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Nokia Receives $1.35B Grant To Develop Graphene Tech

silverpig writes "It now appears that graphene has reached a point worthy of serious, direct industrial attention. The grant money itself comes from the European Union for the Future and Emerging Technologies (FET), but the work will be done by a large non-governmental company with eyes on developing useful real-world applications. Smartphones contain many components with high potential for making use of graphene. From the article: 'Nokia is leading the electronic firms within the Graphene Flagship Consortium, which includes 73 other companies and academic institutions from a number of mediums. The Finnish handset manufacturer has received a grant of $1.35 billion to research and develop graphene for practical applications, with the European Union for the Future and Emerging Technologies (FET) providing the grant itself.'"

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  1. This Could Be Promising by ltrand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Both the tech that comes from it, and the funding process model if it is successful. I wonder how much Nokia is going to try to solo this project vs. working with other science entities. This has the potential of showing the world either how to, or how not to, do research. It's too bad that the US and the EU can't work together in a more efficient way to develop material sciences. How much tech is being held up by the slow advances in materials development? Batteries, solar, next-gen computing, ect, ect, ect. At least someone is starting to push hard into this.

    1. Re:This Could Be Promising by davester666 · · Score: 2

      So the EU is giving Nokia 1.3 billion dollars develop and patent things with Graphene for it's own use?

      Yum. Tasty pork!

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    2. Re:This Could Be Promising by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Funny

      Other articles I've read say that's half of it promised in matching funds, and even that isn't completely certain.

      I didn't know it was all going to Nokia. That's surprising. I'm guessing they'll make an amazing phone out of graphene, foldable, a trillion core processor, flies, and has AI... and then they'll kill it off and only sell windows phones.

    3. Re:This Could Be Promising by Zorpheus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Even the summary says that Nokia is just one of 74 participants. No idea why they write that Nokia gets everything.

    4. Re:This Could Be Promising by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      Why shouldn't the EU help along what was one of Europe's premier tech companies and help give them an edge over the Chinese, Koreans and Americans?

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  2. Wrong, wrong and wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nokia is involved in a graphene research program along with 73 other companies. The research program gets 1 billion euros over 10 years. Nokia will probably only get a fraction of that money.

    1. Re:Wrong, wrong and wrong. by EzInKy · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article says differently, but I suspect you may be right. Like many I don't regularly read articles. For the most part I find the comments much more informative, but with Nokia stories I can't help it. I just can't get rid of the hope that the maker of the best phone I've ever owned (N900) will come to its senses and market another and perhaps even freer one despite its deal with the devil.

      Anyway, a little searching turned up this Bloomberg article that seems to back your assertion.

      "University-led research projects to investigate graphene and the functioning of the human brain each won 1 billion euros ($1.35 billion) in European Union funding, the European Commission said.

      Researchers at Sweden’s Chalmers University will lead a project to investigate graphene, the thinnest and toughest material ever produced which conducts electricity 30 times faster than silicon. Royal Philips Electronics NV, Alcatel- Lucent SA, Thales SA (HO) and Nokia Oyj (NOK1V) are among companies involved in the program. Another project simulating the way the human brain works is led by researchers at the Ecole Polytechnique Federale of Lausanne, Switzerland, and includes SAP AG (SAP), Cray Inc. (CRAY) and International Business Machines Corp. (IBM) "

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    2. Re:Wrong, wrong and wrong. by cheater512 · · Score: 2

      I would have given a arm and a leg for a N950 (N9 crossed with the N900).
      The bastards never sold it. Even eBay turned up blank.

    3. Re:Wrong, wrong and wrong. by silverpig · · Score: 2

      Yep it seems you are correct. I came across the post via my twitter feed, which led me to the THG article as the source. It seems THG got their info from Nokia, and while Nokia mentioned they were part of a consortium that won the grant, THG wrote it up as Nokia being the winner. I'll see if I can get /. to update the article.

  3. Grossly wrong by ndverdo · · Score: 5, Informative

    this is a unusually grossly wrong submission having gotten to the /. frontpage. The gross project funding amounts to EUR 1 billion (approx. USD 1.35 billion) which is allocated to all the over 100 participant institutions, companies and groups - of which Nokia is only one. The effort is led by Chalmers University of Sweden.

    1. Re:Grossly wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Thanks, I reacted strongly to this myself. This is a very big deal for Chalmers University of Technology who are the ones who actually "won" anything here, and it would be nice to at least mention them in an article summary since they are the driving force behind the project. Nokia is one partner out of many.

      Chalmers have been at the forefront of experimental nano science in Europe since their big investment in the MC2 building with a state-of-the-art clean room, with a particular focus on materials science and microwave electronics. They have a theoretical department to go with this, and the head of the theoretical division, Jari Kinaret, is the one who will commandeer this project.

      This months-old article lays out the thoughts before the big project landed, where they originally budgeted for a ~€80M project. Now they actually got an order of magnitude more funds which will expand the project greatly, but it's still the same focus.

      A more recent article that even more clearly lays out the circumstances.

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  4. Boron by olsmeister · · Score: 2

    Just read an interesting article today about using boron as a possible graphene alternative.

