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Startup Offers Pay-Per-Page E-Books

judgecorp writes "TotalBoox, a startup from Tel Aviv, plans to sell pay-as-you-read eBooks, charging for each page read. 'We are trying to rid the world from outdated, expensive ritual of buying a book before you read it,' says founder ~Yoarv Lorch, saying that readers can save money and move on if they start a best-seller on the spur of the moment and it turns out to be a turkey. But what about slow-burning classics that you have to 'get into'? What about reference books? And all the bits of a reference book that you don't actually need? The company has a beta app on Google Play for Android tablets."

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  1. Re:New business scheme by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hardly new. Take a look on Amazon sometime - there's tons of "ebooks" that are hardly more than pamphlets going for a buck or two apiece.

  2. Sign me up by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I would be all over this. I have tons of reference ebooks that I only use a few chapters out of. If it's $40 for a 600 page book, I would gladly pay $10 for the 100 pages I would actually use even though the unit price (per page) would be higher. As it stands now, there are a lot of books I shy away from buying because a good chunk of it is irrelevant to me and the total purchase price is above my budget.

    1. Re:Sign me up by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I also see this being popular with students. Buy a chapter as it comes up in class... less upfront cost and I've never had a course that used every chapter of a textbook - even the one time a professor special-ordered an abridged version of his text of choice with only certain chapters.

    2. Re:Sign me up by cbope · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It won't take long before the books are structured in such a way as to make this impractical. Constant references to other parts of the book for example...

      Sorry, but this is NOT a good idea, it will only be abused by the book sellers.

    3. Re:Sign me up by camperdave · · Score: 2

      I would gladly pay $10 for the 100 pages I would actually use ...

      How do you know which hundred of the 600 pages you will actually need without buying the entire book to begin with?

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  3. Re:BUT by alen · · Score: 2

    so only buy the highest reviewed books

    i haven't bought an ebook i didn't like yet

  4. Re:A stupid idea, badly executed by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Or worse, they go out of business just before you can buy the last chapter of a TotalBoox exclusive.

  5. ILL by hardie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Haven't these people heard of inter library loan?

  6. This will lead to terrible books... by Lispy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ....that just try to keep you turning pages just like soap operas. All the drama will be lost by an effectdriven style that resembles "keep tuned for the next page where he will get the girl....no really just read on a weee bit more."

    1. Re:This will lead to terrible books... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      - But, how can we stretch it further?

      He landed in his chair and poured a glass of whisky.

      - Sir?

      - Yes, William?

      - May I make a suggestion?

      - Go ahead, William.

      - You know about Dumas?

      - Dumas?

      - Classic French writer.

      - Yes, yes, Three Musketeers and all that. What about him?..

      He was visibly starting to lose his temper.

      - They say he was paid by the line.

      - Yes?

      - And he had a simple trick to make his works stretch out...

      - Oh, for God's sake!..

      He leapt from his chair, spilling his whisky, and barely stopped himself from grabbing William's collar, opting instead for sticking his finger under man's nose.

      - Just spit it all out already, or else!..

      William took a step back, visibly shaken.

      - Alright, alright!

      He took a breath and went on.

      - So, basically, he had two or three characters speaking in short lines. Just make each spoken line one printed line and...

      - Yes! Oh, yes, I can see now!

      He was rapidly pacing across the room.

      - Say, what if we stretch it even further by sprucing it up with some short actions and description?

      - Splendid idea, sir!

      (cont'd)

    2. Re:This will lead to terrible books... by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      You might be onto something here. I guess you could call it novel serialization. Imagine if this had occured back during the Victorian era. It might have killed literature dead in its tracks. Glad that never happened.

      But at least novel serialization took place at the chapter or several chapter levels, which at least leaves a fair bit of media to go into details and other stuff.

      Writing, as a medium, is a different way of expressing an idea. You could also do it with music, a movie/film, a play, video game or other medium. The thing is, they all have their unique quirks that can make one medium better than another. Too often people assume a book can be translated to a movie (it can't directly because you can do things in a book that will entertain a reader, but bore a viewer), likewise a video game and movie/book transformations. Not to say some aren't successful (See the Halo franchise - with video games and NYT bestselling books), but they are successful because they concentrate on what makes each medium special and the strengths each brings - they're not direct translations.

      At the page level, all you're going to get is a Michael Bay like novel where no cut lasts longer than 3 paragraphs (seriously - watch a Michael Bay movie and you'll see no scene lasts longer than 10 seconds before you cut to a different angle), and every page would have some explosion or other.

      Hell, add in some creative pagination so it always breaks off in the middle...

