks here browse WELL BELOW the default level to see ALL posts, even AC ones like mine!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Then, if you do your completely FAILING unjustifiable downmods (with no substance behind them to disprove my points no less)? I just post in reply to them, draggin them back INTO VIEW...

    You fail there too, lol - best part is seeing you HAVE to *try* to "pull that" & failing, as well as seeing you completely reduced to doing a "run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. my points on custom hosts files' value on a plethora of levels for more speed, security, reliability & yes, even anonymity to an extent (vs DNS request logs + DNSBL's you may not like also), in your inability to disprove them with valid computing technical facts to do so, validly!

    ... apk

  57. Unjustified moddowns = "best ya got" trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Disprove my points here instead -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    * :)

    You can't, can you...? Nope!

    (Rather OBVIOUSLY not, in fact!)

    You show us all reading this, since the "best you've got" is technically unjustifiable downmods to effetely & VAINLY *try* to "hide" my posts from view!

    Face facts: You can't disprove my points in favor of custom hosts files over "almost all ads blocked" (adblock), Ghostery, AND DNS... & that IS that!

    (Won't work on the bogus downmods either - as most folks here browse WELL BELOW the default level to see ALL posts, even AC ones like mine!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Then, if you do your completely FAILING unjustifiable downmods (with no substance behind them to disprove my points no less)? I just post in reply to them, draggin them back INTO VIEW...

    You fail there too, lol - best part is seeing you HAVE to *try* to "pull that" & failing, as well as seeing you completely reduced to doing a "run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. my points on custom hosts files' value on a plethora of levels for more speed, security, reliability & yes, even anonymity to an extent (vs DNS request logs + DNSBL's you may not like also), in your inability to disprove them with valid computing technical facts to do so, validly!

    ... apk

  58. Unjustifiable downmods = "best ya got" trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Disprove my points here instead -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760951

    * :)

    You can't, can you...? Nope!

    (Rather OBVIOUSLY not, in fact!)

    You show us all reading this, since the "best you've got" is technically unjustifiable downmods to effetely & VAINLY *try* to "hide" my posts from view!

    Face facts: You can't disprove my points in favor of custom hosts files over "almost all ads blocked" (adblock), Ghostery, AND DNS... & that IS that!

    (Won't work on the bogus downmods either - as most folks here browse WELL BELOW the default level to see ALL posts, even AC ones like mine!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Then, if you do your completely FAILING unjustifiable downmods (with no substance behind them to disprove my points no less)? I just post in reply to them, draggin them back INTO VIEW...

    You fail there too, lol - best part is seeing you HAVE to *try* to "pull that" & failing, as well as seeing you completely reduced to doing a "run, Forrest: RUN!!!" vs. my points on custom hosts files' value on a plethora of levels for more speed, security, reliability & yes, even anonymity to an extent (vs DNS request logs + DNSBL's you may not like also), in your inability to disprove them with valid computing technical facts to do so, validly!

    ... apk/b

  59. Security Maters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adblock Plus + Ghostery + Host File = Win!

    HostsMan is an awesome application that will automatically update your host file for you:
    http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

  60. Speak for yourself & "Run, Forrest - RUN!!!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    "wow.... and the troll just will not give up" - by green1 (322787) on Saturday February 02, @11:14AM (#42771321)

    See subject-line, & again: Disprove my points here -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667 big talker - you're also reduced to an illogical off-topic FAILING ad hominem attack too now I see!

    Funny that you "can't touch that" in the link above, since it simply contain facts you can't touch (& you know it, otherwise, you'd have disproved it) - especially @ its termination in my 'p.s.' section there... lol!

    (Funny you run from disproving what's in that link, eh? NOT!)

    ---

    "completely ignores everything I said" - by green1 (322787) on Saturday February 02, @11:14AM (#42771321)

    Now, how could I have "ignored" what you said, when I quote you point-by-point & tear up what you said in my responses to you?

    AND??

    You ARE the one pulling the "run, forrest - RUN!!!" from disproving what's in the link above, now aren't you? LOL, yes, you are!

    ---

    "and wants to force his inferior system on the world" - by green1 (322787) on Saturday February 02, @11:14AM (#42771321)

    LMAO - You're the one running the "inferior system" that's SO CHOCK FULL OF BUGS OVER TIME, it's not even funny!

    (One that's unpatched mostly WORLDWIDE TOO, vs. the Kaminsky flaw, & that makes it VERY EASILY REDIRECT POISONABLE!)...

    ---

    "too bad the troll is too cowardly to log in." - by green1 (322787) on Saturday February 02, @11:14AM (#42771321)

    Oh yes, the illogical off-topic ad hominem attack - SO 'effective' (lol, not... more like effete).

