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E-Mail Hack Exposes Bush Family Pictures, Correspondence

New submitter rHBa sends this article about another high-profile email account breach: "The apparent hack of several e-mail accounts has exposed personal photos and sensitive correspondence from members of the Bush family, including both former U.S. presidents. The posted photos and e-mails contain a watermark with the hacker's online alias, 'Guccifer.' ... Included in the hacked material is a confidential October 2012 list of home addresses, cell phone numbers, and e-mails for dozens of Bush family members, including both former presidents, their siblings, and their children. ... Correspondence obtained by the hacker indicates that at least six separate e-mail accounts have been compromised, including the AOL account of Dorothy Bush Koch, daughter of George H.W. Bush and sister of George W. Bush. Other breached accounts belong to Willard Heminway, 79, an old friend of the 41st president who lives in Greenwich, Connecticut; CBS sportscaster Jim Nantz, a longtime Bush family friend; former first lady Barbara Bush’s brother; and George H.W. Bush’s sister-in-law. "

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  1. *shiver* by koan · · Score: 2, Funny

    G "dubya" Bush's shower self portrait.

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    1. Re:*shiver* by crazyjj · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey Laura, I'm sending you a picture of The Decider!

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  2. I hope this guy's good... by Dancindan84 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The kid gloves are off. They're handing out actual jail time for people hacking phones/email for nude pics of Scarlett Johansson. If they find him/her, this dude's going to end up in gitmo over some addresses and phone numbers.

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    1. Re:I hope this guy's good... by Sir+or+Madman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you enter my house at take my photo album, that's theft regardless of whether the door was locked or unlocked. How is this any different? There is a reasonable expectation to privacy for an email account.

    2. Re:I hope this guy's good... by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

      The drones are already in search mode.

    3. Re:I hope this guy's good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not according to the gubmint. According to them, after 180 days it is abandoned and they can search it for any reason without a warrant.

    4. Re:I hope this guy's good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Only if the victim is famous. Good luck getting any help from the legal system if *your* account gets hacked. Back to work, plebe!

    5. Re:I hope this guy's good... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hope this guy is not good, he deserves to be caught. As much as I despise the Bush administrations, they are out of power, and this just looks like personal correspondence. If evidence of wrongdoing is uncovered, this might be justified. But until then, this is just juvenile.

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    6. Re:I hope this guy's good... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And since this involves 2 former presidents and their families, you can bet it will be the secret service and other high profile agencies looking into this.

      He'd better be damned good to avoid the full wrath of the agencies which are going to be all over this.

      They might even take time out of enforcing copyright for this. ;-)

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    7. Re:I hope this guy's good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      The kid gloves are off. They're handing out actual jail time for people hacking phones/email for nude pics of Scarlett Johansson. If they find him/her, this dude's going to end up in gitmo over some addresses and phone numbers.

      Could be worse. He could have shared a song or movie. Ever the serial rapist/murderers get chills when you tell them you're in for that.

    8. Re:I hope this guy's good... by Gripp · · Score: 4, Informative

      What is it If I enter your house and take photo's of your photos? On a quick look in florida, unless you break something (vandalism) or the owners are home it would be classified as 810.08 Trespass in structure or conveyance which is a 2nd degree misdemeanor, which has a prison term of not greater than 60 days. So based on your conclusion he should be looking at about the same. Not the 10 years the OP presented.

    9. Re:I hope this guy's good... by DaHat · · Score: 2

      Ahh good, someone else who sees the foolishness of so many here.

      It occurs to me that some like the above AC would be defending George Zimmermann had a gun, burglary tools, or a crack pipe been found on the body of Trayvon Martin.

      "He looked like he was up to no good... so I shot him... turns out I was justified in the end... look at all of these illegal and dangerous things he had on him" they would hope he would say... and yet, that is not how our system works.

      You do not shoot first and *hope* the person you shot is actually up to no good.

      You do not do massive document dumps in the *hopes* that something within *may* contain evidence of wrong doing.

      If you have evidence, you present it... otherwise these people are advocating for a system where their own PCs and emails are targets for hacking and disclosure... as I'm sure with a bit of looking we could find evidence of wrong-doing.

      Police: "What’s this here? She doesn't look 18... in fact, she doesn't even look 8."

      AC: "That’s not mine! I don't know how it got there! I... I... I think that was in a virus laden pop-up that I closed right away...