  5. Carbon future by LongearedBat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "When we talk about graphene, we’ve reached a tipping point. We’re now looking at the beginning of a graphene revolution. Before this point in time, we figured out a way to manufacture cheap iron that led to the Industrial Revolution. Then there was silicon. Now, it’s time for graphene."

    This is something that I've been looking forward to for various reasons: plenty of cheap carbon available, perhaps carbon circuitry will integrate better with biology, and I believe that electric conductivity between covalently joined atoms (as in graphene and nanotubes) is the way towards viable superconductors.

    1. Re:Carbon future by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      I'm by no means an expert, but I understand that the physics of superconductors is barely understood even by the most knowledgeable - covalent bonds certainly can't explain it, as high-temperature superconductors tend to have highly complex structures. The highest temperature room-pressure superconductor known to date is a compound of copper, oxygen, mercury, calcium and barium - and not a simple compound at that, but a precision-grown crystal.

  6. Pardon my ignorance... by tomzyk · · Score: 3

    ... but I can't seem to find the answer to my question in the article.

    What exactly are they going to be using the graphene for?
    Is it going to be used for the actual conductive material on circuit boards?
    Is it going to be used to improve cellphone antennas?
    Is it going to be used to greatly increase the structural integrity of the phone casing and/or screen?
    Is it going to be used for some new smell-o-vision capabilities in future phones?!
    Heat-sink? Transistors? ... Your own personal space elevator?!?

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    1. Re:Pardon my ignorance... by game+kid · · Score: 2

      What exactly are they going to be using the graphene for?

      Hmm...let's start our fact-find quest by reading the summary...

      ...something something Nokia mumble mumble Graphene Flagship Consortium, grumble blahblah...

      ...ah, "Consortium"! Something that involves patent pooling and money exchanges and no-poach agreements (that never happened of course but we'll just agree to the settlement because no wrongdoing) and lots of nicely- (or less-so) worded requests for even more money from governments and end users. Also something about Nokia, so it'll probably ultimately be nothing of value or absurdly durable or, somehow, both. Now to the article...

      Nokia is proud to be involved with this project, and we have deep roots in the field – we first started working with graphene already in 2006," said Henry Tirri, EVP, CTO of Nokia. "Since then, we have come to identify multiple areas where this material can be applied in modern computing environments. We’ve done some very promising work so far, but I believe the greatest innovations have yet to be discovered blahbitty blahblahblaaah... industrial value chains and other such megacrap."

      ...which I gather means that even Nokia's xVPs and CxOs have no idea what graphene stuff will appear in the public marketplace but it'll involve tech and research and stuff and maybe also phones because they're involved with that sort of thing but [yet another rant about the whole Windows Phone thing, with my opinions].

      (I obviously hope for better on all those points but through Slashdot I've learned to feel depressed about the current state of tech-business affairs, even and especially wrt Slashdot. Yay! *buries head in hands*)

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  7. Re:developing useful real-world applications. by rusty0101 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Probably, but you just know that PC World will be flooded with articles about how the new Graphene interface based phones will take over the business cell phone market, and Endgadget will have a dozen articles by 2 authors about how Apple had developed it first and how the Apple products being released into the market have a much slicker implementation.

    People of course will be dropping both editions into the toilet.

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  8. Patents? Who will own them? by advocate_one · · Score: 2

    It had better NOT be the beneficiaries of this largesse... the corporations can have licenses as a reward for doing the donkey work, but the patents should belong to the people whose money is being used...

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  9. Re: Only a small part goes to Nokia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The FET flagship projects, of which this is one, have a budget of up to 100 million euro per year. The amount contributed by the EU will be considerably lower, as this number includes costs borne by the project members that are not reimbursed by the EU.

    According to the rules governing these kinds of EU projects, Nokia will be able to request reimbursment for up to 50% of their R&D costs in the project. The actual levels of reimbursment may be lower, depending on how the budget is allocated. The EU is actually pretty aggressive about ensuring that money is actually spent in accordance with the contract that the project members are required to sign.

    But way, there's more!

    The press release from the project itself states that the initial 30 months have a budget of only 54 million euro and involve 126 different research groups. We don't know yet what the project will look like after that initial phase since new participants and activities will be added through an open (i.e. competitive call). Based on my experience, the project will almost certainly use the full 1 billion euro, eventually, but there's know way to know how those funds will be allocated, yet.

    Nokia's share of the budget by the end of the project? My guess would be at the very most 50 million euro over ten years (of which they about half from the EU and have to put up the rest themselves), but that is just a guess.

  10. Why Nokia ? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2

    Why Nokia ?

    First of all, there are a lot of reputable research labs in Europe.

    Second of all, Graphene can be used in A WIDE RANGE OF DIFFERENT FIELDS, --- from medical research to electronics to military to environmental science --- smartphone is just _one_ of the many.

    Personally I think many other research labs are more deserving of the research grant than Nokia.

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  11. can someone please answer this? by dave69 · · Score: 2

    Would using graphene as a kind of laser printer toner, allow us to print out circuit boards on paper? or does it need to be in a structure, that would prevent the electrical properties of the fused dust being useful?