    What do I really GAIN being like a little kid, like you, living for "karma points" & being SO TRACKABLE FOR TROLLING due to your post history it's not even funny?

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, since you like giving me guff that's completely off-topic? I challenge a forums "ne'er-do-well" like yourself to show us you've done as much as I have, MORE, & EARLIER + BETTER than I have in the art & science of computing, from this partial list of some of MY favorites I have done over time, ok?

    "My Name is Ozymandias: King of Kings - Look upon my works, ye mighty, & DESPAIR..."

    ----

    Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61

    (&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)

    PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there

    WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there

    PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there

    CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there

    GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it

    HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!

    Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...

    Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRU

  61. WRONG, completely wrong & you lie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You are the one who started this off-topic discussion about what you consider unfair down mods. I am staying on the topic of discussion you started, you are the one going off-topic. =P" - by Jeng (926980) on Saturday February 02, @11:19AM (#42771357)

    Here's the root of the discussion tree between you & I -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    * :)

    ---

    "Fine, what do you think of the hostfile modifications that Spybot does? Is their list comprehensive enough? - by Jeng (926980) on Saturday February 02, @11:19AM (#42771357)

    It's pretty good, just not as comprehensive as mine is & I incorporate their data into mine too PLUS that of another dozen or so reputable & reliable sources for custom hosts files data that ends up gaining a user of them added speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity to an extent as well!

    Here's a quote I often use from a respected security expert from a division of SYMANTEC in fact, regarding that very thing, Spybot & hosts files' efficacy too:

    the words of respected security expert, Mr. Oliver Day, from SECURITYFOCUS.COM to "top that all off" as well:

    A RETURN TO THE KILLFILE:

    http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491

    Some "PERTINENT QUOTES/EXCERPTS" to back up my points with (for starters):

    ---

    "The host file on my day-to-day laptop is now over 16,000 lines long. Accessing the Internet -- particularly browsing the Web -- is actually faster now."

    Speed, and security, is the gain... others like Mr. Day note it as well!

    ---

    "From what I have seen in my research, major efforts to share lists of unwanted hosts began gaining serious momentum earlier this decade. The most popular appear to have started as a means to block advertising and as a way to avoid being tracked by sites that use cookies to gather data on the user across Web properties. More recently, projects like Spybot Search and Destroy offer lists of known malicious servers to add a layer of defense against trojans and other forms of malware."

    Per my points exactly, no less... & guess who was posting about HOSTS files a 14++ yrs. or more back & Mr. Day was reading & now using? Yours truly (& this is one of the later ones, from 2001 http://www.furtherleft.net/computer.htm (but the example HOSTS file with my initials in it is FAR older, circa 1998 or so) or thereabouts, and referred to later by a pal of mine who moderates NTCompatible.com (where I posted on HOSTS for YEARS (1997 onwards)) -> http://www.ntcompatible.com/thread28597-1.html !

    ---

    "Shared host files could be beneficial for other groups as well. Human rights groups have sought after block resistant technologies for quite some time. The GoDaddy debacle with NMap creator Fyodor (corrected) showed a particularly vicious blocking mechanism using DNS registrars. Once a registrar pulls a website from its records, the world ceases to have an effective way to find it. Shared host files could provide a DNS-proof method of reaching sites, not to mention removing an additional vector of detection if anyone were trying to monitor the use of subversive sites. One of the known weaknesses of the Tor system, for example, is direct DNS requests by applications not configured to route such requests through Tor's network."

    There you go: AND, it also works vs. the "KAMINSKY DNS FLAW" & DNS poisoning/redirect attacks, for redirectable weaknesses in DNS servers (non DNSSEC type, & set into recursive mode especially) and also in the TOR system as well (that lends itself to anonymous proxy usage weaknesses I noted above also) and, you'll g

  62. Unjustifiable downmods = "best ya got" trolls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trying to vainly "hide" my post with bogus unjustifiable downmods -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    AND, being unable to validly disprove its points too??

    Please... lol!

    * :)

    Won't work trolls... Why? Well - too many folks, if NOT most here in fact, browse below the bogus default /. has on ac posts!

    (A default that *tries* to hide ac posts like mine in that alone from people's view)...

    No - Folks'll see it regardless!

    Then when you do your downmods to vainly *try* to "hide" my posts?

    Well - I simply merely drag them back into view by replying to them... that's all!

    AND

    Then, the most FUN part of all, is to watch you "run, forrest - RUN!!!" when you can't disprove facts & points I enumerated in the link above!

    Fact!