      Police: "Too bad... you are still in possession of child porn... good thing that anonymous citizen hacked into your PC, posted the disk contents to the web, kicked off a crowd-sourcing effort to find evidence of wrong-doing, then turned over the results to the police... enjoy your Federal PMITA prison."

      Funny how so many of those advocating for a lack of privacy for some are posting as ACs so as to try to ensure their own.

    10. Re:I hope this guy's good... by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      It's called risk of escalation and implied direct physical threat. There is a hug difference between guessing some ones password and accessing their email account and entering some ones home with the direct threat of personal confrontation. Now moron, let me break it to you simply, idiot statements like yours do no ramp up the penalty for guessing some ones password the reduce the penalty for something like home invasion, so you and those idiot modders think before you spread stuff that has real negative consequences.

      I'm sick of sentencing bullshit the continually lowers direct physical threats and attacks while ramping up insignificant non-physical offences that incur negligible losses. It's like the crap of sending drug users to prison for decades and completing fucking ignoring home break ins because it's so much more work and effort, than just committing an illegal search.

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  3. I thought it was billions of deaths? by Andy+Prough · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Clearly you haven't been reading your Huff-Po this morning.

  4. Re:For lying us into a war... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh dear, it appears that someone's privacy has been violated without a warrant. Hey, Bush family, join the club!

  5. Picked the right President by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just don't try the same trick with Obama. He has no problem drone bombing US citizens.

  6. The lesson to be learned by TVmisGuided · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's an object lesson here: there's no such thing as privacy on the Internet.

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    1. Re:The lesson to be learned by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      The object lesson is that people are too stupid to realize what is really in store for them until it is too late.

      The Bush family gets owned, and the hacker becomes the new girlfriend of Enrico the Drug Dealer in the Federal Pen when he's caught. No one is going to be winning here, except the media.

  7. Re:For lying us into a war... by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 3, Insightful

    not our fault that sunni and shia hate each other. wonder how the hazara are doing in afghanistan? everyone hates them.

  8. Re:For lying us into a war... by Gripp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No one has issue with Afghanistan. The OP is more than likely talking about Iraq. Whom we were literally lied to and told they had ties to al-qaida, and then oops we misunderstood the report - but they have "weapons of mass-destruction1!!!!!" oops, we misread that one too, "but sadam is torturing his people!!", oops, turns out they weren't asking for help.. "ohhh.... okay well then I guess we need to stick around to clean up. "

    can you imagine having died and learned that was the reason? That there wasn't one, never was, but now more need to die because of the mess we created by being there wrongfully in the first place? Can you imagine that the vast majority of our current debt is because of the massive amount being pumped into the war in iraq? And you're going to defend it?

  9. Re:For lying us into a war... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And you believe that justifies the senseless carnage your war brought?

    Never mind those local conflicts were never any of your business to begin with.

    You people will never get it. You will never understand accountability or responsibility for your actions. Where mature adults would feel ashamed and penitent for what their country had done, America is obviously governed and populated by grown-up children who defiantly think they can have their way and never suffer consequences.

  10. Re:OK, I'm clueless here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...guess I've been out of the hacking biz for too many decades, but how are these mailboxes being compromised? I mean, it seems a rather long and arduous task to brute force passwords, especially if there are timeouts/captchas/whatever after so many missed passwords. Are these inside jobs?

    I know I get emails daily from friends who have had their email accounts hacked...I simply can't believe that someone is sitting in front of their computer or even automatically generating passwords to hack these accounts.

    Palin's account was hacked by guessing the "lost password" secret security question, such as "what was your mother's maiden name?"

    I'm guessing something similar happened here.

  11. Re:OK, I'm clueless here... by Spectre · · Score: 2

    It depends ... it is pretty easy to hack a common person's e-mail. Look them up on FaceBook (if they have an account there).

    Did they leave their e-mail address publicly available? Now you have their e-mail address, all you need is a password.

    Look over their profile, noting the names of pets, significant others, family members as well as any publicly mentioned interests, celebrities, whatever.

    Use variations of those names of pets, family members, etc as a password, if the account the e-mail is on requires numbers, toss 123 or the age of family member at the end. If the person was a fan of a particular car, try the model and year, etc. You get the idea.

    The above will fail more often than not, but sometimes you* get lucky.

    *I say you, but of course neither you nor I would be so malicious as to go breaking into an e-mail account.

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  12. Re:For lying us into a war... by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's actually a pretty ridiculous assertion. The administration is going to say what they are going to say, and if they lie to us, precisely what intelligence assets to we have to prove them wrong?

