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The Return of CISPA

Posted by Soulskill on from the second-verse-same-as-the-first dept.

Presto Vivace sends this news from the Hill: "House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and ranking member Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) said Friday that they plan to re-introduce the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) next week during a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. The bill is aimed at improving information-sharing about cyber threats between government and industry so cyberattacks can be thwarted in real time. ... It would also encourage companies to share anonymous cyber-threat information with one another, and provide liability protection for businesses so they don't get hit with legal action for sharing data about cyber threats. " You may recall CISPA from last year, when it was hailed as being even worse than SOPA, the Stop Online Piracy Act. We discussed why it was a bad bill back then; the new version is reportedly identical, so all of the same reasons will apply. The bill stalled last year against White House plans to veto it. Congressman Rogers said this about privacy fears: "We're talking about exchanging packets of information, zeroes and ones, if you will, one hundred millions times a second. So some notion that this is a horrible invasion of content reading is wrong. It is not even close to that." Don't worry folks; it's just zeroes and ones.

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  1. Ca-ching! by Andrio · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey Mike Rogers and Dutch Ruppersberger, can I borrow a few bucks? Come on, I know you've 'run in' to some money recently! ;)

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    1. Re:Ca-ching! by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This also explains the recent wave of 'cyber-war' fear-mongering that's been going on.

  2. zeros and ones by kimvette · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "it's just zeroes and ones"

    okay, so if I start downloading MP3 and video files, the RIAA and MPAA will not object, because it's just zeroes and ones, right?

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    1. Re:zeros and ones by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "it's just zeroes and ones"

      If that's all it is, then why is he so concerned about these zeros and ones that he was convinced to submit this bill in the first place?

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  3. Billions of zeros and ones per second by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the government isn't going to be reading them, then I assume we can cease construction of the huge new NSA data center in Utah?

  4. Cost per/Legislation by MyNameIsJohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just for future reference... is there somewhere to get a price list on each piece of legislation. Just so we know how much they are spending every time we shoot something down (or forget to and it gets through)...

    In Canada here they do the same thing so it would really be nice to have this posted. Like a pricing spreadsheet, making sure it lists the price of each elected (and non-elected) publish official, and the legal processes.

    Just for reference...

  5. Tracking, Money, and Fighting Back by ohnocitizen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These bills are just going to keep coming back. We need to organize, and here are a few places to start:

    1. Track politicians. Get a sense of who, over time, is authoring, signing on, voting for, or otherwise supporting these bills. Companies develop advanced analytics by tracking consumer behavior, let's do the same by tracking politician behavior.
    2. Let's barge into the money game. By identifying and publicly shaming/boycotting involved companies (with a focus on attacking their brand), and raising money to support politicians who reliably stand against these kids of bills.
    3. Continuing to raise awareness. Internet outrage sparked the death of SOPA. We can keep doing it over and over. We can also start supporting primary opponents and general election opponents against politicians we've tracked and verified push these bills.

  6. I wish that Congresscritters... by rnturn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...or their staffs knew half as much about technology as the average teenager.

    Whoever wrote the bill knows exactly what the intent of all this monitoring and exchange of data is for. And those people did another masterful job of training these elected buffoons to spout crap like "it's only ones and zeros" to divert attention from that intent.

    Maybe someone should ask Rogers exactly what an alphabetic character looks like when it is transmitted across the internet. (My guess is that he doesn't care unless he's getting a campaign contribution as a reward for knowing that.)

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    1. Re:I wish that Congresscritters... by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whoever wrote the bill knows exactly what the intent of all this monitoring and exchange of data is for.

      Congress doesn't write the laws they actually pass, they may change the wording or an ammendment but by and large they come from staff or from lobbyists. In the case of CISPA I would have to think that some federal agency decided to push it forward, possibly the NSA? Anyway, I'd really be interested in understanding who actually wrote vs. sponsored this piece of crap.

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    2. Re:I wish that Congresscritters... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...or their staffs knew half as much about technology as the average teenager.

      Whoever wrote the bill knows exactly what the intent of all this monitoring and exchange of data is for. And those people did another masterful job of training these elected buffoons to spout crap like "it's only ones and zeros" to divert attention from that intent.

      Maybe someone should ask Rogers exactly what an alphabetic character looks like when it is transmitted across the internet. (My guess is that he doesn't care unless he's getting a campaign contribution as a reward for knowing that.)

      Or, we can ask Rogers where he stands on the Abortion debate. After all, all lifeforms are just made up of electrons, protons and neutrons.

      Draw parallels between this debate and something there'd be a political mess about if he made the same arguments, and you'll see things change quickly.

  7. This guy is a resume padder by Virtucon · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://mikerogers.house.gov/legislation/sponsoredbills.htm

    The only thing this guy has sponsored and has become law are re authorization of the Patriot Act and two Funding actions for National Intelligence.

    1. H.R.67 : To extend expiring provisions of the USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 and Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 until February 29, 2012.
    Sponsor: Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] (introduced 1/5/2011) Cosponsors (None)
    Committees: House Judiciary; House Intelligence (Permanent Select)
    Latest Major Action: 1/24/2011 Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
    Note: For further action, see H.R.514 , which became Public Law 112-3 on 2/25/2011.

    3. H.R.754 : Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2011
    Sponsor: Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] (introduced 2/17/2011) Cosponsors (None)
    Committees: House Intelligence (Permanent Select)
    House Reports: 112-72
    Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 112-18 [GPO: Text, PDF]

    7. H.R.1892 : Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012
    Sponsor: Rep Rogers, Mike J. [MI-8] (introduced 5/13/2011) Cosponsors (None)
    Committees: House Intelligence (Permanent Select)
    House Reports: 112-197
    Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 112-87 [GPO: Text, PDF]

    This guy is in bed with the NSA and the CIA, that's where the legislation came from. He thinks that spying on Americans is the best way to protect us from all those folks in the Middle East and China. I think he's a cross between J. Edgar Hoover and Jack Valenti. Also don't forget who's in charge of the MPAA now, good old Chris Dodd. The stench is all around on this one folks.

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  8. B.S. by 7-Vodka · · Score: 4, Informative

    The bill stalled last year against White House plans to veto it.

    Bull-Fucking-shit.
    You might recall a bill called the NDAA of 2012. The NDAA is passed every year to authorize funding of military action and this one was a real doozy because sneaked into this one was for the first time codified law that intends to allow the government to secretly and indefinitely detain anyone without ANY due process.

    Some real fucked up communist shit, the Stazi would be proud of.

    If you were paying attention you will also remember that the White House said for months it would veto this bill because of the indefinite detention sections. In the end, obama signed this piece of filth into law on new years eve, when Americans were more than nominally uncaring, unwatching and ignorant.

    Shocked? Well hold on to your panties because it also became apparent that the White House was secretly pressuring the authors of the bill to include the indefinite detention section and telling them in secret that they would veto the bill if it came to them without indefinite detention or if there was clarification that excluded it's application to Americans. The exact opposite of what they were telling the public.

    I warn you now. Do not put your faith in White House lies about using veto on authoritarian bills. They will sign them.

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