    You fail, trolls... badly, on ALL accounts I just noted: I know it, YOU KNOW IT, & anyone reading with 1/2 a brain even knows it!

    APK

    P.S.=> "Onwards & upwards"...

    ... apk

  63. NOT immoral when ads do you wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Stealing your bandwidth you pay for out of pocket & infecting you - to the tune of 40% of every webpage on average in data to download & process (raising electricity bills too by that measure, as well as stealing what YOU PAID FOR FROM YOUR ISP MONTHLY).

    I did something about it, myself, & yes - it works -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    * Better than AdBlock or Ghostery (crippled by default in the former, & advertiser owned in the latter - you'd have to be a FOOL to use them now on that note in fact, & they're "foxes guarding the henhouse")...

    Also, better than running a local DNS server too -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    Especially when setup in recursive mode (and you'd HAVE to do this, preferably pointed @ say, ICANN & patched vs. the Kaminsky bug too)...

    Which "opens the door" to the security vulnerability below, AND OTHERS LIKE IT too (see link, has a list of such things over time & ONLY partial too, mind you).

    Especially doing DNS servers in a separate machine (but same running on a single system too just not as much), since it's more complex to work with, as well as overheads in RAM, CPU cycles, & other forms of I/O used, and massively VULNERABLE worldwide even 1/2 a decade later vs. the Kaminsky redirect poisoning flaw - especially since MOST ISP's worldwide haven't patched for it!)

    APK

    P.S.=> The program works with a native file that's TIGHTLY INTEGRATED into the IP stack itself running as efficiently as possible in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode (vs. browser addons known to slow down browsers, already slower by laying over them, & they are in far, Far, FAR SLOWER usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 also)... & this "lightens the load" on DNS servers as well (by avoiding them, & faster IP address resolutions result than from remote DNS servers too - double bonus!)...

    ... apk

  64. AdBlock's inferior to custom hosts files... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You of all people KNOW this already -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760847 if anyone does here, in your replies to me on them previously, quoted next:

    "you're right about hosts files" - by drinkypoo (153816) on Thursday May 26, @01:21PM (#36252958)

    * :)

    APK

    P.S.=> AdBlock's crippled by default (doesn't block all ads anymore, they "souled-out") - however, NoScript you're dead-on right about (still great stuff for Mozilla products users)...

    ... apk

  65. You're acting immorally & illogically... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject-line & the unjustifiable downmod -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42776997 IF you're "so sure of yourself", then WHY TRY TO HIDE MY POINTS IN REBUTTAL to yours, hmmm?

    * :)

    (You show you could NOT deny or disprove my points in the link above validly... which "says it all" for my points, vs. yours!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Since that's the "best you got", in VAINLY *trying* to "hide" my post there shown above with an unjustifiable downmod applied to it? Then, you clearly are shilling for advertisers, nothing more & couldn't combat my points, validly - period!

    ... apk

  66. "Rinse, Lather, & Repeat" (ads do you wrong) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ads steal your bandwidth you pay for out of pocket & infecting you - ads = 40% of the size of every webpage on average in data to download & process (raising electricity bills too by that measure, as well as stealing what YOU PAID FOR FROM YOUR ISP MONTHLY).

    I did something about it, myself, & yes - it works -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42760269

    * Better than AdBlock or Ghostery (crippled by default in the former, & advertiser owned in the latter - you'd have to be a FOOL to use them now on that note in fact, & they're "foxes guarding the henhouse")...

    Also, better than running a local DNS server too -> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3424523&cid=42761667

    (Especially when a DNS server's setup in recursive mode (and you'd HAVE to do this, preferably pointed @ say, ICANN & patched vs. the Kaminsky bug too))...

    Which "opens the door" to the security vulnerability below, AND OTHERS LIKE IT too (see link, has a list of such things over time & ONLY partial too, mind you).

    Especially doing DNS servers in a separate machine (but same running on a single system too just not as much), since it's more complex to work with, as well as overheads in RAM, CPU cycles, & other forms of I/O used, and massively VULNERABLE worldwide even 1/2 a decade later vs. the Kaminsky redirect poisoning flaw - especially since MOST ISP's worldwide haven't patched for it!)

    APK

    P.S.=> The program works with a native file that's TIGHTLY INTEGRATED into the IP stack itself running as efficiently as possible in Ring 0/RPL 0/kernelmode (vs. browser addons known to slow down browsers, already slower by laying over them, & they are in far, Far, FAR SLOWER usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 also)... & this "lightens the load" on DNS servers as well (by avoiding them, & faster IP address resolutions result than from remote DNS servers too - double bonus!)...

    ... apk