    Were you paying attention in 2003? It was clear then that most of their intelligence was fabricated. Opposition to the Iraq war produced some of the largest protests ever. Lots of people figured out that they were being lied to.

    In the end, we only found out that there were intelligence problems because we went there and had a look around ourselves, which is to say, the army did and they found nothing. We wouldn't have gotten that sort of information any other way.

    Bullshit. We could have waited for Hans Blix to finish. But Bush&Co knew that he wouldn't find anything that would support an invasion. Therefore he couldn't be allowed to finish.

    Let's remember, the fact that Saddam did not have WMDs would actually have been less surprising if we didn't already know he had them at one point and used them on the Iranians and the Kurds.

    The fact that Saddam did not have WMDs was not surprising at all.

    In retrospect, I don't see why you think it would have been obvious to the American public that Saddam wouldn't have had weapons that he clearly demonstrated possessing and using in the past

    Because there was no physical evidence, only fear mongering.

    The fact that he did not have them is something that would not have been immediately apparent to the man on the street.

    The man on the street should be able to recognize fear mongering when he sees it. When you hear things like "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud", you KNOW you are being manipulated. It was blatantly obvious in 2003.

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  13. Re:For lying us into a war... by Hatta · · Score: 2

    At what cost? Over the past 10 years we lost about 3000 people in Afghanistan. In the 10 years before that, we lost about 3000 people in terrorist attacks. This is a draw at best. And that's if and only if you expect a 9/11 attack every 10 years, which is not historically the case.

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  14. Re:Unless You're Aaron Swartz by JazzLad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdot is so hypocritical sometimes.

    I hear ya, man, it's almost as if there was more than one of us.

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  15. Re:For lying us into a war... by Hatta · · Score: 2

    We certainly could have went in with WWII style annihilation and occupied what was left of the country afterwards

    And kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people, rather than just thousands of them? And this is a mistake in your eyes?

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  16. Re:For lying us into a war... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am also not sure why you also think that a country that was actually attacked by terrorists only two years previously was going to be particularly skeptical about fear mongering either.

    Because after a crisis is when people are most susceptible to fear mongering. Is this not obvious? Look at what happened after Sandy Hook, a shit load of fear mongering over guns, people crying "something must be done!", when violent crime is at historical lows.

    Politicians use crises as cover for power grabs. That is how fear mongering works. Whenever there is a national tragedy, you will find politicians celebrating the opportunity to ram through bad laws and bad policy. It happens every time, so there's no excuse for being ignorant.

    I knew from the moment I saw the planes hit the towers on 9/11/2001 that our overreaction would hurt us far more than the attack did, and I was right. I don't see how anyone could possibly expect anything else. If the way this has played out wasn't obvious from day one, you simply have no clue how the world works.

    And being right or wrong in the absence of your own ability to verify makes you ignorant, but it doesn't make you culpable.

    If you distort evidence to bolster your reasoning, that absolutely makes you culpable. Being honestly wrong is OK. But the Bush administration was never honest in the run up to Iraq, it was blatantly dishonest, and that was obvious to anyone who paid attention at the time.

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  17. Re:For lying us into a war... by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 2

    Last month a drone strike killed 24 civilians, with zero enemy combatants present. Bush would get blamed for this kind of thing outright, yet nobody blames obama.

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  18. Re:Agreed, dick move by Rockoon · · Score: 2

    Note to FBI annd SS: The above poster should be suspect #1

    Lets not kid ourselves, he is guilty of something so let the investigation commence.

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  19. Re:For lying us into a war... by deimtee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And you don't think that spending a shitload of time, resources and effort on a war with zero return benefit might have had something to do with the recession?
    Money is just numbers in a bank, the war pissed away a lot of lives and real resources that can't be recreated by adding more zeros to MIC bank accounts.

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  20. Re:For lying us into a war... by dbIII · · Score: 2

    What is this revisionist crap? Powell threw away his political career (and fell on a sword for Bush) because he told obvious lies to the UN about WMD and nobody in the room believed him. Blair etc pretended to believe to get a fake justification for their actions. The WMD stuff came from a fucking PR company FFS!

  21. Re:For lying us into a war... by dbIII · · Score: 2

    You are deliberately misleading the kiddies again with another very stupid lie. The links are far more unlikely than that between the Taliban and Kevin Bacon.
    Think about it people - a secular government that see religeous extremists as it's biggest threat and has tortured and killed thousands of them teaming up with a bunch of the people they usually round up and shoot?