  7. The Classics are free by jjsimp · · Score: 2, Informative

    ....what about slow-burning classics that you have to 'get into'?

    Why would you pay for the classics? Go to Project Guttenberg and download at will for free.

    1. Re:The Classics are free by Fallingcow · · Score: 2

      Translations that aren't in 19th century English trying to sound like Attic Greek?

      Nice introductions and footnotes benefiting from recent scholarship?

      I could go on, but most of the other nice things about newer-than-1923 editions of classics are only found in (or are only good in) print books, for now. Project Gutenberg is noble and all, but it's fairly awful as a source of top-notch copies of the classics. Until one of the GitHub-alike projects to build on it takes off (if ever) it'll likely stay that way.

  8. Choose your own adventure? by Joehonkie · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clearly the best way to consume choose your own adventure books. I mean nobody really picks every choice, right?

  9. Re:New business scheme by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 2

    Publish hundreds of books 10 pages long

    Why not? As long as you are upfront with your customers. Kickstarter style, write the first chapter of a dozen books, then finish the ones that people actually read to the end.

    Yes, that will work best for the immediate action thrillers. The slow burners can still use the old business model of writing whole books that you may or may not get paid for.

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  10. Re:BUT by Joehonkie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lots of books get great reviews and I hate them anyways.

  11. Micropayments taken to the extreme by rknop · · Score: 2

    Holy cow... like most people, I already don't like micropayments in most circumstances-- it leads to stress because you're watching what you do at all times knowing that every little thing leads to more money being charged, rather than the comfort of knowing that you've got what you got. This, however, is the concept metastasized.

    This is the kind of headline I'd expect to read on April 1.

  12. Re:BUT by RabidReindeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    But Amazon lets you return ebooks!

    Sometimes even when you didn't want to!

  13. Re:New business scheme by History's+Coming+To · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is pretty much the current model anyway. Authors rarely write an entire book unless they've been commissioned to do so and paid an advance, instead the normal model is to provide a publisher with a synopsis and a sample chapter or two. Self-published authors tend to write whole books up-front, but that's usually because it's a labour of love rather than a way of making a living - there's an awful lot of (generally awful) books out there written without the benefit of an editor or proof-reader and it shows.

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  14. just wait for the next scheme... by girlinatrainingbra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Next scheme coming up will be to add eyetrackers and scan which words you are reading which will allow (sarcasm begin) two great new additions:
    1 -- why, you only pay for the words you read! Boring paragraphs like Jules Verne's 20k Leagues of their Own Under the Sea 5-page long paragraphs describing every color of every fish seen can be skipped and you'll save money!!!
    2 -- need to re-read a sentence to grok its meaning? We'll charge you for the opportunity!
    (/sarcasm)
    Seriously, why do people fall for these crazy crazy ideas? Lke submitting your schoolwork to turnitin and giving them a life-time or perpetual license on your work... as in that other article earlier.... cray-crazy!

  15. Re:They have this already by camperdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sell the first N pages for $0.01 per page or whatever, but the last chapter is $2.00 per page.

    I could see that working for mystery novels...

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  16. Not good by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is the opposite of the intent of US copyright (note this is not a US app/project), which is to, for a limited time (too long right now, but that's another discussion), secure the rights to the author so that eventually the work will promote progress. From the constitution:

    To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

    In the US context, at least, this would work against such a thing. The way I see it, someone writes a book, eventually, that book should become part of the shared knowledge base, arts base, etc. I'm wary of a concept where a book is only available in part, where readers may never get the whole thing, and where e-readers... not exactly known for avoiding DRM and other such intellectual poison... contain the only (partial) copies.

    A used book should be a treasure, something saved and valued and passed along. Electronic or not.

    No sir, don't like it.

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  17. Re:The Plant by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, he cut it short because it WAS working well

    False. This is the Wired article wherein his assistant, Marsha Defillipo states:

    By part four, only 46 percent of the people who downloaded the book paid for it, DeFillipo said.

    As I always say when these stories come up, and routinely get modded down, people are lazy and cheap. If they can get something for nothing, they will, regardless if it hurts the person producing the work. They feel they are entitled to take someone else's work without compensation and will use every excuse and twist of language to justify their actions.

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  18. Re:BUT by nogginthenog · · Score: 2

    I bought an ebook that had terrible formatting. For example, there was no spacing between chapters. Amazon refunded it no problem.

  19. Re:They have this already by tyrione · · Score: 2

    Sell the first N pages for $0.01 per page or whatever, but the last chapter is $2.00 per page.

    I could see that working for mystery novels...

    Really? That scheme would result in one action: hardbound books and paperback sales through the roof.